QF: Otago v Waikato
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@Grooter said in QF: Otago v Waikato:
@sparky https://www.facebook.com/100063863314076/posts/943652154440220/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v
Cheers Sparky, it became comfortable viewing for me when Pledger scored his 2nd similar to this, well Waikato had other ideas in the final 10 but thankfully we prevailed in the end
He said in the post match interview that he heard Roe call the play earlier in the game and just put himself where he remembered the ball going. Heck of a heads up play.
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@Crazy-Horse said in QF: Otago v Waikato:
Pledger is obviously a soecial talent, but I would be hesitant to pick him this year. He still has the build of a boy and I would hate to see him broken because he was thrown in the deep end too soon.
Watching Cruden pressed home to me how bad our current crop of kickers are at getting distance on their punts. Cruden in his prime was never one of our bigger kickers, but today he consistently got an extra 10 to 20 metres on clearance kicks compared to the younger slosh doing the rounds in NZ rugby at the moment. It is a major weakness.
im going to buck the trend....get him in there...i think more young wonder kids (and hes 20 not 17 or somethign) would be good.....i think we've over corrected and we coddle them soo much. Im sure its happened but i cant really remember the last young gun who got a good shot early and burnt out
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@Kiwiwomble said in QF: Otago v Waikato:
@Crazy-Horse said in QF: Otago v Waikato:
Pledger is obviously a soecial talent, but I would be hesitant to pick him this year. He still has the build of a boy and I would hate to see him broken because he was thrown in the deep end too soon.
Watching Cruden pressed home to me how bad our current crop of kickers are at getting distance on their punts. Cruden in his prime was never one of our bigger kickers, but today he consistently got an extra 10 to 20 metres on clearance kicks compared to the younger slosh doing the rounds in NZ rugby at the moment. It is a major weakness.
im going to buck the trend....get him in there...i think more young wonder kids (and hes 20 not 17 or somethign) would be good.....i think we've over corrected and we coddle them soo much. Im sure its happened but i cant really remember the last young gun who got a good shot early and burnt out
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@Kiwiwomble said in QF: Otago v Waikato:
@Crazy-Horse said in QF: Otago v Waikato:
Pledger is obviously a soecial talent, but I would be hesitant to pick him this year. He still has the build of a boy and I would hate to see him broken because he was thrown in the deep end too soon.
Watching Cruden pressed home to me how bad our current crop of kickers are at getting distance on their punts. Cruden in his prime was never one of our bigger kickers, but today he consistently got an extra 10 to 20 metres on clearance kicks compared to the younger slosh doing the rounds in NZ rugby at the moment. It is a major weakness.
im going to buck the trend....get him in there...i think more young wonder kids (and hes 20 not 17 or somethign) would be good.....i think we've over corrected and we coddle them soo much. Im sure its happened but i cant really remember the last young gun who got a good shot early and burnt out
The two that spring to mind are Isaia Toeava and Ben Atiga.
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@Kiwiwomble said in QF: Otago v Waikato:
@brodean i thought he was still in most people 23
Well we'd have to start a poll in SF but not sure if we are a general representation of the population for most people.
Out of the 5 Chiefs loose forwards picked for the ABs this year he was 5th best for me and I dont think there should be 5 Chiefs loose forwards in the squad.
Still I wouldn't use his selection and second season syndrome as an excuse not to pick younger players.
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@Kiwiwomble said in QF: Otago v Waikato:
@brodean do you think thats because he was brought in too early in his career or just because he has a stand out season right when there was urgent need in the ABs...and now hes playing normally?
I would say its mainly because he has been injured and he hasn't been allowed to recover from his injury properly by building form - poor injury management of inexperienced players.
Its ok for a McCaw who has been playing tests for 10 years to come back from injury and slot straight back in but a 23 year old in his second season of Super shouldn't be expected to be dropped back into the RC after an extended injury break which had a brief interlude of Super games.
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@brodean probably fair, but that tells me we just need to be better with players IN the system rather than leaving them to "develop" for years, i think take players on hot form and expose them to the next level...rather than play it too safe and then wonder why they didn;t kick on
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@Kiwiwomble said in QF: Otago v Waikato:
@brodean probably fair, but that tells me we just need to be better with players IN the system rather than leaving them to "develop" for years, i think take players on hot form and expose them to the next level...rather than play it too safe and then wonder why they didn;t kick on
Agree completely.
But you have to wonder what the point of having 4 players deep is if youre not going to pick the player of those 4 who is in form now?
