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Chiefs v Brumbies

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    Mattasaurus
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    Best game I've watched for a some time.

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        Is Jacomb looking AB level ? (asking keenly hoping for a Beauden Barret replacement)

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        • BonesB Bones

          That's karma for every fucking bullshit pass that went to hand.

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          @Bones said in Chiefs v Brumbies:

          That's karma for every fucking bullshit pass that went to hand.

          Which team are we talking about?

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            Dissenters will say Super Rugby has no defence, but how the fuck do you defend against some of this stuff?

            Both sides running out of numbers just through fast ball movement.

            The Northern Hemisphere mind cannot comprehend such attack.

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            • FrankF Frank

              Is Jacomb looking AB level ? (asking keenly hoping for a Beauden Barret replacement)

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              @Frank said in Chiefs v Brumbies:

              Is Jacomb looking AB level ? (he asking keenly hoping for a Beauden Barret replacement)

              Not yet. Godfrey looking better.

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                @Bones said in Chiefs v Brumbies:

                That's karma for every fucking bullshit pass that went to hand.

                Which team are we talking about?

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                @NTA said in Chiefs v Brumbies:

                @Bones said in Chiefs v Brumbies:

                That's karma for every fucking bullshit pass that went to hand.

                Which team are we talking about?

                Not the waratahs anyway.

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                  @Frank said in Chiefs v Brumbies:

                  Is Jacomb looking AB level ? (he asking keenly hoping for a Beauden Barret replacement)

                  Not yet. Godfrey looking better.

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                  @Bones said in Chiefs v Brumbies:

                  @Frank said in Chiefs v Brumbies:

                  Is Jacomb looking AB level ? (he asking keenly hoping for a Beauden Barret replacement)

                  Not yet. Godfrey looking better.

                  Godfrey looks like the kid who always had to play with bigger kids and learned to be a tough little fluffybunny doing it.

                  Good to watch.

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                  • D Darren

                    Brumbies just keep seeming to have an extra man out wide. Seems Chiefs having a hard time numbering up.
                    Anyone know why Lord had to go off in the first few min?

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                    @Darren said in Chiefs v Brumbies:

                    Brumbies just keep seeming to have an extra man out wide. Seems Chiefs having a hard time numbering up.

                    Just watched the game and this was quite noticeable. The Brumbies are, at times, using double backdoor pods in attack, which can create easy overlaps in the backline. It's a system used by quite a few teams. Taranaki, through their attack coach Brad Cooper, have used it to good effect. He also employed it with the NZ U20s last season.

                    You can recognize it pretty easily when you see attack lining up in a so-called "stack formation", creating extra options out wide.

                    abb1dd2e-6bd8-49d9-8303-ab4617f737ac-brumbies_stack.jpg
                    Example from game against Drua

                    Typical is that the wings come in-field to act as extra passing options, in order to outnumber the defence.

                    I suppose what is surprising to me is that it took the Chiefs so long to find defensive solutions for it. What you want to do against this attack is launch defenders into those backdoor options. When the Chiefs finally started doing that - in the 80th minute - ALB scored that turnover try.

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                    • MaussM Mauss

                      @Darren said in Chiefs v Brumbies:

                      Brumbies just keep seeming to have an extra man out wide. Seems Chiefs having a hard time numbering up.

                      Just watched the game and this was quite noticeable. The Brumbies are, at times, using double backdoor pods in attack, which can create easy overlaps in the backline. It's a system used by quite a few teams. Taranaki, through their attack coach Brad Cooper, have used it to good effect. He also employed it with the NZ U20s last season.

                      You can recognize it pretty easily when you see attack lining up in a so-called "stack formation", creating extra options out wide.

                      abb1dd2e-6bd8-49d9-8303-ab4617f737ac-brumbies_stack.jpg
                      Example from game against Drua

                      Typical is that the wings come in-field to act as extra passing options, in order to outnumber the defence.

                      I suppose what is surprising to me is that it took the Chiefs so long to find defensive solutions for it. What you want to do against this attack is launch defenders into those backdoor options. When the Chiefs finally started doing that - in the 80th minute - ALB scored that turnover try.

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                      @Mauss chiefs weren't helped by Mataele being an atrocious decision maker on defence.

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                      • MaussM Mauss

                        @Darren said in Chiefs v Brumbies:

                        Brumbies just keep seeming to have an extra man out wide. Seems Chiefs having a hard time numbering up.

                        Just watched the game and this was quite noticeable. The Brumbies are, at times, using double backdoor pods in attack, which can create easy overlaps in the backline. It's a system used by quite a few teams. Taranaki, through their attack coach Brad Cooper, have used it to good effect. He also employed it with the NZ U20s last season.

                        You can recognize it pretty easily when you see attack lining up in a so-called "stack formation", creating extra options out wide.

                        abb1dd2e-6bd8-49d9-8303-ab4617f737ac-brumbies_stack.jpg
                        Example from game against Drua

                        Typical is that the wings come in-field to act as extra passing options, in order to outnumber the defence.

                        I suppose what is surprising to me is that it took the Chiefs so long to find defensive solutions for it. What you want to do against this attack is launch defenders into those backdoor options. When the Chiefs finally started doing that - in the 80th minute - ALB scored that turnover try.

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                        antipodean
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                        @Mauss exactly - flood their options channels and they either have to keep the ball, or inevitably make a blind pass you can intercept.

                        The benefit then is they're horribly compromised in defence. Extremely difficult to transition, but the Brumbies benefit from having genuine pace in their back three.

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                        • antipodeanA antipodean

                          @Mauss exactly - flood their options channels and they either have to keep the ball, or inevitably make a blind pass you can intercept.

                          The benefit then is they're horribly compromised in defence. Extremely difficult to transition, but the Brumbies benefit from having genuine pace in their back three.

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                          @antipodean said in Chiefs v Brumbies:

                          exactly - flood their options channels and they either have to keep the ball, or inevitably make a blind pass you can intercept.

                          The benefit then is they're horribly compromised in defence. Extremely difficult to transition, but the Brumbies benefit from having genuine pace in their back three.

                          It does look like the Brumbies have good scramble defence, with their quick back three like you say, as well as a quick loose forward trio, with players like Reimer, Scott and Cale. Even when the Chiefs broke the line, the Brumbies were able to reorganize pretty well. It's more their defensive structure which seems to be causing issues.

                          They're also using the double backdoor pods selectively, mostly from set-piece situations or turnover ball. So their attack has looked pretty good but their defence has lost them a few games already.

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                          • A akan004

                            Aussie teams are no longer the easybeats they once were.

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                            @akan004 said in Chiefs v Brumbies:

                            Aussie teams are no longer the easybeats they once were.

                            About time too

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                              Mr Fish
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                              The Brumbies have always been the standard for Australia. They've been their top-ranked side in cross- Ta$man competitions since 2021. So they're not really the litmus test for Australian strength...

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                              • Mr FishM Mr Fish

                                The Brumbies have always been the standard for Australia. They've been their top-ranked side in cross- Ta$man competitions since 2021. So they're not really the litmus test for Australian strength...

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                                @Mr-Fish said in Chiefs v Brumbies:

                                The Brumbies have always been the standard for Australia. They've been their top-ranked side in cross- Ta$man competitions since 2021. So they're not really the litmus test for Australian strength...

                                Good point but it looks as though they might be 3rd best Aussie team this year

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                                • FrankF Frank

                                  Is Jacomb looking AB level ? (asking keenly hoping for a Beauden Barret replacement)

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                                  @Frank said in Chiefs v Brumbies:

                                  Is Jacomb looking AB level ? (asking keenly hoping for a Beauden Barret replacement)

                                  Well I think he is. But I also been on his wagon all last year , saying he next long term AB 10 , so I probably biased. I also think Godfrey from Canes is looking not bad.
                                  Though I am a Naki man and a long time Canes supporter, so possibly have to take that into consideration .

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                                    @Frank said in Chiefs v Brumbies:

                                    Is Jacomb looking AB level ? (asking keenly hoping for a Beauden Barret replacement)

                                    Well I think he is. But I also been on his wagon all last year , saying he next long term AB 10 , so I probably biased. I also think Godfrey from Canes is looking not bad.
                                    Though I am a Naki man and a long time Canes supporter, so possibly have to take that into consideration .

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                                    @Dan54 said in Chiefs v Brumbies:

                                    I am

                                    There he is.

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                                      Any word on DMac's health?

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                                      • gt12G gt12

                                        Mataele is a terrible signing for us.

                                        Our defense looks trash out wide.

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                                        @gt12 said in Chiefs v Brumbies:

                                        Mataele is a terrible signing for us.

                                        The slowest Fijian winger I've seen live. He's only a WTG player and shouldn't be near the 23 once everyone is fit.

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                                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                          Breakdowns are a mess...off feet, playing ball on deck

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                                          @taniwharugby said in Chiefs v Brumbies:

                                          Breakdowns are a mess...off feet, playing ball on deck

                                          That's what you get with Doleman. Anything goes, until it doesn't.

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