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  • PaekakboyzP Offline
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    sweet as <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/rugby/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':yes:' /><br />
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    I guess we have to take it with a grain of salt as everyone has 'the' way to approach lifting etc. But the more you read the broader understanding you get - and there are always common themes.<br />
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    Checking on form is a good idea. Lots of sites/articles talk about doing a review once every couple of months to make sure you haven't slipped into bad habits. Really impt as you progress to heavier weights too.<br />
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    I'm chasing 200 1RM in both squat and DL - a looooong way off but getting there is the 'fun' part lol! I just don't want to reach those goals with awful form or even worse injure myself. It's got to be functional strength too, not to have big guns (although that is cool!) or be super ripped. I like being able to be active, pick stuff up and not worry about breaking myself.

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    Would love to hit 200kg too oneday. Deadlift I can see happening....squat not so much!<br />
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    Re form check - I often will do a few sets standing 90 degrees on to the mirrors. Can see how straight the old back is quite easily then.

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    apparently tilting your head back keeps your back straight - if you drop your chin you are more likely to collapse through the back. Just like in the scrum - if you keep your eyes up then you back would stay straight!!

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    Arms and shoulders smashed........yeah boy!<br />
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    Always enjoy my friday workout. There is just something about it...<br />
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    5mins row and then straight in to it<br />
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    OHP (barbell) - 10 x bar, 10 x bar then 3 x 35kg, 3 x 40kg and 5 x 45kg, 10 x bar<br />
    Assistance work was more OHP but this time dumbell and super setted with chinups (so narrow grip) 4 sets of 10 there.<br />
    Then joined the abs class for 10mins of ab destruction - crunches, some twisty crunch things, reverse crunches, some weird hold, and prone holds.<br />
    Back to the weights and 3 sets of 8 heavy DB bicep curls (seated) supersetted with tricep extensions. Then ez bar bicep curls (2 sets wide grip, 2 sets narrow grip) super setted with tricep pull downs. And 2 sets of dips to finished. Arms are raging...

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    Oh yeah, found this article last night http://www.simplyshredded.com/mega-feature-layne-norton-training-series-full-powerhypertrophy-routine-updated-2011.html<br />
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    Looks a good combo of power lifting and hypertrophy emphasis

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    Squat squat squattering....always a good start to the week when squats are involved.<br />
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    First day of week 3 so low reps on the main lifts this week.<br />
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    5mins on the bike as warmup and dam it was cold - took a while to get warm enough to visit the squat rack.<br />
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    Squats - 10 x bar, 8 x 60kg and then 5/3/1 sets of 5 x 90kg, 3 x 102.5kg and then 3 x 115kg. Did another 3 x 115kg then dropped it back for 2 sets of 5 x 100kg. Finished with a couple of sets of10 @ 70kg nice and deep.<br />
    Assistance work as usual was 4 sets of 12 rep hamstring curls and 4 sets of 15 rep on the standing calf raises.

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    JK thats a pretty cool article and one I'm gonna take on board cos basically I am the kind of guy who wants to lift as heavy as possible while looking strong ( but not ridiculously so )<br />
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    Personally I equate some of this sort of stuff to say Rene Ranger vs Rudi Wulf. Both look strong, both are strong. However I'd say that whilst Wulf is a bloody good tackle buster ( he seems better at this since his returns from France ) Ranger is better and whilst Ranger looks strong Wulf looks stronger ( if any of this makes sense, ie Wulf looks to have the bigger more ripped guns )<br />
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    People do get a bit surprised when I say I can deadlift 215-220 but being pretty long in the back and arms can help supposedly. In terms of form I'd say it's probably not the best but I guess my reckoning is if I can do so and not be doubled over in agony the next day then I must be doing something right.

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    Good one mate. I will prob try something similar soon but I'm gonna do another cycle of 5/3/1 first but this time without the added volume and instread do another 3 sets on the core lifts of 3-5 reps at a decent weight.<br />
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    And yep hear what ya saying. The Wulf vs Ranger analogy makes perfect sense. Ranger has the strength but Wulf the physique.

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    But in saying that Wulf ain't exactly Terry Wright in his play and Ranger don't quite look like Piri Weepu ie both are strong and look strong, just not the same ratio. Mortlock was another who whilst being a big munter played stronger than he looked....Sam Tuitupou was definitely an even more extreme case, how someone 85kg or whatever played like that was kinda freakish. Compare that to Rueben Thorne who despite being a sizable campaigner had a habit of falling over before the tackler had even hit him. <br />
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    Keen to give this type of workout a go though, funny really, you feel "worked out" either way when doing weights but it is definitely a different kind of rooted that you feel after each type ie more sharp pain after lots of reps.

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    Yeah not much in it really just slightly different ratios etc.<br />
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    I reckon Mortlock looked like a guy who could do a decent deadlift!

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    Rigtio, chest day of week 3.<br />
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    5 mins row nice and easy and then 2 sets of 20 pressups to get the chest pumping.<br />
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    Bench press - 10 x bar, 10 x 40kg, then 5/3/1 sets of 5 x 60kg, 3 x 70kg and 3 x 77.5kg. Did another 3 x 77.5kg and then 3 sets of 10 at 60kg supersetted with DB flies.<br />
    Assistance work was 4 sets of dumbell rows, 3 sets of tricep extensions and 3 sets of dips.<br />
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    Lowlight of the morning was when my ear buds gave out on the right hand side so have had to order some new ones. Lasted me well there as use them 5 days a week in the gym and have had them for about 18months now. Good value for $30.

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    we finish our chest off at the moment with 2 sets of 15 partial reps, just the bottom portion of the movement, blasted out as quick as you can. is good, you go great guns and then over about 2 reps you just drain the tank! you need a spotter on this one, as once you're done, you're DONE!

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    Great workout this morning! Deadlifts and champions league...mean as.<br />
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    1km row for warmup and then a few wide grip pullups. Nothing too strenuous but 3 sets of 5, 8, 8 to get things pumping.<br />
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    Deadlifts - 10 x 70kg, 3 x 100kg and then 5/3/1 sets of 5 x 110kg, 3 x 125kg, and 5 x 140kg. Prob could have pushed out a few more reps on my last max set but instead of my usual high reps / lower weight sets that follow I planned to do a couple of heavier sets and nailed 3 x 150kg and 2 x 160kg which were both PBs for me. Never deadlifted that much before and felt great! Did a set of 8 x 100kg to finish. <br />
    Assistance work - 3 sets of leg raises, 4 sets (10reps) of lat pull downs and 3 sets of hyper extensions.

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    Friday - shoulders, biceps and abs...done and dusted<br />
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    Running a bit late on time so only a 500m row this morning but good pace 1.40 so panting a bit straight away<br />
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    Overhead press - 10 x bar, 10 x bar and then 5/3/1 sets of 5 x 35kg, 3 x 40kg and 3 x 45kg before another 10 x bar. Still see OHP as a real weak point so gonna focus on this alot more.<br />
    Assistance work - 4 sets of 10 rep military press with each set supersetted with 10 pullups. The did the Friday abs class (usual stuff) before 4 sets of upright cable row and 4 sets of EZ bar bicep curls supersetted with some heavy as tricep push downs.<br />
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    Pretty short workout but felt good.

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  • PaekakboyzP Offline
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    standing overhead press? I find I arch my back when I'm fatiguing, putting a slight bend in your knees can help you straighten out again.<br />
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    Two things have helped my OHP - Arnie shoulder press and seated OHP (in a squat cage). The OHP in the cage lets you crank up the weight as it's just straight up and down. Arnie shoulder press is my fav shoulder exercise at the moment. Real easy to get the form right and I find you can load a bit more weight than the standard shoulder press with dumbbells.<br />
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    Sounds like things are cranking along nicely mate - great work on those DL lifts!

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    I do my dumbell press arnie style too mate. Probably should have written arnie press rather than military but meant that.<br />
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    Will try the seated OHP - do you use smith machine or just raise up the squat safety bars and crank it up off them? I always have trouble getting the barbell up there in the first place, even with 45kg!

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  • PaekakboyzP Offline
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    ah! with the seated one I use the rack that has the bar on sliders (for lack of a better explanation). Is that a smith machine? slide the seat into is and get stuck in. Not having to stabilise it makes a big difference - you can concentrate on the lift plus you can bail out easily! and safely lol

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    SOunds like the smith machine - the barbell is basically guided and on a fixed plane. Its pretty shit for most things due to the path not being natural (ie for squats, bench etc) but not bad for doing shoulder press from what I hear. Might be a good way of upping the weight

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    Yep, hope you were seeing stars after those deadlifts my good man, a sure sign you were belting it out !

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    I wasn't actually. Felt pretty dam good and have felt much worse from what were big lifts for me mid last year.

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