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  • BartManB Offline
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    BartMan
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    #26

    Walking lunges - ten minutes - that will pack some stamina into your thighs! I have been pounding a set of concrete stairs over the last couple of days trying to get rid of some fluid on thighs. I forgot how much I love stair climbing! 108 to the top, takes about 54 seconds, with each step the heal touching the ground again. I used to sprint them around 30 times in my rugby days, and walk (stumble down).<br />
    <br />
    I think I would not mind this hill / trail running thing, sounds intense, good luck.

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    • WairauW Offline
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      Wairau
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      #27

      Bart, I've learnt a fair bit from all your posts on these different threads, cheers. Hope others are getting motivation from them. I've cut my carbs this weekend to almost zero (trying to cut a few kgs of fat off) and had more lean chicken (as well as vege juices and fruit and protein drinks and eggs). I used to go for beef as main protein source but it's too fatty I think.<br />
      <br />
      Anyway, point is my hiking today-I kinda hit the wall after an hour, so didn't do 75 minutes, and then did the regular strength stuff after a rest. Guess that's the muscles having insufficient glycogen. <br />
      <br />
      How do you work out intensley with so few carbs?<br />
      <br />
      Extra note: I'll do those walking lunges in June, thanks. Hopefully by June I'll be able to handle the overhead squats too. Aim then is to reduce the cardio stuff, and increase the strength/muscle building stuff. I will try to retain a good mountain run every two weeks though, nothing better. At the moment the 240 step intervals build stamina especially in the heart/lungs-I recover very quickly after exertion. Soon I'll add hill sprints to lift the leg fitness to a higher level.<br />
      <br />
      Good luck on your next month of training and competing.

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      • BartManB Offline
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        BartMan
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        #28

        don't cut the carbs! We only do that for a few weeks out of competition - otherwise we are getting ample to meet our workout needs! Not good!!<br />
        <br />
        My mate Deano was doing all sorts of weird stuff like that before he got onto our trainer too - and he was looking dead. one of the things he was doing was exactly that too - cutting carbs out onve rthe weekends.<br />
        <br />
        He came and saw us, and looked gray, we booked him in with Teresa , and he is now alive again, looking good, and lining up Waikato NABBA this July!<br />
        <br />
        We eat LOTS of steak - lean, fat cut off etc normally, me up to 4 times a week, Mrs x2.<br />
        <br />
        Track down a traditionalist if you can I reckon. Take in your training programme, and they can work from there what you should be eating!

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        • WairauW Offline
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          Wairau
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          #29

          Thanks for the advice. I've got about 2-3kg to lose before I will include carbs. Just trying to drop off a little surplus weight. I eat beef about 5 days a week normally, lean-usually slices of it boiled. Tonights dinner is a slab of tuna, sliced, fried on olive oil and salt, served on top of lightly bolied (water and soy sauce) veges and onion and raw tomato, with a little butter for taste. Yum<br />
          <br />
          I'll try to get a real programme sorted out eventually.

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          • BartManB Offline
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            BartMan
            wrote on last edited by
            #30

            I think bottom line is everything in moderation!<br />
            <br />
            as someone said - you can't out-train your diet!!

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            • WairauW Offline
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              Wairau
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              #31

              I'm still regularly doing these workouts, and the occasional longer (4-5 hour) run.hike. But I got tired of doing repetitive stairs, and I got several minor injuries over the summer months (June-August) -cuts on feet, blisters, sunburn at the beach, tight hamstrings, sore lower back which limited the frequency of my workouts. I now do no dead lifts or cleans, and back feels much better. Here's my latest workout, done with no real rest, only moving between exercises:<br />
              <br />
              <br />
              [B]2 sets bench press as heavy as I can do 6 or more reps, rest is 1 minute stretching<br />
              5 times up 240 stairs walking 2by2, and jog down<br />
              <br />
              3 sets of: <br />
              --6 reps heavy bench, <br />
              --15 lunges (for each leg) using a 25kg barbell, <br />
              --2 hill sprints up 150 steps<br />
              <br />
              2 sets of:<br />
              -- 1 dip down, then hold up position and run in place, then a few knee lifts, repeat as many as possible<br />
              --maximum number of lower weight bench press<br />
              <br />
              3 sets of pullups with running (for abs), as many as possible-I posted that exercise as a new thread.[/B]<br />
              <br />
              <br />
              <br />
              I'll join the gym in November for 3 months, and will post more then. I might increase the workout intensity/level for October as well. I feel great, feel like running everywhere and feel like running into things and abs are tight.

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              • WairauW Offline
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                Wairau
                wrote on last edited by
                #32

                Bumping this thread since it's coming onto Summer in NZ (Winter where I am though) and maybe this can motivate some people to try these workouts.<br />
                <br />
                Here's what I did in the drizzle today:<br />
                <br />
                1 hour of hiking: <br />
                -240 steps 2by2, jog down, sprint up 150 steps, jog down....repeat the cycle for an hour<br />
                <br />
                -other stuff:<br />
                -6 sets of bench (75kg*6-8 reps)<br />
                -6 sets of about 20 lunges for each leg, holding a 20kg barbell in bicep curl position. I try to mix these up to improve balance, not just in front of me but changing lunge direction.<br />
                -extra stretching<br />
                <br />
                then to another workout area for <br />
                -3 sets of dips *10, and then <br />
                -3 sets of pull ups and an ab workout.<br />
                <br />
                So....get into it and enjoy the fantastic NZ environment and early summer weather!

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                  davidav
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                  Burpees are the most evil thing created by man. You kind of need to develop a perverse love for them; otherwise you will stop doing them after a few workouts. I think there are few, if any, other exercises that compare in terms of providing a full body workout in one exercise.<br />
                  <br />
                  If you are traveling or really short on time and you want to exercise and get a decent workout in the least amount of time possible, then burpees are where it's at.

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                    Allstar
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                    [quote name='davidav']Burpees are the most evil thing created by man. You kind of need to develop a perverse love for them; otherwise you will stop doing them after a few workouts. I think there are few, if any, other exercises that compare in terms of providing a full body workout in one exercise.<br />
                    <br />
                    If you are traveling or really short on time and you want to exercise and get a decent workout in the least amount of time possible, then burpees are where it's at.[/QUOTE]<br />
                    <br />
                    Completely agree. They're one thing on my fitness program I hate. Especially as they're right at the end of my workout. Three sets of eight is my max right now. Working my way up though

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                    • BartManB Offline
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                      #35

                      burpees, I had a workout once that was solely burpees. Can't remember it rightly, but something like doing 20, then 19, then 18, then 17 etc down to maybe 10, with a minutes rest in between.<br />
                      <br />
                      Might try that on me next cardio day.<br />
                      <br />
                      Now burpee as I remember it is same as a squat- thrust sort of thing. Stand, down onto hands both feet back, then both feet back under you, and jump into the eat is one...??

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                        davidav
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #36

                        Bart:<br />
                        <br />
                        There are different variations of Burpees, but I like to do them with a push-up at the bottom. So squat, kick out, push-up, return to squat position, then jump. That's one.<br />
                        <br />
                        I've been doing sets of 10. Most recently I did 5 sets of 10. My goal is to work up to 5 sets of 20. I mix these in with sprint training, which makes for a very nice interval-type workout.

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                          BartMan
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #37

                          YEAH, THAT PRESS UP RINGS A BELL WITH THE training programme I had briefly.<br />
                          <br />
                          I might give that a crack this week sometime. I remember it hurts, and the explosiveness will have to be good for the legs.

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                            ACT Crusader
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #38

                            [quote name='davidav']Bart:<br />
                            <br />
                            There are different variations of Burpees, but I like to do them with a push-up at the bottom. So squat, kick out, push-up, return to squat position, then jump. That's one.<br />
                            <br />
                            I've been doing sets of 10. Most recently I did 5 sets of 10. My goal is to work up to 5 sets of 20. I mix these in with sprint training, which makes for a very nice interval-type workout.[/QUOTE]<br />
                            <br />
                            Dav - if you want a slight variation, instead of just doing a straightforward pushup, let your chest touch the ground and then pushup from the ground. Just adds that little bit extra resistance to your triceps.<br />
                            <br />
                            Burpees are evil, but I love them in my circuit training. A workout that absolutely knocks me out that takes only about 12-15mins all up is<br />
                            <br />
                            Kettlebell swings (24kg) - 30 secs<br />
                            Burpees - 30 secs<br />
                            Treadmill sprint (lvl 18) - 1 min<br />
                            <br />
                            Repeat 5 times with as little rest as possible in between

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                              mariner4life
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                              #39

                              If someone could find a study that said burpees were actually really bad for you i would be eternally grateful. They have been a staple for rugby coaches and fitness trainers for ever, and i for one have had enough.

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                                BartMan
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                                #40

                                lol. I reckon...

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                                  davidav
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #41

                                  [quote name='mariner4life']If someone could find a study that said burpees were actually really bad for you i would be eternally grateful. They have been a staple for rugby coaches and fitness trainers for ever, and i for one have had enough.[/QUOTE]<br />
                                  <br />
                                  And the church said AMEN.<br />
                                  <br />
                                  Unfortunately, in my experience, nothing but good can come from doing burpees regularly. In fact, if you stopped doing everything else but kept doing burpees 3 or more times a week you would remain pretty fit.

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                                    Voltron
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                                    #42

                                    Another one along the same lines as burpees (ie a bit cardio, a bit strength, hard as fark) is The Bear from the crossfit website. <br />
                                    <br />
                                    [video=youtube;0WOP9J7QPwI]

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                                    <br />
                                    The last time i did it i went from starting at 20kg, up to 40kg for the final set (5kg increase per set). I thought i might die. Only takes about 15mins. Burpees are for pussies.

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                                      Wairau
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #43

                                      [quote name='Voltron']Another one along the same lines as burpees (ie a bit cardio, a bit strength, hard as fark) is The Bear from the crossfit website. <br />
                                      <br />
                                      The last time i did it i went from starting at 20kg, up to 40kg for the final set (5kg increase per set). I thought i might die. Only takes about 15mins. Burpees are for pussies.[/QUOTE]<br />
                                      <br />
                                      Thanks Voltron, I will try that-looks tough. There's a 40kg (?) barbell up at the hill workout area where I go. I'll do my typical 30-60 minute leg session, then BP sets, then this, then some final pull up-ab sets. Also thanks to Davidav for the comments about the burpees, I should do some.<br />
                                      <br />
                                      Bartman-I've been doing more hill sprints lately, and find my running is faster and stronger than when I was just doing the atair climbing. I still do mostly 2by2 steps when running, as long as I can manage it, but do 200 steps each time-did 10 times in a row yesteray. My last 1 hour run/hike was very easy, and fast. I will try to do a 2.5-4 hour hike every 3-4 weeks. I did one 2 weeks ago on a sunny Autumn day. Nice.<br />
                                      <br />
                                      Ideally would be:<br />
                                      1250 steps striding 2 by 2 max speed<br />
                                      1
                                      250 steps sprint as quick as possible<br />
                                      Repeat for total 8 times. Then bench press, the above barbells, and finish with pull-ups and pull up abs.<br />
                                      <br />
                                      My knee-the front anyway-gets some tightness sometimes at the moment after I did some walking lunges, so I'm hoping it goes away with time. And my shoulder tendon is sore if I do too many dips.

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                                      • WairauW Offline
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                                        Wairau
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                                        #44

                                        [quote name='BartMan']I think that might be a little extreme!! Takes more than a run after a bus!!<br />
                                        <br />
                                        it is a mad science though, and my mad scientists seem to know what they are doing![/QUOTE]<br />
                                        <br />
                                        So if I want to gain overall muscle with the following schedule -which I'm trying to set up for March-June-should I be really careful to eat a lot, and a lot of protein before and after long workouts? Any comments you have would be great, cheers!<br />
                                        <br />
                                        Sun 3-4 hour hike/run AM (maybe every 2nd week?), then gym PM upperbody-general<br />
                                        Monday gym PM upperbody-specific<br />
                                        Tuesday gym PM upperbody-specific<br />
                                        Wednesday rest<br />
                                        Thursday 75minutes hill climbing repeats AM, gym PM upperbody-specific<br />
                                        Friday gym PM upperbody-specific<br />
                                        Saturday rest<br />
                                        <br />
                                        <br />
                                        on another note, I recently did 100 pull ups-split over 8 sets, however. And yesterday 50 pull ups in 3 sets. Not bad, considering I was struggling to do 5 in mid-last year.

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                                          jack carton
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                                          If you are interested in weight loss than your workout must be<br />
                                          very hard, your work hard only can show you the <br />
                                          right result.

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