Legs of steel
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Pfft - bringing your knee joint lower than 90 degrees generally provides no further benefit than getting to 90 - ask any weights dude when squats are happening.
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all it does it increase chances of injury, by extending your knee cap past some point or other, and thus reducing stability. So the extra 'gain' you get from going past 90, is not worth the exta chance of injury that you may sustain from going to deep...
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Re-reading the shite from BD, the idea does come to mind that any benefit he might have seen would have been considerably bettered by spending the same amount of time on an ergometer... <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':D' />
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Sprints and bodyweight squats do it for me.<br />
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I used to be heavily into lifting--at one point I was squatting 410 pounds for sets of 8.<br />
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These days the spine has had enough of heavy weights.<br />
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But sprinting is amazingly good at building leg strength, and at least as hard as a heavy squatting session if done properly. -
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Sprints and [b]bodyweight squats[/b] do it for me.<br />
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I used to be heavily into lifting--at one point I was squatting 410 pounds for sets of 8.<br />
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These days the spine has had enough of heavy weights.<br />
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But sprinting is amazingly good at building leg strength, and at least as hard as a heavy squatting session if done properly.<br />
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<img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':D' /> ahhhhhhhhhh..... the pleasure of knowing I'm sometimes right. Come on lads, give it a crack, eh? -
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<img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':D' /> ahhhhhhhhhh..... the pleasure of knowing I'm sometimes right. Come on lads, give it a crack, eh?<br />
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Read his post again, he does your exercise as his back is stuffed. -
[quote name='Kirwan']<br />
Read his post again, he does your exercise as his back is stuffed.<br />
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You are right Kirwan. But at this stage I'm starting to wonder if heavy lifting is good at all. Granted, I was (and still am) very strong in all lifts--squats, bench presses, deadlifts, etc. But I don't think the injuries are worth it anymore. The last one, which I'm just now recovering from after at least 2 months of extreme pain, was a severe herniation in one of my discs, plus two other bulging discs in my spine.<br />
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I've been doing alot of reading and studying on exercise physiology, and have come to the conclusion that bodyweight training is pretty good for overall fitness, and a lot safer than lifting. And I've found a number of "boot camp" style routines that would make even well-conditioned athletes cry.<br />
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Combine this with jogging and intensive sprinting, and you've got a workout at least as good, if not better, than anything you can do in the gym.<br />
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I've been training hard all my life, and these days I am more interested in functional fitness (real strength and power), than "gym fitness". You see alot of "tit queens" in gyms--guys who are really good at certain lifts, so that's all they do. Take them out onto the field, have them do a very intensive military-style training session, and they crumble like rice paper. -
If I was going to do it I would have to weigh up the time it would take to 500 reps as opposed to what 20/30?<br />
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Also, if you don't rest (he says do that every day) your muscles don't grow, all pretty basic stuff that Blackdragon seems to have missed.<br />
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Anybody else think he weighs 70kgs soaking wet, and has a ponytail? -
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If I was going to do it I would have to weigh up the time it would take to 500 reps as opposed to what 20/30?<br />
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Also, if you don't rest (he says do that every day) your muscles don't grow, all pretty basic stuff that Blackdragon seems to have missed.<br />
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Anybody else think he weighs 70kgs soaking wet, and has a ponytail?<br />
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Agreed. Overtraining leads to injury. If you're training more than 5 days a week, you can't be training that hard. There's an old saying that is absolutely true: you can either train hard or often, but you can't do both.<br />
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And for really ball breaking work like "boot camp" style workouts, I recommend 3 very hard training days and maybe 1 light day. Aerobics should include roadwork (jogging) and something more intense like sprints or rope skipping.<br />
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With this kind of training, you just can't do more than 4 sessions a week. Otherwise your body will be fucked, and you will get hurt. Trust me. I've tried everything you can imagine.
