Poms v Wallabies - 2025 EOYT
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@sparky said in Poms v Wallabies - 2025 EOYT:
Not convinced by Dingwall or Steward for England yesterday , but I thought rest of their team looked very good indeed.
Once Steve Borthwick works out England's best 23 and how to play them then they are going to be a major threat to just about everyone.
Lawrence, Freeman, Slade, Ohjomo the midfield choices for me
The combination based on the game plan
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Freeman needs to completely ditch the winger mentality before he gets another gig at 13. He butchered two tries for Feyi-Waboso by lack of vision/greed/not trusting his pass.
I'd actually like to see him at 15 at some point.
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@Catogrande said in Poms v Wallabies - 2025 EOYT:
Freeman needs to completely ditch the winger mentality before he gets another gig at 13. He butchered two tries for Feyi-Waboso by lack of vision/greed/not trusting his pass.
I'd actually like to see him at 15 at some point.
He wasn’t alone in being blinkered, Feyi-Waboso butchered at least one as well.
Winger’s speed for the outside arc and you have another Guscott on your hands
I’d persevere
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@game_film said in Poms v Wallabies - 2025 EOYT:
Give me a list of top flight club teams Edmed would start for outside Oz
What is he, fifth choice 10?
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@NTA said in Poms v Wallabies - 2025 EOYT:
@Catogrande said in Poms v Wallabies - 2025 EOYT:
Aus are sa few players away from being a good side and the ones that weren't available today would have made a difference. Depth the issue
We don't have a top 30.
We have a top 12-15 then a bunch of honest toilers, who have come through a system that doesn't prepare them for Test Rugby.
By all measures we are a second tier nation; pulling out the occasional great win against the big boys, while under threat of losing to anyone in the top 20 on the day.
Stability at 10 has been a big issue this season. You’ve looked poor with Noah, up and down with Lynagh, probably the best with JOC, and now Edmed is treading water at this level.
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@ACT-Crusader
And I wonder what Donaldson thought of his team mate (Stewart) subbing on at 10. -
@ACT-Crusader Probably about 15th from what I’ve seen.
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@game_film said in Poms v Wallabies - 2025 EOYT:
@ACT-Crusader Probably about 15th from what I’ve seen.
Sure. Name 14 Australian flyhalves who are ahead of him
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@Catogrande said in Poms v Wallabies - 2025 EOYT:
England have depth in abundance but are struggling to find the way they want to play.
TBH mate it looks like they're mostly aping the way South Africa have won the last 2 RWC, which is not much different from the way England have played anyway. Why not if it works?
Clatterball.
Bosh forwards.
Kick it out of your half.
Linespeed on defence.
Don't pass more than once unless you have acres of space and serious numbers.Besides that one maul leading to a try late in the game - mostly the difference in quality between the benches IMHO - the forwards were fairly well contained by the Wallabies at set piece and even around the park. Tho McReight saved our blushes a few times
I think they've found the way they want to play, and as you say, it is Borthwick's conservative nature that will continue to guide the outcome.
They tried going in the general direction of flair but Marcus Smith found out the hard way that hoppy-steppy stuff has a ceiling when everyone else is bigger and faster.
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England have crazy depth in terms of forwards who are battle-hardened from seasons of Premier Rugby.
Australian fans are talking about resting blokes after a "hard year" of footy, yet we played 14 rounds of Super Rugby + finals as prep for Test Rugby, with the only fallback being semipro club.
Premier Rugby guys are getting 18 rounds + finals + crossover games. You get found out there pretty quickly in terms of your preparation
