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As for SA having an easier knockout run this time:

They beat all three winners of the other Pools in consecutive weekends.

I buy the 2007 run was less challenging than some, but not this time.

Our perceptions of current Japan and Wales need to re-read somewhat I think.

Just because they didn't beat us (who lost to the losers of the final) doesn't mean they had it easy.

lol we d give the Japs a hiding. We smacked Wales around with ease. Have you been watching at all? Im all for giving the opposition credit where its due,but this is too far man. SA got lucky,we should of thrown the pool game if we knew how it was going to go.

We didn't play Japan. So we didn't get that option.

We lost a match that counted.

SA didn't.

Can I also suggest you stop being so patronising?

Share your opinion by all means. Even start a hashtag (#notmyworldchamps). But just because you have an opinion doesn't mean you're right.

So you are saying a test match and a good test victory against South Africa doesnt count? More reason to get rid of this current format in favour of something that makes all test matches and test caps meaningful again.

Just because we didnt play against Japan,that all of a sudden makes them good somehow? I have a fair idea what the historical results are vs Japan,they are easybeats.

Reeks of sour grapes to suggest getting rid of an entire format because we lost.

Well sorta maybe,but with a league style format based on home and away and point differential theres no guarantee that the ABs would win that either. Its much fairer though. It eliminates the vagaries of knock out tournaments and a more worthy winner based on performance over a longer period of time is found. It does away with northern hemisphere teams attempting to send weaker squads south so its a win for the paying public.

I don't disagree with a lot of that. Hence why I think having both would be good.

But knockout footy is what the World Cup is about. We've dealt with it for 32 years.

South Africa arent true world champions in my book,they are World cup winners. Theres a difference. In order to assess who the best team is,you would draw conclusions based over a longer period of time than a few weeks. A team could lose 50% of its games over the intervening 4 years between cups then make a run having an inferior draw or a biased ref. Nah thats not a champion.

First bold: Semantics. But correct.

Second bold: let's look at World Rankings then...

Rankings are all shite too,need i remind you Ireland and Wales were numero uno for periods of time leading into this cup and they certainly didnt live up to their rate. Its winning test match% and home and away that counts.

The Silver Fern

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