Wallabies v Lions II
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@sparky said in Wallabies v Lions II:
@KiwiMurph It took place in Dublin so it was a home game for the British and Irish Lions and their first ever game in Ireland. For me, it was a warm-up game rather than part of the tour itself.
I'm pleased to see the approach you're taking on this and in the same spirit I'm adapting it to prove the All Blacks have never lost by removing outcomes I'm not enamoured of.
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I'd suggest that my interpretation is backed by the facts of geographical fact. Dublin is in Ireland so therefore a game there is not part of a tour by the British and Irish Lions.
However, this quote from the Lions' own website on the Argentina game somewhat undermines my interpretation.
Either way, winning every game in Australia would be a unique achievement for a Lions touring squad, although obviously one aided by shorter tours, neutral refs and the less challenging nature of the opposition on this tour.
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@sparky said in Wallabies v Lions II:
I'd suggest that my interpretation is backed by the facts of geographical fact. Dublin is in Ireland so therefore a game there is not part of a tour by the British and Irish Lions.
However, this quote from the Lions' own website on the Argentina game somewhat undermines my interpretation.
So even the team that lost disagrees with your take. Perhaps you should ruminate on that.
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@antipodean I did.
The key point is surely this. If the Lions win these last two games, it will be seen as a massive achievement by their fan base and they will talk about it for years and years and years.
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no i won't because Australian rugby is dogshit.
England, Scotland or Ireland would expect to come here and pretty much do the same thing, let alone a team of their best players combined.
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@mariner4life said in Wallabies v Lions II:
no i won't because Australian rugby is dogshit.
It won't stop them celebrating like they've won the World Cup and put a man on the moon.
If his team wins these two games, it will be Sir Andrew Farrell.
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Folks in Australia may have largely tuned out from their national Rugby team, but that's not how people in the UK and Irish Rugby media and their readers see it.
This from the BBC website gives a flavour of how it is seen there and what Andy Farrell thinks is at stake.
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@sparky said in Wallabies v Lions II:
@mariner4life said in Wallabies v Lions II:
no i won't because Australian rugby is dogshit.
It won't stop them celebrating like they've won the World Cup and put a man on the moon.
They do that when they win a penalty.
If his team win these two games, it will be Sir Andrew Farrell.
Mugabe was knighted.
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McCarthy and Hansen didn't train so must both be serious doubts to play.
My guess at the Lions team.
- Genge
- Sheehan
- Furlong
- Itoje. (C)
- Beirne
- Chessum
- Curry
- Conan
- Gibson-Park
- Russell
- Lowe
- Tuipolotu
- Jones
- Freeman
- Kennan
- Kelleher
- Porter
- Stuart
- Morgan
- Pollock
- Mitchell
- M. Smith
- Aki
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@mariner4life said in Wallabies v Lions II:
no i won't because Australian rugby is dogshit.
England, Scotland or Ireland would expect to come here and pretty much do the same thing, let alone a team of their best players combined.
This is one is armed and ready for later in the Summer
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@mariner4life said in Wallabies v Lions II:
no i won't because Australian rugby is dogshit.
England, Scotland or Ireland would expect to come here and pretty much do the same thing, let alone a team of their best players combined.
Almost like a combined England, Scotland and Ireland against Wales?
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@antipodean said in Wallabies v Lions II:
They do that when they win a penalty.
Earls does it when the opposition knock on
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@MiketheSnow said in Wallabies v Lions II:
@mariner4life said in Wallabies v Lions II:
no i won't because Australian rugby is dogshit.
England, Scotland or Ireland would expect to come here and pretty much do the same thing, let alone a team of their best players combined.
This is one is armed and ready for later in the Summer
I do hope Jac Morgan is rewarded this week with a spot in the 23.
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Neither McCarthy nor Hansen trained today
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Given the injuries or suspected injuries, I'd say you're pretty close there.
I'd like to see Kinghorn in for Lowe and maybe Farrell in for Aki on the bench, but then if he's there do we need M Smith as well? In which case I'd suggest Ringrose. instead of Smith. That would give us cover at 10, 12, 13, wing and fullback..
However I do not think that will happen and your call is closer than mine. Though they might swap Chessum and Beirne round and we might see Cummings on the bench in favour of one of the back row boys.
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If McCarthy out and Skelton and Robby V in the physicality pendulum will swing. So Chessum to start. And Cummings to bench, so no Pollock yet. If Kinghorn were to start then Ringrose would make sense. In which case, a Smith or Farrell would come in to the equation.
But could argue that no impetus to make changes in backs. -
Wallabies team to play British & Irish Lions at the Melbourne Cricket Ground in Melbourne on Saturday July 26 at 7:45pm AEST
- James Slipper (145 Tests) – #843; Bond Pirates
- David Porecki (20 Tests) - #952; Seaforth Raiders
- Allan Alaalatoa (82 Tests) – #896; West Harbour Juniors
- Nick Frost (27 Tests) – #953; Hornsby Lions
- Will Skelton (32 Tests) - #883; The Hills Sports High School
- Rob Valetini (52 Tests) - #929; Harlequin Junior Rugby Club
- Fraser McReight (27 Tests) – #937; Albany Creek Brumbies
- Harry Wilson (c) (24 Tests) – #933; Gunnedah Red Devils
- Jake Gordon (30 Tests) - #925; Canterbury Juniors
- Tom Lynagh (4 Tests) - #977; University of Queensland
- Harry Potter (4 Tests) - #989; Moorabbin Rams
- Len Ikitau (41 Tests) – #944; Tuggeranong Vikings
- Joseph-Aukuso Suaalii (6 Tests) – #988; The Kings School
- Max Jorgensen (9 Tests) – #984; Balmain Wolves
- Tom Wright (39 Tests) – #939; Clovelly Eagles
Substitutes
16. Billy Pollard (8 Tests) – #958; Lindfield Junior Rugby Club
17. Angus Bell (38 Tests) – #940; Hunters Hill Rugby Club
18. Tom Robertson (32 Tests) – #898; Dubbo Junior Rugby Club
19. Jeremy Williams (12 Tests) – #973; Wahroonga Tigers
20. Langi Gleeson (15 Tests) - #960; Harbord Harlequins
21. Carlo Tizzano (7 Tests) – #982; University of Western Australia
22. Tate McDermott (43 Tests) – #936; Flinders Rugby Club
23. Ben Donaldson (18 Tests) – #962; Clovelly Eagles