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  • canefanC Offline
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    The focus on the final non-call is embarrassing

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  • NTAN Offline
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    Here's the Upset Aussie Fan in me:

    Fuck me dead, how do you not find a penalty for the attacking side flying into that ruck with no desire or attempt to keep their feet whatsoever? Are we just throwing player safety out the window now? Not a fucking chance in hell Morgan was looking to do anything but seal off and take out the jackal while he was at it.

    Fuck me dead, how did Genge win penalties at scrum time with his elbow pointing toward the ground? Open your fucking eyes ref - he couldn't win legally so he just fucking dropped it and you chickened the fuck out.

    Where's the fucking medical staff looking at Conan after he could barely get back to his fucking feet early in the game? Do your fucking jobs, you fluffybunnies.

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    I had the commentary turned off but to me it looked like Morgan made no attempt to stay on his feet, had his head below his hips, and connected with the back of the Wallabies neck. So for those who are saying it's not a penalty take me through it.

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    Here's the realistic Aussie Fan in me:

    We gave up absolutely pissweak metres every time we were on defence. It was embarrassing that a Test side could not defend channels 2 & 3 after weeks together in camp.

    Sua'ali'i is just terrible defending at 13. Retreated into no-man's land rather than make a decision and at least smack a fluffybunny.

    We're so passive in defence in general. I don't know what the pattern is - up-n-in or up-n-out because it just looks like back-back-back.

    We lived off some flashy back play and Skelton and Valetini monstering blokes all through the first half. I suspect Valetini tweaked his calf. Gleeson was good value when he came on but we weren't getting enough quick ball to let him ride.

    The ref cleaned up the offside line that BOK let waver, but didn't do as much about bodies in the ruck as I would have liked, and once our ball got slow, that was that.

    Yes it's an improved performance, but it is built on a couple of players, not a good team structure.

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    The Lions were so bad

    And yet the The wallabies were so much worse

    If we don't destroy this team then we're going nowhere

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    @brodean said in Wallabies v Lions II:

    I had the commentary turned off but to me it looked like Morgan made no attempt to stay on his feet, had his head below his hips, and connected with the back of the Wallabies neck. So for those who are saying it's not a penalty take me through it.

    My take is no player arrives at rucks with the intent of staying on their feet anymore, so deciding to change the interpretation you've gone all series with on the basis of a hollywood is unreasonable.

    I'm also 100% certain the bleating would be the complete opposite if the jerseys were swapped.

    On the balance it's nowhere near as egregious as the Genge scrumming penalty.

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    Oh go away Mariner. A cracking game, don’t give me that cynical kiwi bullshit.

    Sick and tired of these last minute ball kicking losses. 0 stars. Hate life going to bed.

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    @NTA said in Wallabies v Lions II:

    Here's the realistic Aussie Fan in me:

    We gave up absolutely pissweak metres every time we were on defence. It was embarrassing that a Test side could not defend channels 2 & 3 after weeks together in camp.

    Sua'ali'i is just terrible defending at 13. Retreated into no-man's land rather than make a decision and at least smack a fluffybunny.

    We're so passive in defence in general. I don't know what the pattern is - up-n-in or up-n-out because it just looks like back-back-back.

    We lived off some flashy back play and Skelton and Valetini monstering blokes all through the first half. I suspect Valetini tweaked his calf. Gleeson was good value when he came on but we weren't getting enough quick ball to let him ride.

    The ref cleaned up the offside line that BOK let waver, but didn't do as much about bodies in the ruck as I would have liked, and once our ball got slow, that was that.

    Yes it's an improved performance, but it is built on a couple of players, not a good team structure.

    This is so spot on.

    Every other team will look at that midfield and get erect. NZ and SA will do more with it then this average side would

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  • sparkyS Offline
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    A vastly improved Aussie effort, but the Lions got the win and deserved it. No point whinging about it.

    Be better next time.

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    Fuck up!!!!

    That's a genuine clean out!!!

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    I'm absolutely embarrassed that this is what we're talking about

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  • NTAN Offline
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    Ultimately there is fuck all Uncle Joe can do about this when he's given the cattle we've got, from the systems we've got.

    Change the coach to Kiss. Or Larkham. Or me. Won't make a lick of difference.

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    Yeah that's the problem. You've got a few great players but they're backed by some shit ones

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    Jesus christ really is the entire thing one clean out???

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    No you didn't. Joe your defence was pathetic

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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    I'm glad I went to the game

    Not only do you get the atmosphere you don't have to put up with the commentary

    Very fun game.

    Best performance of the Schmidt era.

    Agreed about the wallaby defensive system. It's a scramble system - reminds me of Scott McLeod's AB defensive system - yuck

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    6-2 split wasn’t tactical. It was an admission.

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    @game_film said in Wallabies v Lions II:

    6-2 split wasn’t tactical. It was an admission.

    An admission that our tactics in the first game didn't work?

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    @NTA An admission that they weren’t fit. But they had to play.

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    @NTA said in Wallabies v Lions II:

    Ultimately there is fuck all Uncle Joe can do about this when he's given the cattle we've got, from the systems we've got.

    Change the coach to Kiss. Or Larkham. Or me. Won't make a lick of difference.

    Implementing a rush defence system was something that he could have done, but never did. They probably would have won the game if they just brought some line speed.

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