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  • KirwanK Offline
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    Kirwan
    wrote on last edited by
    #691

    It's interesting, I've done two workouts on it and I can definitely feel the stimulant effect about ten to fifteen minutes later. I've had none of face tingling, heart palpitations some people reported on it so that's good <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/rugby/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /><br />
    <br />
    In terms of the performance, one of the workouts was a repeat so I was able to directly compare the results.<br />
    <br />
    One of the problems I've had with improving my performance is completing unbroken sets. This particular workout was five rounds of 400m run and 42.5kg Overhead Squats x 15. I've never been able to complete the OH Squats unbroken, but this time I was did the first four rounds unbroken and got 11 on the last set. Just that change alone saved me 1.37secs off my previous best time (running is still and issue for me, achilles and calves have to be very warmed up).<br />
    <br />
    Also have trouble putting large sets of reps together for things like pullups during workouts when I'm fatigued. Yesterday I managed 11 and 10 and it didn't feel too bad, and that was during a monster 40min WOD.<br />
    <br />
    So subjectively, I can see that the claim about increasing reps could be true. We'll see after a couple of weeks of this.<br />
    <br />
    Tastes good, so it's not a chore to take and just the energy boost effect is useful on it's own. I guess that it will help with the metabolism as well.

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    Kirwan
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    #692

    At my weekly weigh-in I'm down to 80.7kg, down from 81.8kg last Monday. Close to my second goal of under 80kg, and definitely setting the third target to be 78kg.<br />
    <br />
    Will re-assess at 78kg and see how much is left, it would be nice to get to 77kg and have that nice round of ten kilos lost from the start of this process. But we'll see.

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    JK
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    #693

    Sounds all pretty positive mate. You may find the effects of it wear off over time depending on how often you use it.<br />
    <br />
    If its just 3 days a week (say Mon/wed/friday) then it should still give you a good kick but if using it say daily you might find you become a bit immune to it and require more (say 1.5 scoops) to get the same impact as the first few times you took it.<br />
    <br />
    And some people dont really get the beta alanine tingles. I'm like that too. Doesnt mean its not working though.

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    Kirwan
    wrote on last edited by
    #694

    [quote name='JK' timestamp='1358820242' post='338945']<br />
    Sounds all pretty positive mate. You may find the effects of it wear off over time depending on how often you use it.<br />
    <br />
    If its just 3 days a week (say Mon/wed/friday) then it should still give you a good kick but if using it say daily you might find you become a bit immune to it and require more (say 1.5 scoops) to get the same impact as the first few times you took it.<br />
    <br />
    And some people dont really get the beta alanine tingles. I'm like that too. Doesnt mean its not working though.<br />
    [/quote]<br />
    <br />
    It'll be no more than five times a week, but more usually four times a week. I won't bother for any extra cardio work like running or rowing.

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    JK
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    #695

    Would expect some build up of tolerance then over time.<br />
    <br />
    I was using some stuff called Hyper FX by BSN which was awesome. Started with half a scoop and it was really really noticeable. Ended up using 1.5 scoops by the time i finished the tub. Still, it was very good for someone like me who is quite stim tolerant. Definitely my favourite pre-workout.

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    Kirwan
    wrote on last edited by
    #696

    [quote name='JK' timestamp='1358825068' post='338962']<br />
    Would expect some build up of tolerance then over time.<br />
    <br />
    I was using some stuff called Hyper FX by BSN which was awesome. Started with half a scoop and it was really really noticeable. Ended up using 1.5 scoops by the time i finished the tub. Still, it was very good for someone like me who is quite stim tolerant. Definitely my favourite pre-workout.<br />
    [/quote]<br />
    <br />
    When you finish a tub, do you cycle off it to lose that tolerance?

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  • JKJ Offline
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    JK
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    #697

    I usually try a different product as different pre-workouts have different effects etc but not having it for a few weeks would be even better. Having said that, I usualy have a couple of the go so it seems like they last me for a while.<br />
    <br />
    Personally I try not to use it for every workout. Pretty much always take something for legs day and something with a bit of pump on Fridays (as wear a t-shirt at work). For cardio or circuits I usually just go with a good strong coffee.<br />
    <br />
    Just bought some Rage and more protein from bbnz. Looking forward to trying it.

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  • BartManB Offline
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    BartMan
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    #698

    probably pay to cycle it. I just use it on weights days (4 days a week). And then pre comp we stop taking it a few weeks out. THe leanre we get and the less real food we get the more you notice when you don't take it. Just like a good rugby player, you don't notice it until it's not there!

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  • KirwanK Offline
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    Kirwan
    wrote on last edited by
    #699

    Is two weeks enough to cycle off (while I'm picking your brains). Planning this out, seems to adding a benefit so far.<br />
    <br />
    Had the superkid doing the coaching last night and he's evil. I was blowing after the warmup, started feeling the dreaded puke feeling after the WOD, and he always does a "finisher". Last night that was 10 x burpee pullups, 10 x pullup alternated with toes to bar, then the same again with 20 reps...

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    BartMan
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    #700

    don't really know, but would think so - have not really looked into it to be honest, but maybe 4 week on 4 weeks off - there must be a standard 'on off' when cycling any supplements. Which I don't do!!

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    JK
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    #701

    Burpee pullups....sounds a nice combo. Do you do them widegrip or just chins? 20 of those suckers would be tough!

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    Kirwan
    wrote on last edited by
    #702

    [quote name='JK' timestamp='1358996557' post='339400']<br />
    Burpee pullups....sounds a nice combo. Do you do them widegrip or just chins? 20 of those suckers would be tough!<br />
    [/quote]<br />
    <br />
    I did overhand this time, last time I did these (50 for time) I used a mixed grip so i didn't have to look for the bar, was much faster. Forgot this time.<br />
    <br />
    Alternating the pullups with a toes to bar was a co-ordination challenge, that's for sure.

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    Kirwan
    wrote on last edited by
    #703

    Got inspired by TR and Keas training logs, so went for a run today. Decided to "run around the block" with the block being Paraparaumu. Figured it was 10-11kms and wouldn't take too long. <br />
    <br />
    Ended up taking 94mins and was 14kms. Was going at a good clip until the last 3kms when the heat and the empty stomach slowed me down to a crawl. First five KMs felt like a breeze and I wish I had timed it. (JK, the Rage lasted almost exactly an hour, I could practically feel it stop working on a dime)<br />
    <br />
    Got what I wanted from it though, also the longest run I've done since the 90s <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/rugby/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />

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  • PaekakboyzP Offline
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    Paekakboyz
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    #704

    14km is a good effort Kirwan!! Hmm sounds like this Rage stuff really does give you a boost, you should see how far you can cover in an hour with and without taking Rage. I wonder how much difference there would be!!

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  • JKJ Offline
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    JK
    wrote on last edited by
    #705

    Solid effort mate. Had a few runs like that last Xmas. Went out for a planned 30mins runs but just kept going fo almost 2 hours. Had been a very long time since I had run that far

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  • KirwanK Offline
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    Kirwan
    wrote on last edited by
    #706

    Am loving this Rage stuff, have seen a noticeable improvement in my higher rep range. Case and point, today's workout of Grace; 30 x 60kg Clean and Jerk for time.<br />
    <br />
    My previous best for this was 3.04min, today I got 2:51min, and I should have got around 2:40, but the weight fell off on the last fricking rep. (My fault for how I was dropping it, note for next time)<br />
    <br />
    Still feeling the kick, but am more interested in the performance increase, great tip guys.

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  • JKJ Offline
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    JK
    wrote on last edited by
    #707

    Yeah buddy! That is what its all about.<br />
    <br />
    Will be interesting to see how you go when you next do Grace without the Rage.

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  • BartManB Offline
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    BartMan
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    #708

    Hey K - tell me that it's good stuff on facebook - will be good for my sponsors - "hey Bart, this Rage stuff you recomended is wicked" sort of shite. PLease and thank you, and I promise to not forward on any more cross fit slating pics for the rest of the day ;-)<br />
    <br />
    and I'll have to try it before a cardio session - I have only been using it before weights. Maybe on my next cycle!

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  • KirwanK Offline
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    Kirwan
    wrote on last edited by
    #709

    Ha no problem, will be genuine too. Already have two guys in the box looking to try it.<br />
    <br />
    Had a real test of it today, workout was "White"; Five rounds for time of 3 x 15ft Rope Climb, 10 x Toes to Bar, 21 x Walking Lunges (20kg plate overhead), 400m Run.<br />
    <br />
    Was still going well at the end, trainer commented that I looked strong on the run (as opposed to the normal, shuffle, slog, get to the end gasping run I normally do). So fitness, weight, and this pre-workout shake are all coming together nicely this month.<br />
    <br />
    Open starts in 4/5 weeks, so am keen to improve on last year and measure the progress.

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  • BartManB Offline
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    BartMan
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    #710

    when they order ask them to say that Jason bartley recomended it etc. Can't be bad for me!! maybe!! and rope climbs - that is exactly what it sounds like, climb a rope up 15 ft?

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