Blues v BI Lions
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Perofeta had a bit of a shocker if we're being honest. But he's just a kid on a huge stage for only his second game. It wasn't Cruden test debut level shocker, so that shows something line this can be character building.
Did he try to kick a free kick out on the full? But fortunately missed.
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@pukunui said in Blues v BI Lions:
As for the Lions, what can you say. The pressure has just ramped up. Itoje looked a bit over rated to me but might get better. Hopefully any future refs will ping their 9 if he continues to pick the ball up and place it at the back of the ruck.
He wasn't picking it up he was heeling it out into the open then standing over it. Fucken weird interpretation of the ball not being out of the ruck though. I know most refs now judge on the HB lifting the ball off the ground but clearly out of the ruck is clearly out of the ruck especially when it is the HB that has put it there.
Would have also been good to see some markers on the offside line put down early as being 'clearly onside' not 'possibly offside' but that is a scourge of the game whenever.
@Crucial sorry crucial, he was often raking it back with his hands, and one time he did actually pick up the ball, pull it to the back of the ruck, put it down, organised his forwards (while the ref told the blues to stay back) then picked it up and kicked it. I've seen halfbacks get away with a bit, but today was astounding.
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@Crucial sorry crucial, he was often raking it back with his hands, and one time he did actually pick up the ball, pull it to the back of the ruck, put it down, organised his forwards (while the ref told the blues to stay back) then picked it up and kicked it. I've seen halfbacks get away with a bit, but today was astounding.
@mariner4life I hope Hansen asks for clarification from the French ref for the first test.
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From The Independent
"Head coach Warren Gatland must have been wondering how the Lions were trailing at half-time, given his side had dominated possession and had the advantage in both the scrum and the line-out. That was partly due to the Blues taking their chances where the Lions didn’t, and also through the ineptitude of the match officials to spot a knock-on through a review when Sonny Bill Williams scored on the stroke of half-time."
The hand that knocked the ball back was very clearly a Lions one.
"The Lions would hit back though with good old fashioned Northern Hemisphere rugby. After winning back-to-back penalties for ruck infringements by George Moala and Akira Ioane, Rieko’s brother, Itoje was able to claim quick lineout ball to set-up the driving maul that allowed CJ Stander to power his way over for the try"
Even the UK commentators said they got away with that one, detaching and rejoining then a break off with players in front.
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From The Independent
"Head coach Warren Gatland must have been wondering how the Lions were trailing at half-time, given his side had dominated possession and had the advantage in both the scrum and the line-out. That was partly due to the Blues taking their chances where the Lions didn’t, and also through the ineptitude of the match officials to spot a knock-on through a review when Sonny Bill Williams scored on the stroke of half-time."
The hand that knocked the ball back was very clearly a Lions one.
"The Lions would hit back though with good old fashioned Northern Hemisphere rugby. After winning back-to-back penalties for ruck infringements by George Moala and Akira Ioane, Rieko’s brother, Itoje was able to claim quick lineout ball to set-up the driving maul that allowed CJ Stander to power his way over for the try"
Even the UK commentators said they got away with that one, detaching and rejoining then a break off with players in front.
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There have been some questions during the season asked about Micheal Collins,and may why he always starts at fullback ahead Melani Nanai.
Tonight I thought Micheal Collins was superb at fullback,all the options he took when either choosing to run or kick were spot on,and his high take under pressure leading up to SBWs break for the eventual winning try.
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@Tim Parsons for hooker! Scrafton to take Retallick's vacant spot! GCT shits all over Barrett!
@Bones said in Blues v BI Lions:
@Tim Parsons for hooker! Scrafton to take Retallick's vacant spot! GCT shits all over Barrett!
Ummm ... i know it's you @Bones but this is kind of indicative of how the tour may pay out. If we're thinking the journeymen are awesome...
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@Crucial sorry crucial, he was often raking it back with his hands, and one time he did actually pick up the ball, pull it to the back of the ruck, put it down, organised his forwards (while the ref told the blues to stay back) then picked it up and kicked it. I've seen halfbacks get away with a bit, but today was astounding.
@mariner4life said in Blues v BI Lions:
@Crucial sorry crucial, he was often raking it back with his hands, and one time he did actually pick up the ball, pull it to the back of the ruck, put it down, organised his forwards (while the ref told the blues to stay back) then picked it up and kicked it. I've seen halfbacks get away with a bit, but today was astounding.
Yes I clearly saw this. Seemed odd to me at the time. Almost lucky not to get pinged for a knock on.
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There have been some questions during the season asked about Micheal Collins,and may why he always starts at fullback ahead Melani Nanai.
Tonight I thought Micheal Collins was superb at fullback,all the options he took when either choosing to run or kick were spot on,and his high take under pressure leading up to SBWs break for the eventual winning try.
@Steven-Harris said in Blues v BI Lions:
There have been some questions during the season asked about Micheal Collins,and may why he always starts at fullback ahead Nemani Nanai.
Tonight I thought Micheal Collins was superb at fullback,all the options he took when either choosing to run or kick were spot on,and his high take under pressure leading up to SBWs break for the eventual winning try.
It is Melani not Nemani.
Still not seeing these superb things Collins did other than not fucking up. The take of that high ball was the best moment i can remember. That is hardly worth the praise he is getting. -
@mariner4life said in Blues v BI Lions:
@Crucial sorry crucial, he was often raking it back with his hands, and one time he did actually pick up the ball, pull it to the back of the ruck, put it down, organised his forwards (while the ref told the blues to stay back) then picked it up and kicked it. I've seen halfbacks get away with a bit, but today was astounding.
Yes I clearly saw this. Seemed odd to me at the time. Almost lucky not to get pinged for a knock on.
@Catogrande almost lucky? That should have been the result
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@Crucial sorry crucial, he was often raking it back with his hands, and one time he did actually pick up the ball, pull it to the back of the ruck, put it down, organised his forwards (while the ref told the blues to stay back) then picked it up and kicked it. I've seen halfbacks get away with a bit, but today was astounding.
@mariner4life said in Blues v BI Lions:
@Crucial sorry crucial, he was often raking it back with his hands, and one time he did actually pick up the ball, pull it to the back of the ruck, put it down, organised his forwards (while the ref told the blues to stay back) then picked it up and kicked it. I've seen halfbacks get away with a bit, but today was astounding.
Ok. I noticed that other ones more. Guess I'm immune to the way refs allow the halfback to handle the ball.
I agree with you though. If you dig in with your hands it should be made to be played immediately. -
@Crucial sorry crucial, he was often raking it back with his hands, and one time he did actually pick up the ball, pull it to the back of the ruck, put it down, organised his forwards (while the ref told the blues to stay back) then picked it up and kicked it. I've seen halfbacks get away with a bit, but today was astounding.
@mariner4life said in Blues v BI Lions:
@Crucial sorry crucial, he was often raking it back with his hands, and one time he did actually pick up the ball, pull it to the back of the ruck, put it down, organised his forwards (while the ref told the blues to stay back) then picked it up and kicked it. I've seen halfbacks get away with a bit, but today was astounding.
There was one particularly bad one in the Lions 22 where SBW I think wanted to come around. That is probably the same one you are referring to.
I have a vague memory of one of the NH 9's doing it a lot in a game recently. Possibly the Wales-AB series last year or at some point on the EOYT or in some NH club rugby. Pretty sure it was the same guy. Just as blatent and just as ignored by the ref that time. -
@Bones said in Blues v BI Lions:
@Tim Parsons for hooker! Scrafton to take Retallick's vacant spot! GCT shits all over Barrett!
Ummm ... i know it's you @Bones but this is kind of indicative of how the tour may pay out. If we're thinking the journeymen are awesome...
@booboo said in Blues v BI Lions:
@Bones said in Blues v BI Lions:
@Tim Parsons for hooker! Scrafton to take Retallick's vacant spot! GCT shits all over Barrett!
Ummm ... i know it's you @Bones but this is kind of indicative of how the tour may pay out. If we're thinking the journeymen are awesome...
Not sure what you're saying?
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RugbyRefs have a discussion going on Webbs ruck habits
http://www.rugbyrefs.com/showthread.php?20376-Rhys-Webb-ball-positioning&p=331804#post331804
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From The Independent
"Head coach Warren Gatland must have been wondering how the Lions were trailing at half-time, given his side had dominated possession and had the advantage in both the scrum and the line-out. That was partly due to the Blues taking their chances where the Lions didn’t, and also through the ineptitude of the match officials to spot a knock-on through a review when Sonny Bill Williams scored on the stroke of half-time."
The hand that knocked the ball back was very clearly a Lions one.
"The Lions would hit back though with good old fashioned Northern Hemisphere rugby. After winning back-to-back penalties for ruck infringements by George Moala and Akira Ioane, Rieko’s brother, Itoje was able to claim quick lineout ball to set-up the driving maul that allowed CJ Stander to power his way over for the try"
Even the UK commentators said they got away with that one, detaching and rejoining then a break off with players in front.
@Crucial said in Blues v BI Lions:
From The Independent
"Head coach Warren Gatland must have been wondering how the Lions were trailing at half-time, given his side had dominated possession and had the advantage in both the scrum and the line-out. That was partly due to the Blues taking their chances where the Lions didn’t, and also through the ineptitude of the match officials to spot a knock-on through a review when Sonny Bill Williams scored on the stroke of half-time."
The hand that knocked the ball back was very clearly a Lions one.
"The Lions would hit back though with good old fashioned Northern Hemisphere rugby. After winning back-to-back penalties for ruck infringements by George Moala and Akira Ioane, Rieko’s brother, Itoje was able to claim quick lineout ball to set-up the driving maul that allowed CJ Stander to power his way over for the try"
Even the UK commentators said they got away with that one, detaching and rejoining then a break off with players in front.
I maintain ... a knock on taken in front and a maul sacked/collapsed.. well evens
And that call on the try was right
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@booboo said in Blues v BI Lions:
@Bones said in Blues v BI Lions:
@Tim Parsons for hooker! Scrafton to take Retallick's vacant spot! GCT shits all over Barrett!
Ummm ... i know it's you @Bones but this is kind of indicative of how the tour may pay out. If we're thinking the journeymen are awesome...
Not sure what you're saying?
@Bones said in Blues v BI Lions:
@booboo said in Blues v BI Lions:
@Bones said in Blues v BI Lions:
@Tim Parsons for hooker! Scrafton to take Retallick's vacant spot! GCT shits all over Barrett!
Ummm ... i know it's you @Bones but this is kind of indicative of how the tour may pay out. If we're thinking the journeymen are awesome...
Not sure what you're saying?
Sorry am piddly.
It appears you're saying the journeymen in NZ rugby are good enough to be ABs. And therefore taking the p out of the Lions.
In doing so I'm suggesting you're suggesting perhaps the Lions may be in for a tough tour.
Yes? No?
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That was a pretty cool night for Blues rugby.
They haven't exactly been known for their culture or a team that plays for each other before Tana arrived but I think the club has come a long way in that regard in the last couple of years.
The haka summed it up. While they have a lot to improve on, The Blues have some spine about them now. They seem to be a proper team that play for each other and the region.
Known as a club that has let talented locals flourish for other teams, excellent to see a lot of local stars performing well for the Blues, including a high profile returnee SBW.
It was a huge occasion with a huge crowd and the Blues responded.
A famous Blues victory - and their havent been too many of them in recent years.
Blues fans can hold their heads high and feel proud of their team. I wonder how many kids will be running around in their back yard pretending to be Rieko in the next few days.
