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Ireland v Argentina

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  • FrankF Offline
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    Puts our win in perspective all of a sudden doesn't it.

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    • FrankF Frank

      Puts our win in perspective all of a sudden doesn't it.

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      @Frank said in Ireland v Argentina:

      Puts our win in perspective all of a sudden doesn't it.

      You guys are building back nicely.

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      • FrankF Frank

        Puts our win in perspective all of a sudden doesn't it.

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        @Frank how so?

        Are you saying Ireland are still really good to beat a team that beat us at home or really bad that they just scraped past Argentina?

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          I enjoyed this game, but, the NH seem to take glee in cards being handed out. I don't understand it.

          @Bones He's no longer in charge is he? Plus, I'd put his overexcited-ness down to him being Oz rather than Lebo.

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            Ref hatcheted Argentina, particularly in the final drive. Repeated green infringements.

            Im getting sick of how normalised players getting carded is though....Rugby is a bit shit these days isnt it.

            Im fed up of listening to refs and TMO's talk to each other.

            Its fucking insufferable.

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              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                @Frank how so?

                Are you saying Ireland are still really good to beat a team that beat us at home or really bad that they just scraped past Argentina?

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                @taniwharugby said in Ireland v Argentina:

                @Frank how so?

                Are you saying Ireland are still really good to beat a team that beat us at home or really bad that they just scraped past Argentina?

                I am saying Ireland are in decline and the team we beat was not nearly as good as a year back.

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                • FrankF Frank

                  @taniwharugby said in Ireland v Argentina:

                  @Frank how so?

                  Are you saying Ireland are still really good to beat a team that beat us at home or really bad that they just scraped past Argentina?

                  I am saying Ireland are in decline and the team we beat was not nearly as good as a year back.

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                  @Frank you could say the same about us not being as good as we were then either, but that we are more likely on an incline....

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                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                    @Frank you could say the same about us not being as good as we were then either, but that we are more likely on an incline....

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                    @taniwharugby said in Ireland v Argentina:

                    @Frank you could say the same about us not being as good as we were then either, but that we are more likely on an incline....

                    Sure, we seem to be improving, but that win should be put into perspective now we have seen them almost losing to Argentina at home. They look rudderless.

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                    • FrankF Frank

                      @taniwharugby said in Ireland v Argentina:

                      @Frank how so?

                      Are you saying Ireland are still really good to beat a team that beat us at home or really bad that they just scraped past Argentina?

                      I am saying Ireland are in decline and the team we beat was not nearly as good as a year back.

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                      #69

                      @Frank said in Ireland v Argentina:

                      @taniwharugby said in Ireland v Argentina:

                      @Frank how so?

                      Are you saying Ireland are still really good to beat a team that beat us at home or really bad that they just scraped past Argentina?

                      I am saying Ireland are in decline and the team we beat was not nearly as good as a year back.

                      They definitely appear poorer without the players who retired after the RWC. They will try to rebuild

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                        Worth remembering that Argentina also beat the Boks this year. They are quite good when they get their shit together. There really isn't much between the top sides, so that is about the only perspective that I'm getting out of it. Doesn't really change my view of our win at all.

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                          I'm 65 minutes in.

                          Argie scrum halves are killing them.

                          Starting guy is step passing.
                          Replacement throwing loops.

                          I hope team management withheld asado rights post-match for both of them

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                          • JetJ Jet

                            Ref hatcheted Argentina, particularly in the final drive. Repeated green infringements.

                            Im getting sick of how normalised players getting carded is though....Rugby is a bit shit these days isnt it.

                            Im fed up of listening to refs and TMO's talk to each other.

                            Its fucking insufferable.

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                            MiketheSnow
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                            @Jet said in Ireland v Argentina:

                            Ref hatcheted Argentina, particularly in the final drive. Repeated green infringements.

                            Im getting sick of how normalised players getting carded is though....Rugby is a bit shit these days isnt it.

                            Im fed up of listening to refs and TMO's talk to each other.

                            Its fucking insufferable.

                            Slowly but surely we’re seeing more and more censure for human ‘Exocet missiles’ entering the ruck with abandon

                            That is a train I can get on board with

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                              Also: Porter is still a crap loosehead at Test level

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                              • canefanC canefan

                                @Frank said in Ireland v Argentina:

                                @taniwharugby said in Ireland v Argentina:

                                @Frank how so?

                                Are you saying Ireland are still really good to beat a team that beat us at home or really bad that they just scraped past Argentina?

                                I am saying Ireland are in decline and the team we beat was not nearly as good as a year back.

                                They definitely appear poorer without the players who retired after the RWC. They will try to rebuild

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                                @canefan said in Ireland v Argentina:

                                @Frank said in Ireland v Argentina:

                                @taniwharugby said in Ireland v Argentina:

                                @Frank how so?

                                Are you saying Ireland are still really good to beat a team that beat us at home or really bad that they just scraped past Argentina?

                                I am saying Ireland are in decline and the team we beat was not nearly as good as a year back.

                                They definitely appear poorer without the players who retired after the RWC. They will try to rebuild

                                Can they get more birthright players to bolster their squad?

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                                • NepiaN Nepia

                                  I enjoyed this game, but, the NH seem to take glee in cards being handed out. I don't understand it.

                                  @Bones He's no longer in charge is he? Plus, I'd put his overexcited-ness down to him being Oz rather than Lebo.

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                                  Bones
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                                  #75

                                  @Nepia said in Ireland v Argentina:

                                  He's no longer in charge is he?

                                  Probably not but that doesn't sound as good.

                                  Plus, I'd put his overexcited-ness down to him being Oz rather than Lebo.

                                  You're a generous man.

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                                  • SnowyS Snowy

                                    Worth remembering that Argentina also beat the Boks this year. They are quite good when they get their shit together. There really isn't much between the top sides, so that is about the only perspective that I'm getting out of it. Doesn't really change my view of our win at all.

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                                    @Snowy said in Ireland v Argentina:

                                    Worth remembering that Argentina also beat the Boks this year. They are quite good when they get their shit together. There really isn't much between the top sides, so that is about the only perspective that I'm getting out of it. Doesn't really change my view of our win at all.

                                    Yep - and Ireland also beat the Boks, in SA this year.

                                    As results go on, there's starting to be a bit of clarity, but it can all change quickly

                                    It's all a bit like panning for gold right now - got to wait for the end of the year to see quite what's there at the end.

                                    Be nice if we don't slosh half our gold over the edge of the pan tomorrow morning! 🙂

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                                      Enjoyed that. Williams reffed well. Irish TH lucky, as Tupaea knows that can end in a busted knee. Ireland looked a bit short if ideas on attack and their discipline vanished in the 2nd 40 but Argentina let themselves down too.

                                      I watched on German tv. Their expert during the week (if I understood correctly) is a blues super rugby player. That’s right anton segner.

                                      Ireland have problems: ageing veterans and the new breed not overly convincing.

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                                      • SnowyS Snowy

                                        Worth remembering that Argentina also beat the Boks this year. They are quite good when they get their shit together. There really isn't much between the top sides, so that is about the only perspective that I'm getting out of it. Doesn't really change my view of our win at all.

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                                        @Snowy said in Ireland v Argentina:

                                        Worth remembering that Argentina also beat the Boks this year. They are quite good when they get their shit together.

                                        That's what I love about the Argies, they play with real ambition. They aren't quite good enough to pull it off regularly so fuck it up a lot, and their discipline is shithouse - but when it comes together for 80 minutes they are very, very hard to play against. They are what France used to be.

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                                        • FrankF Frank

                                          Puts our win in perspective all of a sudden doesn't it.

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                                          @Frank said in Ireland v Argentina:

                                          Puts our win in perspective all of a sudden doesn't it.

                                          We were comfortable in the end against Ireland without being at our best.

                                          But it seems that Ireland will now need to replace a number of players and usher in a new side.

                                          Who is going to do it though? Farrell is on sabbatical for a year

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