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  • No QuarterN No Quarter

    Made a last minute decision to jump on the train and take the boy to his first Super game.

    Was a good crowd in, created a great atmosphere and they got their moneys worth despite the loss.

    The first half was awesome, both teams playing great footy. Things tightened up in the 2nd 40 and when the Blues went ahead I was sure they would push on, but they probably lack a bit leadership in the final 20 to put games like that away, which comes back to their 10.

    Anyway a few things I noted...

    Canes really missed Proctor at 13, it is pretty clear the positive influence he has on Laumape, who while running strongly was a bit lost and lacked vision.

    Another player that lacks vision is SBW, who is very much a one-tricky pony, the trick being take the contact and look for an offload, even when an obvious and simple draw and pass would put his outside away. I noticed it when he was playing 7s too, always looking for the contact/offload instead of passing to the man in space. That's really not the attributes you want in a test 12, so if he must be in the ABs I hope he doesn't start.

    Beauden is something else. MOTM by a country mile, and if I'm being honest if he's in a Blue jersey tonight they win that game pretty comfortably. As noted by @Nepia after years and years of sub-standard 10s at the Canes I am absolutely savouring having him there. Can feel Blues fans pain in that regard.

    Also mentioned by @Nepia is how quick Rieko is. Watching him chase BB live he was gaining on him but dived too early. May not have got him anyway but fuck he's good to watch in full flight, can see why the AB selectors like him.

    The ball didn't go J Savea's way tonight but for such an experienced AB I expected him to impose himself a lot more. As @hydro11 mentioned he's actually been very good this year, I think the break last week was bad for him - the more he plays the better he gets.

    Anyway I'm probably rambling a bit now but there's really nothing between the NZ teams again this year, while SA and Aus go through their struggles our teams are going from strength to strength. There's a heap of great work going on behind the scenes across all of NZ to make that happen - long may it continue.

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    @No-Quarter said in Blues v Hurricanes:

    Anyway I'm probably rambling a bit now but there's really nothing between the NZ teams again this year, while SA and Aus go through their struggles our teams are going from strength to strength. There's a heap of great work going on behind the scenes across all of NZ to make that happen - long may it continue.

    Forever and ever.
    Amen

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    • No QuarterN No Quarter

      Made a last minute decision to jump on the train and take the boy to his first Super game.

      Was a good crowd in, created a great atmosphere and they got their moneys worth despite the loss.

      The first half was awesome, both teams playing great footy. Things tightened up in the 2nd 40 and when the Blues went ahead I was sure they would push on, but they probably lack a bit leadership in the final 20 to put games like that away, which comes back to their 10.

      Anyway a few things I noted...

      Canes really missed Proctor at 13, it is pretty clear the positive influence he has on Laumape, who while running strongly was a bit lost and lacked vision.

      Another player that lacks vision is SBW, who is very much a one-tricky pony, the trick being take the contact and look for an offload, even when an obvious and simple draw and pass would put his outside away. I noticed it when he was playing 7s too, always looking for the contact/offload instead of passing to the man in space. That's really not the attributes you want in a test 12, so if he must be in the ABs I hope he doesn't start.

      Beauden is something else. MOTM by a country mile, and if I'm being honest if he's in a Blue jersey tonight they win that game pretty comfortably. As noted by @Nepia after years and years of sub-standard 10s at the Canes I am absolutely savouring having him there. Can feel Blues fans pain in that regard.

      Also mentioned by @Nepia is how quick Rieko is. Watching him chase BB live he was gaining on him but dived too early. May not have got him anyway but fuck he's good to watch in full flight, can see why the AB selectors like him.

      The ball didn't go J Savea's way tonight but for such an experienced AB I expected him to impose himself a lot more. As @hydro11 mentioned he's actually been very good this year, I think the break last week was bad for him - the more he plays the better he gets.

      Anyway I'm probably rambling a bit now but there's really nothing between the NZ teams again this year, while SA and Aus go through their struggles our teams are going from strength to strength. There's a heap of great work going on behind the scenes across all of NZ to make that happen - long may it continue.

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      @No-Quarter watching Aso miss Luatua and a couple of other errors defensively showed how much Proctor was missed on defence too.

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        Just finished watching it delayed. It's becoming very clear that if Sanza are really serious about making teams more competitive they will need to implement a strict 1 Barrett quota for all teams. Outside of BB's brilliance that 10 mins with a man down was seemless and critical in the win.

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        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

          another vital error by the Blues

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          @taniwharugby said in Blues v Hurricanes:

          another vital error by the Blues

          Error was they shoukd have taken the 3 ...

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          • R Rembrandt

            Just finished watching it delayed. It's becoming very clear that if Sanza are really serious about making teams more competitive they will need to implement a strict 1 Barrett quota for all teams. Outside of BB's brilliance that 10 mins with a man down was seemless and critical in the win.

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            @Rembrandt said in Blues v Hurricanes:

            Just finished watching it delayed. It's becoming very clear that if Sanza are really serious about making teams more competitive they will need to implement a strict 1 Barrett quota for all teams. Outside of BB's brilliance that 10 mins with a man down was seemless and critical in the win.

            I thought it was clear that Beauden was working in conjunction with the referees to implement this rule?

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              Yeesh. Not going to get through this thread tonight... will try and follow through in the a.m. ...

              Disappointed Blues couldn't won. Rapt that Canes did ... contradictory I know ...

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              • H hydro11

                @Tim said in Blues v Hurricanes:

                @Billy-Tell Goosen is shit, but I'll be ropable if J. Savea is gifted an AB place again this year.

                J.Savea has been good this season, just quiet tonight. Goosen was crap but he is still a very good player.

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                @hydro11 said in Blues v Hurricanes:

                @Tim said in Blues v Hurricanes:

                @Billy-Tell Goosen is shit, but I'll be ropable if J. Savea is gifted an AB place again this year.

                J.Savea has been good this season, just quiet tonight. Goosen was crap but he is still a very good player.

                Goosen was very poor. I just hope this was a one off as he was VG last week. So did he just have a one off bad game starting out his super rugby career (just the wrong mind set after a good game last week) or is he inconsistent. Great one week and crap the next

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                • boobooB booboo

                  @taniwharugby said in Blues v Hurricanes:

                  another vital error by the Blues

                  Error was they shoukd have taken the 3 ...

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                  @booboo said in Blues v Hurricanes:

                  @taniwharugby said in Blues v Hurricanes:

                  another vital error by the Blues

                  Error was they shoukd have taken the 3 ...

                  Which time? Think Parsons was off the field this time wasn't he, so going for points not in blues gameplan?

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                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                    @booboo said in Blues v Hurricanes:

                    @taniwharugby said in Blues v Hurricanes:

                    another vital error by the Blues

                    Error was they shoukd have taken the 3 ...

                    Which time? Think Parsons was off the field this time wasn't he, so going for points not in blues gameplan?

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                    @taniwharugby The only time I can think of was when Barrett got his YC.

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                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                      @booboo said in Blues v Hurricanes:

                      @taniwharugby said in Blues v Hurricanes:

                      another vital error by the Blues

                      Error was they shoukd have taken the 3 ...

                      Which time? Think Parsons was off the field this time wasn't he, so going for points not in blues gameplan?

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                      @taniwharugby said in Blues v Hurricanes:

                      @booboo said in Blues v Hurricanes:

                      @taniwharugby said in Blues v Hurricanes:

                      another vital error by the Blues

                      Error was they shoukd have taken the 3 ...

                      Which time? Think Parsons was off the field this time wasn't he, so going for points not in blues gameplan?

                      think that was the one where BB was carded.

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                      • KirwanK Kirwan

                        Francis looks pissed to be subbed

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                        @Kirwan said in Blues v Hurricanes:

                        Francis looks pissed to be subbed

                        Not sure why. Was reasonably average.

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                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                          gee that ball into the scrum by TJ was no where near crooked, it was straight under the locks feet

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                          @taniwharugby said in Blues v Hurricanes:

                          gee that ball into the scrum by TJ was no where near crooked, it was straight under the locks feet

                          Been a bugbear of mine this season for all teams. Seems worse this year than normal. Some feeds are quite league-esque.

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                          • boobooB booboo

                            @taniwharugby said in Blues v Hurricanes:

                            @booboo said in Blues v Hurricanes:

                            @taniwharugby said in Blues v Hurricanes:

                            another vital error by the Blues

                            Error was they shoukd have taken the 3 ...

                            Which time? Think Parsons was off the field this time wasn't he, so going for points not in blues gameplan?

                            think that was the one where BB was carded.

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                            @booboo yeah I think the points when BB was carded and the following 10 mins was very poor leadership by Parsons, think there may have been a long range shot later when Parsons was off, wasn't an easy one, so didn't take it.

                            @Kirwan i note your predicted line out meltdown didn't eventuate ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                            • GunnerG Gunner

                              Is BB the best ever exponent of the chip n chase?

                              Surely

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                              @Gunner said in Blues v Hurricanes:

                              Is BB the best ever exponent of the chip n chase?

                              Surely

                              He's pretty damn handy at it. As soon as he kicks you know there's trouble as you know he's seen space and has the speed to get there first.

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                              • boobooB booboo

                                @Gunner said in Blues v Hurricanes:

                                Is BB the best ever exponent of the chip n chase?

                                Surely

                                He's pretty damn handy at it. As soon as he kicks you know there's trouble as you know he's seen space and has the speed to get there first.

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                                @booboo and gets the bounce to perfection more often than not too.

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                                • canefanC canefan

                                  @Kirwan said in Blues v Hurricanes:

                                  @Tim said in Blues v Hurricanes:

                                  Every week the Blues make me think that maybe they can do it.

                                  We played well tonight, but BB was the difference.

                                  Sounds cliched but if the blues played almost anyone else tonight they would have won

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                                  @canefan said in Blues v Hurricanes:

                                  @Kirwan said in Blues v Hurricanes:

                                  @Tim said in Blues v Hurricanes:

                                  Every week the Blues make me think that maybe they can do it.

                                  We played well tonight, but BB was the difference.

                                  Sounds cliched but if the blues played almost anyone else tonight they would have won

                                  Yeah what are they the 5th or 6th best team in the comp?

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                                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                    @booboo yeah I think the points when BB was carded and the following 10 mins was very poor leadership by Parsons, think there may have been a long range shot later when Parsons was off, wasn't an easy one, so didn't take it.

                                    @Kirwan i note your predicted line out meltdown didn't eventuate ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                                    @taniwharugby said in Blues v Hurricanes:

                                    @booboo yeah I think the points when BB was carded and the following 10 mins was very poor leadership by Parsons, think there may have been a long range shot later when Parsons was off, wasn't an easy one, so didn't take it.

                                    @Kirwan i note your predicted line out meltdown didn't eventuate ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                    That's because they didn't trust him to throw past 2. A smart way to deal with his throwing issues, but greatly reduces the attacking threat from the lineout. Especially seeing as we maul terribly.

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                                      Pretty sure they threw long more than once after Moulds came on, otherwise they'd of gone to 2 all night given how shit Parsons has been this season.

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                                      • canefanC canefan

                                        Over 1m people surely there could be one very good 10

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                                        @canefan said in Blues v Hurricanes:

                                        Over 1m people surely there could be one very good 10

                                        For once I'll agree that they could do with a different 10. I hate to use the Warriors as an example of what to do but it's the Foran scenario.

                                        The Blues have massive talent. Incredible speed and athleticism throughout. But they're using it wrong.

                                        Play at that end ------> of the field. Then when mistakes happen you've got 70m to cover for them not 35m.

                                        Stop throwing the miracle ball every play. Back your ability to get close and strike.

                                        Said to Mrs boo when she asked "who's going to win?" (She always does.) Said "Canes. Blues have more talent but don't know how to win."

                                        Kinda gutted for the Blues as they're a pretty good team and entertaining to watch and I empathise with a team that just can't find a way to win. They're not hopeless by any stetch. But they're now also rans.

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                                        • TimT Tim

                                          @Billy-Tell Goosen is shit, but I'll be ropeable if J. Savea is gifted an AB place again this year.

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                                          @Tim said in Blues v Hurricanes:

                                          @Billy-Tell Goosen is shit, but I'll be ropeable if J. Savea is gifted an AB place again this year.

                                          Really. Quiet last night but been going ok?

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