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  • Victor MeldrewV Offline
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    @stodders said in Springboks v Italy II:

    @Victor-Meldrew they have a clear way of playing. It helps. Quite a lot of change coming in the next 2-3 years as their squad changes.

    They have an insane amount of talent, but SA always has. Rassie is adept at selecting the right players for how he wants to play. They still bleed when you cut them though 😂

    Hope so. Want to roll them over in the RC.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in Springboks v Italy II:

    @Bones

    Thinking more about how much better SA are at developing players.

    And playing for 80 minutes...

    EDIT: The Barrett Conglomerate make up for stupid cards though.....

    I'm just at a bit of a loss comparing Italy development team to France development team. And the bit about 4 debutants really made my whoosh alert spin.

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    @Victor-Meldrew maybe. But the Boks have 11 reasonably experienced players playing alongside the rookies. And none of the rookies are playing in combos with other rookies.

    Whereas the French forward pack today was green and got dealt to (as they should) until the experience rolled off the bench.

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    @stodders said in Springboks v Italy II:

    But the Boks have 11 reasonably experienced players playing alongside the rookies. And none of the rookies are playing in combos with other rookies.

    Guess that's kinda my point. We aren't in that position with settled combos quite yet. Good progress though.

    SA approach is one we should look at

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    @Victor-Meldrew why? ABs were doing it 20 years ago with Henry, Smith and Hansen with their rest and rotation strategy. This isn’t new. NZ just haven’t been as good at exposing enough up and coming talent to test match rugby because the team has been struggling and winning has been the focus.

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    @stodders I'm tempted to side with Victor having too much red and eyeing up a shark jump.

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    @Bones best have a wash too 😂

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    @stodders said in Springboks v Italy II:

    @Bones best have a wash too 😂

    Let's not get carried away

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    Rassie has been watching Paul Roos tactics.

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    @OomPB jumping into the tackle and obstruction.

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    Absolutely fucking destroyed

    By 14 men, 13 for 10 mins

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    @sparky said in Springboks v Italy II:

    @Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:

    The fuck? Surely intentionally doing that is a penalty?

    SA purposefully ran in front of the kicker at kick off and only kicked it like 2m straight to the guy in front, to force a scrum.

    Here's video of the incident:

    How is that not a penalty?

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    @booboo

    Law 12.8(d):
    “If the kicker's team is not behind the ball when it is kicked, a free-kick is awarded to the opposing team at the centre of the half-way line.”

    World Rugby Passport - 12 Kick-off and restart kicks
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    @Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:

    @OomPB jumping into the tackle and obstruction.

    A case of rejecting reality, to substitute your own Bones. The Copium is real.

    Law 9.26
    In open play, any player may lift or support a player from the same team. Players who support or lift a teammate must lower the player to the ground safely as soon as the ball is won by a player of either team.

    World Rugby Passport - 9 Foul play
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    @PN said in Springboks v Italy II:

    @booboo

    Law 12.8(d):
    “If the kicker's team is not behind the ball when it is kicked, a free-kick is awarded to the opposing team at the centre of the half-way line.”

    World Rugby Passport - 12 Kick-off and restart kicks

    So the ref cocked up and it should have been a free kick at least?

    I'm pretty sure the drafting of the Law assumes the transgression is unintentional.

    Will have to check out Laws around intentional transgression of the Laws.

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    A bit of waffle in the preamble to the Law book:

    SPIRIT
    Rugby owes much of its appeal to the fact that it is played both to the letter and
    within the spirit of the laws. The responsibility for ensuring that this happens lies not with one individual - it involves coaches, captains, players and referees.

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    @booboo welcome to professionalism.

    Rassie is innovative and seeks any advantage within the laws. It isn’t what I call within the spirit of the game. But that is a throwback to the amateur era.

    Winning is all that counts now. Any which way.

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    Under Law 9 Foul Play

    UNFAIR PLAY
    7. A player must not:
    a. Intentionally infringe any law of the game

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    @stodders said in Springboks v Italy II:

    @booboo welcome to professionalism.

    Rassie is innovative and seeks any advantage within the laws. It isn’t what I call within the spirit of the game. But that is a throwback to the amateur era.

    Winning is all that counts now. Any which way.

    See above.

    He got away with that one through a reffing error.

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    @booboo sanction at a kick off is a scrum to the opposition. Rassie will have done his homework.

    It isn’t a penalty or a FK. Look how fast the SA props arrived for the scrum. They knew.

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