England vs Springboks
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Well, we’re going to have to front up, up front much better than we have done for the last 100 minutes of rugby. What to do in regard to the front row? I like Theo Dan’s play in the loose but it is hard to gauge his scrummaging. Maybe LCD to stay on the bench. I really think we need to move on from Dan Cole but where to go? Opoku-Fordjur maybe? I’m not convinced on Isiekwe and would ditch him for Ted Hill on the bench with Ben Curry to start at 7. That leaves Dombrandt on the bench but will Borthwick use him to good effect? Clue: No, he won’t.
Start Randall with JvP on the bench, leave Smith on if he is playing as well as he was in the last two games. Sleigthome in for Feyi-Waboso but what to do about the centres? Last week’s mix and match didn’t work defensively but we are short of options..
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England are rebuilding well. I expect them to start putting it together soon, and this game could be it. South Africa's aging heros are starting to look worn out and predictable. England to take it in a close one
@W32 said in England vs Springboks:
England are rebuilding well. I expect them to start putting it together soon, and this game could be it. South Africa's aging heros are starting to look worn out and predictable. England to take it in a close one
Awful attempt.
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@OomPB said in England vs Springboks:
@W32
Nick still hurts after losing to our A and B team at home.Not as painful as listening to Bok fans on Twitter.
I expected the Wallabies to lose.
I didn't expect quite the level of man-child idiocy I got out of some corners of social media, with dark green icons as their avatars. Most Bok fans are just happy to win, and remember it wasn't always this good.
Some are miserable fluffybunnies with a serious victim complex.
The worst of Bok fans today are easily the most ungracious winners since the angry edge crowd of millennial Kiwi fans in the McCaw era, who are in a dead heat with part time England fans under Eddie for second.
Pushing hard behind them all: bandwagon Aussies around the turn of the century.
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The game between these two sides at the world cup was the final straw in putting me off rugby for six months. Fuck it was dire.
Both sides have had some entertaining games this year, so hopefully better this time around. -
The game between these two sides at the world cup was the final straw in putting me off rugby for six months. Fuck it was dire.
Both sides have had some entertaining games this year, so hopefully better this time around.@reprobate said in England vs Springboks:
The game between these two sides at the world cup was the final straw in putting me off rugby for six months. Fuck it was dire.
Both sides have had some entertaining games this year, so hopefully better this time around.I would have thought that this was caused by the AB's going down to the bokke in a final for the second time, and the realisation that the bokke 4 world cups in 8 attempts make the AB's 3 cups in 10 attempts look ....pitiful....
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@reprobate said in England vs Springboks:
The game between these two sides at the world cup was the final straw in putting me off rugby for six months. Fuck it was dire.
Both sides have had some entertaining games this year, so hopefully better this time around.I would have thought that this was caused by the AB's going down to the bokke in a final for the second time, and the realisation that the bokke 4 world cups in 8 attempts make the AB's 3 cups in 10 attempts look ....pitiful....
@W32 said in England vs Springboks:
@reprobate said in England vs Springboks:
The game between these two sides at the world cup was the final straw in putting me off rugby for six months. Fuck it was dire.
Both sides have had some entertaining games this year, so hopefully better this time around.I would have thought that is was caused by the AB's going down to the bokke in a final for the second time, and the realisation that the bokke 4 world cups in 8 attempts make the AB's 3 cups in 10 attempts look ....pitiful....
Nah, I'm fine with all that. As you point out we've lost plenty of world cups before, none of which put me off watching the game.
Constant high kicks, neither side actually wanting the ball, penalty after penalty will do it though. That plus the shit card lottery in different games and the terrible reffing in a few games, I had just had enough. -
@W32 said in England vs Springboks:
@reprobate said in England vs Springboks:
The game between these two sides at the world cup was the final straw in putting me off rugby for six months. Fuck it was dire.
Both sides have had some entertaining games this year, so hopefully better this time around.I would have thought that is was caused by the AB's going down to the bokke in a final for the second time, and the realisation that the bokke 4 world cups in 8 attempts make the AB's 3 cups in 10 attempts look ....pitiful....
Nah, I'm fine with all that. As you point out we've lost plenty of world cups before, none of which put me off watching the game.
Constant high kicks, neither side actually wanting the ball, penalty after penalty will do it though. That plus the shit card lottery in different games and the terrible reffing in a few games, I had just had enough.@reprobate said in England vs Springboks:
@W32 said in England vs Springboks:
@reprobate said in England vs Springboks:
The game between these two sides at the world cup was the final straw in putting me off rugby for six months. Fuck it was dire.
Both sides have had some entertaining games this year, so hopefully better this time around.I would have thought that is was caused by the AB's going down to the bokke in a final for the second time, and the realisation that the bokke 4 world cups in 8 attempts make the AB's 3 cups in 10 attempts look ....pitiful....
Nah, I'm fine with all that. As you point out we've lost plenty of world cups before, none of which put me off watching the game.
Constant high kicks, neither side actually wanting the ball, penalty after penalty will do it though. That plus the shit card lottery in different games and the terrible reffing in a few games, I had just had enough.England played bloody well in that game. The bokke winning was pretty dramatic. I enjoyed it.
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@reprobate said in England vs Springboks:
@W32 said in England vs Springboks:
@reprobate said in England vs Springboks:
The game between these two sides at the world cup was the final straw in putting me off rugby for six months. Fuck it was dire.
Both sides have had some entertaining games this year, so hopefully better this time around.I would have thought that is was caused by the AB's going down to the bokke in a final for the second time, and the realisation that the bokke 4 world cups in 8 attempts make the AB's 3 cups in 10 attempts look ....pitiful....
Nah, I'm fine with all that. As you point out we've lost plenty of world cups before, none of which put me off watching the game.
Constant high kicks, neither side actually wanting the ball, penalty after penalty will do it though. That plus the shit card lottery in different games and the terrible reffing in a few games, I had just had enough.England played bloody well in that game. The bokke winning was pretty dramatic. I enjoyed it.
@W32 said in England vs Springboks:
@reprobate said in England vs Springboks:
@W32 said in England vs Springboks:
@reprobate said in England vs Springboks:
The game between these two sides at the world cup was the final straw in putting me off rugby for six months. Fuck it was dire.
Both sides have had some entertaining games this year, so hopefully better this time around.I would have thought that is was caused by the AB's going down to the bokke in a final for the second time, and the realisation that the bokke 4 world cups in 8 attempts make the AB's 3 cups in 10 attempts look ....pitiful....
Nah, I'm fine with all that. As you point out we've lost plenty of world cups before, none of which put me off watching the game.
Constant high kicks, neither side actually wanting the ball, penalty after penalty will do it though. That plus the shit card lottery in different games and the terrible reffing in a few games, I had just had enough.England played bloody well in that game. The bokke winning was pretty dramatic. I enjoyed it.
It was dramatic, but that was all it had going for it. The poms were probably happy to get unexpectedly close, you guys obviously happy to win - but as a neutral the rugby was fucking dire.
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@OomPB said in England vs Springboks:
@W32
Nick still hurts after losing to our A and B team at home.Not as painful as listening to Bok fans on Twitter.
I expected the Wallabies to lose.
I didn't expect quite the level of man-child idiocy I got out of some corners of social media, with dark green icons as their avatars. Most Bok fans are just happy to win, and remember it wasn't always this good.
Some are miserable fluffybunnies with a serious victim complex.
The worst of Bok fans today are easily the most ungracious winners since the angry edge crowd of millennial Kiwi fans in the McCaw era, who are in a dead heat with part time England fans under Eddie for second.
Pushing hard behind them all: bandwagon Aussies around the turn of the century.
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@NTA all countries have them Boet. You don't want me to start on the Aussies over in your house. Real rugby supporters respect the opposition and understand winning and losing.
@OomPB said in England vs Springboks:
Real rugby supporters respect the opposition and understand winning and losing
so there are no real rugby supporters from South Africa?
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@W32 said in England vs Springboks:
@reprobate said in England vs Springboks:
@W32 said in England vs Springboks:
@reprobate said in England vs Springboks:
The game between these two sides at the world cup was the final straw in putting me off rugby for six months. Fuck it was dire.
Both sides have had some entertaining games this year, so hopefully better this time around.I would have thought that is was caused by the AB's going down to the bokke in a final for the second time, and the realisation that the bokke 4 world cups in 8 attempts make the AB's 3 cups in 10 attempts look ....pitiful....
Nah, I'm fine with all that. As you point out we've lost plenty of world cups before, none of which put me off watching the game.
Constant high kicks, neither side actually wanting the ball, penalty after penalty will do it though. That plus the shit card lottery in different games and the terrible reffing in a few games, I had just had enough.England played bloody well in that game. The bokke winning was pretty dramatic. I enjoyed it.
It was dramatic, but that was all it had going for it. The poms were probably happy to get unexpectedly close, you guys obviously happy to win - but as a neutral the rugby was fucking dire.
@reprobate said in England vs Springboks:
@W32 said in England vs Springboks:
@reprobate said in England vs Springboks:
@W32 said in England vs Springboks:
@reprobate said in England vs Springboks:
The game between these two sides at the world cup was the final straw in putting me off rugby for six months. Fuck it was dire.
Both sides have had some entertaining games this year, so hopefully better this time around.I would have thought that is was caused by the AB's going down to the bokke in a final for the second time, and the realisation that the bokke 4 world cups in 8 attempts make the AB's 3 cups in 10 attempts look ....pitiful....
Nah, I'm fine with all that. As you point out we've lost plenty of world cups before, none of which put me off watching the game.
Constant high kicks, neither side actually wanting the ball, penalty after penalty will do it though. That plus the shit card lottery in different games and the terrible reffing in a few games, I had just had enough.England played bloody well in that game. The bokke winning was pretty dramatic. I enjoyed it.
It was dramatic, but that was all it had going for it. The poms were probably happy to get unexpectedly close, you guys obviously happy to win - but as a neutral the rugby was fucking dire.
I was at both semis
England v SA was immeasurably better IMHO
