Final - Crusaders v Chiefs
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@KiwiMurph yoinking this one thanks
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https://www.theroar.com.au/2025/06/18/why-i-couldnt-care-less-about-the-super-rugby-final/
Absolute dribble from someone who admits not enjoying super rugby in the first place in the article lmfao
@Yeetyaah said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
https://www.theroar.com.au/2025/06/18/why-i-couldnt-care-less-about-the-super-rugby-final/
Absolute dribble from someone who admits not enjoying super rugby in the first place in the article lmfao
The Roar trying to steal Reddit's user base. A food journalist writing in the rugby section why he doesn't care (clearly enough to tell everyone). Although it does have some worth in capturing the fickle nature of the whiners who follow teams, not sports.
Surely none of these "experts" get remunerated for this shite?
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For the sake of NZ rugby and the ABs, I hope the Chiefs beat the Crusaders well. I don't know what the fuss is about with Ethan. I watched him closely for passages of the game last weekend. He's almost always late to the breakdown, and when he gets there he flops onto the ruck and maybe gives it a push if at all. But I wouldn't say he seems to hit the rucks with any sort of ferocity. He's shit at carrying, doesn't have a passing game, and isn't really a dominant tackler (just ask Caleb). I must be missing something. But if I'm not, I hope he and the rest of the pack are exposed by the Chiefs
@canefan said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
For the sake of NZ rugby and the ABs, I hope the Chiefs beat the Crusaders well. I don't know what the fuss is about with Ethan. I watched him closely for passages of the game last weekend. He's almost always late to the breakdown, and when he gets there he flops onto the ruck and maybe gives it a push if at all. But I wouldn't say he seems to hit the rucks with any sort of ferocity. He's shit at carrying, doesn't have a passing game, and isn't really a dominant tackler (just ask Caleb). I must be missing something. But if I'm not, I hope he and the rest of the pack are exposed by the Chiefs
I hope he has a bad game (which he hasn’t this season, in fact he has been the complete opposite) and is then named on the 23rd.
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I am in two minds over who I would like to see win. On one hand, being a Saders supporter it would be nice, even funny, to see them win this year. A team with maligned players and a maligned coach coming out on top. What's not funny about that?
But on the other hand, the ABs come first for me and it's time now for the Chiefs who are hoping play a big part with the ABs this year to show they are better. And that's a fair chunk of the team. I will be worried for the ABs if they don't.
@Crazy-Horse said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
. I will be worried for the ABs if they don't.
So how the rest of us felt last year when a truck load of the failing Cantabs were selected in the ABs?
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Williams back for the final and Springer on the wing are the only changes I am hearing from the Blues game.
Some doubt over Newell he may also not pull up fit.@Chris said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
Williams back for the final and Springer on the wing are the only changes I am hearing from the Blues game.
Some doubt over Newell he may also not pull up fit.Good news!
Expected news - but, I would have thought long and hard about McNicholl instead (or maybe even McLeod). Get into it Macca!
Was it Waisake Naholo who got some sort of miracle cure before a test with some Fijian leaves? Get some of those leaves Fletch - your team needs you - quite badly!
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@Chris said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
Williams back for the final and Springer on the wing are the only changes I am hearing from the Blues game.
Some doubt over Newell he may also not pull up fit.Good news!
Expected news - but, I would have thought long and hard about McNicholl instead (or maybe even McLeod). Get into it Macca!
Was it Waisake Naholo who got some sort of miracle cure before a test with some Fijian leaves? Get some of those leaves Fletch - your team needs you - quite badly!
@Chris-B said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Chris said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
Williams back for the final and Springer on the wing are the only changes I am hearing from the Blues game.
Some doubt over Newell he may also not pull up fit.Good news!
Expected news - but, I would have thought long and hard about McNicholl instead (or maybe even McLeod). Get into it Macca!
Was it Waisake Naholo who got some sort of miracle cure before a test with some Fijian leaves? Get some of those leaves Fletch - your team needs you - quite badly!
Sam Matenga has been training in the 23 so if Fletch is out I expect Sam will be on the bench.
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@canefan said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
For the sake of NZ rugby and the ABs, I hope the Chiefs beat the Crusaders well. I don't know what the fuss is about with Ethan. I watched him closely for passages of the game last weekend. He's almost always late to the breakdown, and when he gets there he flops onto the ruck and maybe gives it a push if at all. But I wouldn't say he seems to hit the rucks with any sort of ferocity. He's shit at carrying, doesn't have a passing game, and isn't really a dominant tackler (just ask Caleb). I must be missing something. But if I'm not, I hope he and the rest of the pack are exposed by the Chiefs
I hope he has a bad game (which he hasn’t this season, in fact he has been the complete opposite) and is then named on the 23rd.
@ACT-Crusader said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@canefan said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
For the sake of NZ rugby and the ABs, I hope the Chiefs beat the Crusaders well. I don't know what the fuss is about with Ethan. I watched him closely for passages of the game last weekend. He's almost always late to the breakdown, and when he gets there he flops onto the ruck and maybe gives it a push if at all. But I wouldn't say he seems to hit the rucks with any sort of ferocity. He's shit at carrying, doesn't have a passing game, and isn't really a dominant tackler (just ask Caleb). I must be missing something. But if I'm not, I hope he and the rest of the pack are exposed by the Chiefs
I hope he has a bad game (which he hasn’t this season, in fact he has been the complete opposite) and is then named on the 23rd.
But have you been watching him closely like others do?
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@Chris-B said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Chris said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
Williams back for the final and Springer on the wing are the only changes I am hearing from the Blues game.
Some doubt over Newell he may also not pull up fit.Good news!
Expected news - but, I would have thought long and hard about McNicholl instead (or maybe even McLeod). Get into it Macca!
Was it Waisake Naholo who got some sort of miracle cure before a test with some Fijian leaves? Get some of those leaves Fletch - your team needs you - quite badly!
Sam Matenga has been training in the 23 so if Fletch is out I expect Sam will be on the bench.
@Chris said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Chris-B said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Chris said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
Williams back for the final and Springer on the wing are the only changes I am hearing from the Blues game.
Some doubt over Newell he may also not pull up fit.Good news!
Expected news - but, I would have thought long and hard about McNicholl instead (or maybe even McLeod). Get into it Macca!
Was it Waisake Naholo who got some sort of miracle cure before a test with some Fijian leaves? Get some of those leaves Fletch - your team needs you - quite badly!
Sam Matenga has been training in the 23 so if Fletch is out I expect Sam will be on the bench.
Tamaiti to go close to 80mins at tighthead you’d think if Newell doesn’t go… scary thought coming off the knee injury. Crusaders will be hoping and praying Newell is fit to go.
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@Chris said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Chris-B said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Chris said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
Williams back for the final and Springer on the wing are the only changes I am hearing from the Blues game.
Some doubt over Newell he may also not pull up fit.Good news!
Expected news - but, I would have thought long and hard about McNicholl instead (or maybe even McLeod). Get into it Macca!
Was it Waisake Naholo who got some sort of miracle cure before a test with some Fijian leaves? Get some of those leaves Fletch - your team needs you - quite badly!
Sam Matenga has been training in the 23 so if Fletch is out I expect Sam will be on the bench.
Tamaiti to go close to 80mins at tighthead you’d think if Newell doesn’t go… scary thought coming off the knee injury. Crusaders will be hoping and praying Newell is fit to go.
@Landers92 said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Chris said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Chris-B said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Chris said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
Williams back for the final and Springer on the wing are the only changes I am hearing from the Blues game.
Some doubt over Newell he may also not pull up fit.Good news!
Expected news - but, I would have thought long and hard about McNicholl instead (or maybe even McLeod). Get into it Macca!
Was it Waisake Naholo who got some sort of miracle cure before a test with some Fijian leaves? Get some of those leaves Fletch - your team needs you - quite badly!
Sam Matenga has been training in the 23 so if Fletch is out I expect Sam will be on the bench.
Tamaiti to go close to 80mins at tighthead you’d think if Newell doesn’t go… scary thought coming off the knee injury. Crusaders will be hoping and praying Newell is fit to go.
Yeah I think so although Bower has trained at TH and Williams at LH.Maybe they start Bower at TH.
I heard it was a bang on Tamaiti's knee and not ligament damage I am not sure if that's 100% correct or they are playing down the injury. -
@Chris-B said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Chris said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
Williams back for the final and Springer on the wing are the only changes I am hearing from the Blues game.
Some doubt over Newell he may also not pull up fit.Good news!
Expected news - but, I would have thought long and hard about McNicholl instead (or maybe even McLeod). Get into it Macca!
Was it Waisake Naholo who got some sort of miracle cure before a test with some Fijian leaves? Get some of those leaves Fletch - your team needs you - quite badly!
Sam Matenga has been training in the 23 so if Fletch is out I expect Sam will be on the bench.
@Chris said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Chris-B said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Chris said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
Williams back for the final and Springer on the wing are the only changes I am hearing from the Blues game.
Some doubt over Newell he may also not pull up fit.Good news!
Expected news - but, I would have thought long and hard about McNicholl instead (or maybe even McLeod). Get into it Macca!
Was it Waisake Naholo who got some sort of miracle cure before a test with some Fijian leaves? Get some of those leaves Fletch - your team needs you - quite badly!
Sam Matenga has been training in the 23 so if Fletch is out I expect Sam will be on the bench.
That would be quite a loss.
Matenga promoted ahead of presumably Calder? Is he also injured?
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@Chris said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Chris-B said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Chris said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
Williams back for the final and Springer on the wing are the only changes I am hearing from the Blues game.
Some doubt over Newell he may also not pull up fit.Good news!
Expected news - but, I would have thought long and hard about McNicholl instead (or maybe even McLeod). Get into it Macca!
Was it Waisake Naholo who got some sort of miracle cure before a test with some Fijian leaves? Get some of those leaves Fletch - your team needs you - quite badly!
Sam Matenga has been training in the 23 so if Fletch is out I expect Sam will be on the bench.
That would be quite a loss.
Matenga promoted ahead of presumably Calder? Is he also injured?
@Chris-B said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Chris said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Chris-B said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Chris said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
Williams back for the final and Springer on the wing are the only changes I am hearing from the Blues game.
Some doubt over Newell he may also not pull up fit.Good news!
Expected news - but, I would have thought long and hard about McNicholl instead (or maybe even McLeod). Get into it Macca!
Was it Waisake Naholo who got some sort of miracle cure before a test with some Fijian leaves? Get some of those leaves Fletch - your team needs you - quite badly!
Sam Matenga has been training in the 23 so if Fletch is out I expect Sam will be on the bench.
That would be quite a loss.
Matenga promoted ahead of presumably Calder? Is he also injured?
Not that I have heard about an injury.
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@canefan said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
For the sake of NZ rugby and the ABs, I hope the Chiefs beat the Crusaders well. I don't know what the fuss is about with Ethan. I watched him closely for passages of the game last weekend. He's almost always late to the breakdown, and when he gets there he flops onto the ruck and maybe gives it a push if at all. But I wouldn't say he seems to hit the rucks with any sort of ferocity. He's shit at carrying, doesn't have a passing game, and isn't really a dominant tackler (just ask Caleb). I must be missing something. But if I'm not, I hope he and the rest of the pack are exposed by the Chiefs
I hope he has a bad game (which he hasn’t this season, in fact he has been the complete opposite) and is then named on the 23rd.
@ACT-Crusader said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@canefan said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
For the sake of NZ rugby and the ABs, I hope the Chiefs beat the Crusaders well. I don't know what the fuss is about with Ethan. I watched him closely for passages of the game last weekend. He's almost always late to the breakdown, and when he gets there he flops onto the ruck and maybe gives it a push if at all. But I wouldn't say he seems to hit the rucks with any sort of ferocity. He's shit at carrying, doesn't have a passing game, and isn't really a dominant tackler (just ask Caleb). I must be missing something. But if I'm not, I hope he and the rest of the pack are exposed by the Chiefs
I hope he has a bad game (which he hasn’t this season, in fact he has been the complete opposite) and is then named on the 23rd.
He could have a shocker, and I fully expect him to be named
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@Crazy-Horse said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
. I will be worried for the ABs if they don't.
So how the rest of us felt last year when a truck load of the failing Cantabs were selected in the ABs?
@Nepia said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Crazy-Horse said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
. I will be worried for the ABs if they don't.
So how the rest of us felt last year when a truck load of the failing Cantabs were selected in the ABs?
Yep and I was amongst 'the rest'.
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@Chris said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Chris-B said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Chris said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
Williams back for the final and Springer on the wing are the only changes I am hearing from the Blues game.
Some doubt over Newell he may also not pull up fit.Good news!
Expected news - but, I would have thought long and hard about McNicholl instead (or maybe even McLeod). Get into it Macca!
Was it Waisake Naholo who got some sort of miracle cure before a test with some Fijian leaves? Get some of those leaves Fletch - your team needs you - quite badly!
Sam Matenga has been training in the 23 so if Fletch is out I expect Sam will be on the bench.
That would be quite a loss.
Matenga promoted ahead of presumably Calder? Is he also injured?
@Chris-B said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Chris said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Chris-B said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Chris said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
Williams back for the final and Springer on the wing are the only changes I am hearing from the Blues game.
Some doubt over Newell he may also not pull up fit.Good news!
Expected news - but, I would have thought long and hard about McNicholl instead (or maybe even McLeod). Get into it Macca!
Was it Waisake Naholo who got some sort of miracle cure before a test with some Fijian leaves? Get some of those leaves Fletch - your team needs you - quite badly!
Sam Matenga has been training in the 23 so if Fletch is out I expect Sam will be on the bench.
That would be quite a loss.
Matenga promoted ahead of presumably Calder? Is he also injured?
Sam featured earlier in the season. He’ll be up for it. Would be ideal to have our 3 AB props fit and firing for the big dance, but I’m more worried about the drop off we’ve seen a few times this season when Taylor has been replaced.
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@Chris-B said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Chris said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Chris-B said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
@Chris said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
Williams back for the final and Springer on the wing are the only changes I am hearing from the Blues game.
Some doubt over Newell he may also not pull up fit.Good news!
Expected news - but, I would have thought long and hard about McNicholl instead (or maybe even McLeod). Get into it Macca!
Was it Waisake Naholo who got some sort of miracle cure before a test with some Fijian leaves? Get some of those leaves Fletch - your team needs you - quite badly!
Sam Matenga has been training in the 23 so if Fletch is out I expect Sam will be on the bench.
That would be quite a loss.
Matenga promoted ahead of presumably Calder? Is he also injured?
Sam featured earlier in the season. He’ll be up for it. Would be ideal to have our 3 AB props fit and firing for the big dance, but I’m more worried about the drop off we’ve seen a few times this season when Taylor has been replaced.
@ACT-Crusader said in Final - Crusaders v Chiefs:
but I’m more worried about the drop off we’ve seen a few times this season when Taylor has been replaced.
Which is a worry when Bell is presumably the next in line for ABs if any of the top 3 are injured.....
