Rebels v Chiefs
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@Nepia said in Rebels v Chiefs:
@mariner4life said in Rebels v Chiefs:
@Nepia not even close? Nonu's last few years were unreal. Run threat, pass threat, a kicking game, and defensively hard. I reckon it's a valid discussion (after Horan was undisputed for years)
I think that Horan was a stand out and mostly mistake free over a long career - Nonu an easy second (this is of course of players I've actually seen play, old timers might punt for Bert Cooke). As a NZer I'd pick him for the Nepia XV over the dirty Aussie Horan ... but Horan is the better player for me.
Cooke is def a player that would not be able to play in another generation...he was a 62kg mid fielder....
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@taniwharugby said in Rebels v Chiefs:
@Nepia said in Rebels v Chiefs:
@mariner4life said in Rebels v Chiefs:
@Nepia not even close? Nonu's last few years were unreal. Run threat, pass threat, a kicking game, and defensively hard. I reckon it's a valid discussion (after Horan was undisputed for years)
I think that Horan was a stand out and mostly mistake free over a long career - Nonu an easy second (this is of course of players I've actually seen play, old timers might punt for Bert Cooke). As a NZer I'd pick him for the Nepia XV over the dirty Aussie Horan ... but Horan is the better player for me.
Cooke is def a player that would not be able to play in another generation...he was a 62kg mid fielder....
Like TNW?
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Yeah, you could never say Retallick is underrated. However, he is one of those players who is so consistently awesome that it's almost surprising. IMO, Whitelock is the one who is underrated, at least internationally.
I saw some glimpses of DMac and Shaun Stevenson in the opening minutes to make me feel a little better about next year. We'll be one of those teams with paper thin depth though.
I wouldn't say the Chiefs are lucky with their results because at least (IMO) they've looked the better team in every game they've played. The Crusaders are the ones who've been lucky because it seems to take them 60 minutes to realise their forwards are the best in the comp, and play accordingly.
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That was a bloody good Rebels display. Just ran out of gas at the end. McKenzie is definitely 10 >> 15. I quite like the look of Mitchell brown. Tkb is in great form at present.
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@Billy-Tell you think McKenzie is better at 10 than 15?
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@Rancid-Schnitzel Agree with the analysis. The conclusion depends on the question. For a one off Nonu has a strong case. Over a career less so. And don't forget Oz selectors made our life a hell of a lot easier for several years by selecting Tim for everywhere but 12. Bless them!
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DMac plays as much at first receiver as he does at the back whatever number he has on his back. He and Cruden play swapsies all the time which allows them to have a crack at the line and not be worried about being on the ground if there is quick ball for the next phase. The Chiefs rarely play a standard set up except first phase from a set piece and even then they will often present two first receivers.
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@mariner4life said in Rebels v Chiefs:
@Nepia not even close? Nonu's last few years were unreal. Run threat, pass threat, a kicking game, and defensively hard. I reckon it's a valid discussion (after Horan was undisputed for years)
Nonu had a key ingedient that probably gets overlooked a lot , intimidation
