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  • PaekakboyzP Offline
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    #324

    Second boxing session tonight. Good fun. Actually loosened me up from yesterday workout. Back at the gym tomorrow before we head away for the weekend. Will have to see how the body feels tomorrow.

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  • BartManB Offline
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    boxing is cool that's for sure, great sweat up after o.1 seconds I used to find. After a minute sparring wet like you'd been for a swim!

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    Hell yeah, I sweat like a bastard so after a few swings I've got a sheen on for sure. Not sore at all today - just that nice sense of slightly fatigued muscles. <br />
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    Keen as to rip into squats tonight, time to add a bit of weight - will have a crack at 130, 145, 140. Warming up on 120 seems a bit light and it'll help in the long run to increase it over all three sets.<br />
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    Should have a good sleep tonight - 3 days in a row isn't my usual workout pattern!

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    Thats quite a heavy warm up weight mate?<br />
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    I usually start at 60kg for 12 reps and then go to 100kg for first real working set.

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    I usually do that too, ten or so deeeep and sloooow squats at 60 and then into the work. JUst to get the blood flowing.

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    Yeah I finish with a lighter and deeper high rep set too. So 4 heavy working sets and 2 lighter sets in total

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    I start heavier because I do three rounds of super sets of box step ups and swiss ball hammie curls - the PT I'm working with is really big on doing superset exercises that fire up the big muscle groups before getting into DL's, Squats and Benchpress. <br />
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    Lol kind of forgot to add that vital bit of info!! In my head I still consider that first set to be a warmup even though I'm primed and ready to go : )<br />
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    Had an interesting chat with a guy after boxing last night - I think he must be a kickboxer or something but is super cut/strong. He asked about my DL's and I was having a moan about them not coming along as well as I'd like. He pointed out that DL's for guys with my build (short and stocky) can be tougher as we are starting at a lower position (mainly due to arm length). He finds DL's easier because of longer arms/leverage but squats are much tougher for him. Made sense I reckon - squats are a strength for me and bench is pretty good but DL's are still the hardest of the 3.<br />
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    I know MN5 is a pretty tall fulla and he shifts a fair whack of tin with the DL's too. Anyone else think this theory holds any substance??

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    I think that has merit, being a short stocky guy myself! Long levers can make some exercises harder, not sure about the DLs though because the flip side is we don't have to lift it as far either, and it's easier to get nice and low into position.

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    Went for gold on squats tonight. Dealt to 130, 150, 140 - was farking stoked to manage a full set at 150. Always interesting as they are sets of 6 so I've probably increased weight more slowly than if I was going for 1 lift max. Last couple of reps at 150 were pretty tough. So the target for July gets ticked off in June! that set the tone for the rest of the workout - went hard and was smashed by the end.<br />
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    Will be a wee while yet before I can crank up much more. Next squat workout will be a repeat of 130/150/140 then I'll start creeping on the first and last sets.<br />
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    Pretty much no soreness from boxing last night too - stoked to have done three days in a row and be feeling good at the end of it. I know what you mean Kirwan about the satisfaction of not being wrecked for your next workout!

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    I'm about 6 foot and deadlifts have consistently been above squats for me. Has been interesting to read you going past me on squats but i still find it relatively easy to deadlift 140+kg. Might be something in the tall/short theory. Us taller guys still have to shift the weight further on any exercise though, so were definitely better!

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    [quote name='Voltron']I'm about 6 foot and deadlifts have consistently been above squats for me. Has been interesting to read you going past me on squats but i still find it relatively easy to deadlift 140+kg. Might be something in the tall/short theory. Us taller guys still have to shift the weight further on any exercise though, so were definitely better![/QUOTE]<br />
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    I think Kirwan's point about us giants being able to get lower is where the difference is. It increases the distance we travel getting back into the upright stance compared to a longer limbed person. Given the thrust comes through your glutes/lower back (the 'hinge' point?) I guess longer arms mean you can complete the lift without bending over quite as much. Hmm I think that makes sense!<br />
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    Voltron - progress on DL's has certainly been slower than I'd hoped. PT has me doing elevated DL's at 150-160kg (about 20kg heavier than my usual max lifts). I do them every 3rd DL workout or so. Have thought about straps as well but your hands get roughed up no matter what. Still very much a novice in DL's so plenty of time to hone technique and build up that longer term strength in the back.<br />
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    I'd be stoked to be lifting 140kg+ easily! It's kind of weird in that I can bust out 120kg pretty easily but 130kg plus just does me over.

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    Your last sentence is exactly me for squats though. I have never been able to consistently do sets of 5 at 140kg or more no matter what i try.

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    Classic - we are the ying and yang of squats and deadlifts! Have you had a crack at any similar motions/exercises that let you strengthen the same muscles? kind of like my PT has me doing?

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    [quote name='Voltron']I'm about 6 foot and deadlifts have consistently been above squats for me. Has been interesting to read you going past me on squats but i still find it relatively easy to deadlift 140+kg. Might be something in the tall/short theory. [B]Us taller guys still have to shift the weight further on any exercise though, so were definitely better[/B]![/QUOTE]<br />
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    That is without a doubt the wisest thing I've ever read on the fitness forums. Never truer words spoken. The percentage of how much more awesome we are is immeasurable. <br />
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    Didn't know 6 foot was considered tall though :fishing:<img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />

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  • PaekakboyzP Offline
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    look if 6 foot is tall then I can claim 5' 9" as giant like!! let a fulla dream lol.<br />
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    On reflection if DL's are the only exercise I'll find a bit harder due to my frame then I can certainly live with that! not realistic to expect the same gains/progress across all exercises. So I'll remain optimistic of improving my DL's and enjoy faster improvements in the rest.<br />
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    Day three of a nasty head cold today. No aches but all I want to do is sleep. Have my gym gear with me but touch and go as to whether I'll make it tonight. Finish at 4pm so the temptation to beat the traffic and get home is strong!

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  • BartManB Offline
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    #339

    I think that DL theory sounds weird!! shorter leavers always easier to lift weights I reckon, no matter what exercise you do. You don't find many power lifters at 6'6"!!!

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    [quote name='BartMan']I think that DL theory sounds weird!! shorter leavers always easier to lift weights I reckon, no matter what exercise you do. You don't find many power lifters at 6'6"!!![/QUOTE]<br />
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    Heaps of Worlds strongest men type jokers are though, 6 foot 6 wide too....

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  • BartManB Offline
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    hmm, maybe more in the 'natural' world as opposed to the 'enhanced' world...!!!!!! Those blokes are almost like cartoon characters some of them!

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  • PaekakboyzP Offline
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    Finally back at the gym after a week off or so. Still dealing with a lingering cold but the workout didn't go too bad. Bench wasn't great but I did some swiss ball push ups beforehand. Thinking about adding in bench on both nights to get progress ticking over again. Rest of the programme was good. DL's were actually pretty good - funny how a break can be good for some exercises and kind of put you behind in others. Boxing on Wed and weights thursday. Should be working on the deck all weekend so plenty of activity lined up.

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    Fark - note of caution. Solid workout followed by shifting 90 odd 4.8m lengths of wood is not the way to end a friday! Might as well have been doing one of Kirwans cross-fit WOD workouts!! Back isn't quite on fire but a nice tingle. Just as well today was squats, shoulders and bicep/triceps!<br />
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    I can smell a steak being cooked and funnily enough I have a couple of pures in the fridge... see ya lads!

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