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@Bones said in Friday Caption Competition:

"Scott Robertson with Ardie Savea while Pasilio Tosi looks on."

……and that’s the end of that lame thread.

Wurzel

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2026:

@junior said in All Blacks 2026:

@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2026:

@antipodean said in All Blacks 2026:

@Cyclops said in All Blacks 2026:

It still feels like a massive longshot that he ever gets the gig again though.

Won't happen. His supposed strengths are the very reason he got booted. This wasn't a case of not having unfamiliar skills - it's a complete grotesque failure of the very thing he was supposed to be best at.

It really puts into perspective the success the Crusaders setup has had .

Know it's unfair, but I have this nagging feeling NZR were conned.

I can see that argument, but what explains his success at the Crusaders?

Surely the guys that played under him there - Whitelock, S Barrett, Taylor in particular - would not have stood for him if he was a genuine conman?

Not sticking up for Razor here - the guy is clearly an intellectual midget with an over-inflated ego and looking at his AB stint in isolation, it's clear there's a bit of the chancer about him - but I just don't see how a genuine conman gets away with it for 7 years.

The other possible reason is, current Super Rugby isn't that much of a challenging competition.

A valid observation. With that being the case is Jamie Jo our guy?

Dan54

@Jet said in All Blacks 2026:

@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:

I actually just remembered something that Goldie Wilson said on Breakdown. He hopes we go back to traditional All Black rugby, as we have drifted away from it.
Anyway, I just waiting to see who get's the gig now. I am a JJ fan, and had wanted him for sometime , just a feeling I have, no great knowledge or anything. And as much as anything , if he gets it who will he get in his group,

Is it fair to say Jamie Joseph was a bit of a grub as a player?

Remember a bit of biff from him against the English, not that I'll hold that against him.

Hell a bit of biff doesn't make you a grub mate. I never ever considered myself a grub, but had the odd friendly discussion on field without needing to use words. And never thought the fellas I needed to sort things out with were either, in fact the few times it did happen, I can recall always having a beer personally with them after game.
And certainly at top level if you were to call anyone a grub who gave someone a clip when things needed to be sorted , you would calling an awful lot of them that!

Bones

@DaGrubster yeah, another tough one. Ryan was very much a big part of the Razor "regime", so I'm inclined to think there's better options. Or was he just trying to keep his job?

taniwharugby

@DaGrubster yeah under Schmidt/Fozzie Ryan had our pack humming, but since Razor, the pack regressed, probably coincided with a SA pack on an upward trajectory too, so does it all comes back to the culture Razor has tried to instill affecting everything?

Guess it may come back player reviews on him as well, although have to think he was central to whatever 180 Razor did on DP, not to mention the well discussed rumours of issues with certain players, could he remain with minimal selection input?

DaGrubster

@sparky said in All Blacks 2026:

I'm not against Jason Ryan staying on as Tight Five coach as he has done a very solid there, but there needs to be a total clear out of the other coaches involved since 2024.

Virtually all aspects of the team went backwards in 2025.

Including the Forward pack.

However, i wonder how much weight we can out on individuals and performances give what has xome to light.

Ryan did a great job up to and including Rwc23 but the forwards had a poor year last year.

I guess it will depend on the new regime but he has proven himself at this level.

sparky

I'm not against Jason Ryan staying on as Tight Five coach as he has done a very solid there, but there needs to be a total clear out of the other coaches involved since 2024.

taniwharugby

@W32 this exact same thing, by all accounts this is probably more to do.with off field as it is performance and the bigger picture, selection, growth, development.

I see plenty of off shore pundits are looking at his win % and questioning the decision.

ploughboy

tony brown is in Cromwell for a legends golf tournament. Did a Q and A at function with Marty Banks and Ben Smith. I bet that any Robertson talk/coach setup was shut done

Bones

@W32 said in All Blacks 2026:

@Bones said in All Blacks 2026:

It's come off the back of the review, which has massive input from players. I'm not sure how that translates to "oh it must be because SA are top of the rankings".

The question was: would this have happened if the ABs were ranked #1 in the world ?

Would Horner still be at redbull if Max won the championship?

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