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  • antipodeanA Online
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    #178

    @WillieTheWaiter said in Blues v Highlanders:

    @antipodean said in Blues v Highlanders:

    @Bones said in Blues v Highlanders:

    @broughie said in Blues v Highlanders:

    No one is reading Pulu's game as when he makes the breaks from the base of the ruck as no one is with him in support. While an improvement on Hall he was smart to make the decision to play for Samoa.

    Say what?

    The Augustine Pulu that played for the All Blacks in 2014 and the 7s last year is a different Pulu that plays for the Blues.

    as in you mean he used to be good but since he moved to the Blues he's turned to shit?

    No, @broughie 's statement that Pulu decided to play for Samoa...

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    replied to WillieTheWaiter on last edited by mimic
    #179

    @WillieTheWaiter are you talking about Pulu or West?

    Edit: sorry just realised West was never any good

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    #180

    West is so obviously a journeyman 10 - sure he can kick goals but he doesn't have that magic key to unlock the Blues backs on attack, does not have a rapport with Pulu.
    Disappointed in Tupou's decision-making and performance for second week in a row , thought Cowley-Tuioti showed some steel and hunger when he came on. Should start next week with Nanai to FB. Akira added some go-forward, maybe he is best used in short bursts. Gibson and Moala are workhorses but need some bloody help. And someone lock Moala in a room and have him watch looped replays of Nonu's passing (Grantec this didn't happen overnight.)
    Ranger too lazy like all those who return (do not hold out much hope for Lowe either)

    Think Tana should start looking at his recruitment for next season - PRIORITY needs to be a decent 10.

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    replied to mimic on last edited by Stargazer
    #181

    @mimic West has plenty of talent and was a very promising player, but he could not develop into a better player and he has in fact become worse because he plays at the Blues.

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    replied to antipodean on last edited by
    #182

    @antipodean said in Blues v Highlanders:

    @Bones said in Blues v Highlanders:

    @broughie said in Blues v Highlanders:

    No one is reading Pulu's game as when he makes the breaks from the base of the ruck as no one is with him in support. While an improvement on Hall he was smart to make the decision to play for Samoa.

    Say what?

    The Augustine Pulu that played for the All Blacks in 2014 and the 7s last year is a different Pulu that plays for the Blues.

    Maybe the Blues funk is rubbing off on him.

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    replied to Crash on last edited by taniwharugby
    #183

    @Crash said in Blues v Highlanders:

    Ranger too lazy like all those who return (do not hold out much hope for Lowe either)

    I know it was injury enforced, but I bet NH are stoked they invested some $$$ in him when he came back to NZ and hasn't played a minute...hasn't been an announcement about where he will be playing ITM Cup this year, but based on his performances and apparent attitude, if he ends up back here, I hope they don't put too many $$$ out for him.

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    replied to Stargazer on last edited by
    #184

    @Stargazer said in Blues v Highlanders:

    @mimic West has plenty of talent and was a very promising player, but he could not develop into a better player and he has in fact become worse because he plays at the Blues.

    I put most of the blame on Hawkes Bay for not developing him properly. All that Championship rugby experience he has just doesn't prepare him well for Super Rugby...

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    replied to Dice on last edited by
    #185

    @Dice He spent more time in the Blues environment the last few years than in Hawke's Bay, so no, you're wrong.

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    @Stargazer said in Blues v Highlanders:

    @Dice He spent more time in the Blues environment the last few years than in Hawke's Bay, so no, you're wrong.

    He's born and raised in Hawkes Bay, so I don't think I'm wrong.

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    replied to Dice on last edited by
    #187

    @Dice Ahh, so they don't indeed develop players any further once they arrive at the Blues. That explains it all!

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    replied to Stargazer on last edited by
    #188

    @Stargazer said in Blues v Highlanders:

    @Dice Ahh, so they don't indeed develop players any further once they arrive at the Blues. That explains it all!

    Hard to develop someone who stands 15m's behind the gainline

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    replied to Dice on last edited by
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    @Dice At trainings? Poor coaching.

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    #190

    I actually think West has reached his potential - not every player has the ability to be a superstar. He was passed over by NZ franchises, he spent some time as a wider training member for the Chiefs and brought in as a injury replacement for the Blues. He has never been a player to drive a game - more of a complimentary piece which is why his best Super Rugby has come when he's had someone at 12 to take the pressure off (e.g. Nonu or Francis, not that im comparing Nonu and Francis as players)

    I think ideally West would be a really good Super Rugby bench 10.

    One player i'd like to see at 10 for Blues is Otere Black - but it doesnt look like happening. Be interesting how Perofeta goes if he gets some time later in the season.

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    #191

    @Stargazer said in Blues v Highlanders:

    @Dice At trainings? Poor coaching.

    I'm sure he stands flatter in training where there's no risk of getting into contact.

    It's hard to coach courage.

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    replied to Dice on last edited by
    #192

    @Dice Ridiculous how you attack a player and become nasty, just because you can't handle a ferner disagreeing with you.

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    replied to Stargazer on last edited by
    #193

    @Stargazer where are his posts nasty

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    #194

    West was supposed to get better this year because he had a decent halfback inside him. (according to some on here)

    Yet Bryn Hall comes to the crusaders and (fern favourite) Moaga still looks good, even Mitch Hunt stands flat and takes the line on.

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    replied to SammyC on last edited by Stargazer
    #195

    @SammyC Maybe Bryn Hall is playing better because he's playing for another team. And he was never as bad as some suggested he was.

    Not otherwise comparing West or Hall to them, but Naholo and Fekitoa also became better when they left the Blues. We might notice the same with Li.

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    replied to Stargazer on last edited by
    #196

    @Stargazer Hall looked poor when he started for Crusaders vs Highlanders. He had looked good off the bench for the Blues in the past too. I'd hold the horses on declaring him a much different player just yet.

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    replied to KiwiMurph on last edited by Stargazer
    #197

    @KiwiMurph I think the difference between starting and coming off the bench is marginal. He was excellent against the Reds off the bench, scoring two very important tries.

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