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Blues v Jaguares

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  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

    Apisai had a stormer for the B team last week!!

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    @taniwharugby said in Blues v Jaguares:

    Apisai had a stormer for the B team last week!!

    Haha said by no one who actually watched that game.

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      Can all the blame be placed on the Coach? What about the coach before him? Or Before him?

      Even if those coaches are all incompetent, why were they placed into the position? Do they simply interview well?

      At what point will everyone look to place blame higher up? Surely Auckland have the $$ for a proven coach?

      My 2c..

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        Well, in the first half I felt a bit guilty about not heading down in the farking terrible weather. But then the Blues lost the Blues way - shit skills, terrible set piece, tactical ineptitude and just all round shitness.

        Positives:
        only 7 games left in the season.

        Fark me, if this season doesn't drive a full blown cleanout in the organisation, I don't know what will. Coach must take responsibiltiy for the team being prepared for lineouts and scrums, and having some tactics that get followed. Effort was there at times, but it's just disjointed, and opposition just wait for us to fark up and then kill us. Damnit.

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        • SiamS Siam

          @african-monkey No one's defending anyone.

          The truth is your shit club has been a fucking disgrace for many years now, long before umaga.

          Fans continue to point with veracity always at 1 or 2 individuals as if that magic will fix it.

          Highlanders were down a decade ago and pulled themselves out of it through genuine humility and change. The blues just lurch from new supercoach to fingerpointing.

          Rinse and repeat

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          @siam said in Blues v Jaguares:

          @african-monkey No one's defending anyone.

          The truth is your shit club has been a fucking disgrace for many years now, long before umaga.

          Fans continue to point with veracity always at 1 or 2 individuals as if that magic will fix it.

          Highlanders were down a decade ago and pulled themselves out of it through genuine humility and change. The blues just lurch from new supercoach to fingerpointing.

          Rinse and repeat

          And they got out of it with a competent coach that set the culture, selected smartly and got the most out of their players.

          Tana has taken an average side that lost some close games and turned them into a joke.

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          • StargazerS Stargazer

            Yes, the Blues were awful, but I think we need to give credit to the Jaguares as well. They were the better team and played to the conditions well. They fully deserved that win. If they'd converted their penalties into points, they would have denied the Blues the bonus point.

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            @stargazer said in Blues v Jaguares:

            Yes, the Blues were awful, but I think we need to give credit to the Jaguares as well. They were the better team and played to the conditions well. They fully deserved that win. If they'd converted their penalties into points, they would have denied the Blues the bonus point.

            I think if it was dry, the Blues defence would’ve been cut to pieces and the score would’ve been worse for them. That try the Jags scored down the left wing showed how poorly organised in defence they were (are).

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            • SiamS Siam

              @african-monkey No one's defending anyone.

              The truth is your shit club has been a fucking disgrace for many years now, long before umaga.

              Fans continue to point with veracity always at 1 or 2 individuals as if that magic will fix it.

              Highlanders were down a decade ago and pulled themselves out of it through genuine humility and change. The blues just lurch from new supercoach to fingerpointing.

              Rinse and repeat

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              @siam We'll moan at whatever the fuck we want until things change we have every right to we don't need some anti-Auckland Highlanders fan telling us what we should and shouldn't moan at. Umaga is failing to deliver after 3 years in change and we're not happy.

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              • PNP PN

                Can all the blame be placed on the Coach? What about the coach before him? Or Before him?

                Even if those coaches are all incompetent, why were they placed into the position? Do they simply interview well?

                At what point will everyone look to place blame higher up? Surely Auckland have the $$ for a proven coach?

                My 2c..

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                @pn I actually agree with you,we heard the message that obviously came from the coaches at halftime,when a game plan is not followed it brings into question leadership..and on that count,it was there for everybody to see

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                  Blues need to buy in a hardened career coach who has had to work his arse off for any success he’s ever had. I don’t know who that is, but get them and pay them what ever the hell they want.

                  Not a name.

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                  • KirwanK Kirwan

                    @siam said in Blues v Jaguares:

                    @african-monkey No one's defending anyone.

                    The truth is your shit club has been a fucking disgrace for many years now, long before umaga.

                    Fans continue to point with veracity always at 1 or 2 individuals as if that magic will fix it.

                    Highlanders were down a decade ago and pulled themselves out of it through genuine humility and change. The blues just lurch from new supercoach to fingerpointing.

                    Rinse and repeat

                    And they got out of it with a competent coach that set the culture, selected smartly and got the most out of their players.

                    Tana has taken an average side that lost some close games and turned them into a joke.

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                    @kirwan said in Blues v Jaguares:

                    Tana has taken an average side that lost some close games and turned them into a joke.

                    Tana is a reason we're losing, but he is far from the only reason. Changing him won't fix our problems. There is a shitload of change needed.

                    What shits me more than anything, is when we started going downhill, there was an outpouring from ex players and supporters to help and stem the tide. That goodwill has been killed off, and we're left with an absolute farking wreck of a team and organisation.

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                    • PNP PN

                      Can all the blame be placed on the Coach? What about the coach before him? Or Before him?

                      Even if those coaches are all incompetent, why were they placed into the position? Do they simply interview well?

                      At what point will everyone look to place blame higher up? Surely Auckland have the $$ for a proven coach?

                      My 2c..

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                      @pn said in Blues v Jaguares:

                      Can all the blame be placed on the Coach? What about the coach before him? Or Before him?

                      Even if those coaches are all incompetent, why were they placed into the position? Do they simply interview well?

                      At what point will everyone look to place blame higher up? Surely Auckland have the $$ for a proven coach?

                      My 2c..

                      We have been calling for the CEO and the board to go as well. They are the ones hiring celebrity coaches woefully out of their depth.

                      But that doesn’t excuse Tana’s crap selections, recruitment or coaching.

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                      • KirwanK Kirwan

                        @siam said in Blues v Jaguares:

                        @african-monkey No one's defending anyone.

                        The truth is your shit club has been a fucking disgrace for many years now, long before umaga.

                        Fans continue to point with veracity always at 1 or 2 individuals as if that magic will fix it.

                        Highlanders were down a decade ago and pulled themselves out of it through genuine humility and change. The blues just lurch from new supercoach to fingerpointing.

                        Rinse and repeat

                        And they got out of it with a competent coach that set the culture, selected smartly and got the most out of their players.

                        Tana has taken an average side that lost some close games and turned them into a joke.

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                        @kirwan No it started higher up in the organisation than that, and was most certainly not a magic fix of new coach, new dynasty

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                        • SiamS Siam

                          @kirwan No it started higher up in the organisation than that, and was most certainly not a magic fix of new coach, new dynasty

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                          @siam said in Blues v Jaguares:

                          @kirwan No it started higher up in the organisation than that, and was most certainly not a magic fix of new coach, new dynasty

                          Coaches that succeed quickly, usually have a solid back office to work with.

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                          • SiamS Siam

                            @kirwan No it started higher up in the organisation than that, and was most certainly not a magic fix of new coach, new dynasty

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                            @siam said in Blues v Jaguares:

                            @kirwan No it started higher up in the organisation than that, and was most certainly not a magic fix of new coach, new dynasty

                            See my post above.

                            The celebrity coaches are definitely a symptom of a bigger problem. That’s why we are talking about people like Gatland that can bully useless CEOs who want to hang out with ex-All Blacks.

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                              @siam We'll moan at whatever the fuck we want until things change we have every right to we don't need some anti-Auckland Highlanders fan telling us what we should and shouldn't moan at. Umaga is failing to deliver after 3 years in change and we're not happy.

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                              @african-monkey said in Blues v Jaguares:

                              @siam We'll moan at whatever the fuck we want until things change we have every right to we don't need some anti-Auckland Highlanders fan telling us what we should and shouldn't moan at. Umaga is failing to deliver after 3 years in change and we're not happy.

                              Yeah, fair enough mate, keep pissing and moaning. Fill yer boots. I mean it's worked well for 5 years now

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                              • SiamS Siam

                                @african-monkey said in Blues v Jaguares:

                                @siam We'll moan at whatever the fuck we want until things change we have every right to we don't need some anti-Auckland Highlanders fan telling us what we should and shouldn't moan at. Umaga is failing to deliver after 3 years in change and we're not happy.

                                Yeah, fair enough mate, keep pissing and moaning. Fill yer boots. I mean it's worked well for 5 years now

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                                @siam said in Blues v Jaguares:

                                @african-monkey said in Blues v Jaguares:

                                @siam We'll moan at whatever the fuck we want until things change we have every right to we don't need some anti-Auckland Highlanders fan telling us what we should and shouldn't moan at. Umaga is failing to deliver after 3 years in change and we're not happy.

                                Yeah, fair enough mate, keep pissing and moaning. Fill yer boots. I mean it's worked well for 15 years now

                                fixed that for ya

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                                • KirwanK Kirwan

                                  @pn said in Blues v Jaguares:

                                  Can all the blame be placed on the Coach? What about the coach before him? Or Before him?

                                  Even if those coaches are all incompetent, why were they placed into the position? Do they simply interview well?

                                  At what point will everyone look to place blame higher up? Surely Auckland have the $$ for a proven coach?

                                  My 2c..

                                  We have been calling for the CEO and the board to go as well. They are the ones hiring celebrity coaches woefully out of their depth.

                                  But that doesn’t excuse Tana’s crap selections, recruitment or coaching.

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                                  @kirwan said in Blues v Jaguares:

                                  We have been calling for the CEO and the board to go as well.

                                  Correct. As well as several players.

                                  Yet the fiction about the coach getting all the blame keeps getting repeated

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                                  • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                                    Very little will change while Redman is in charge.

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                                    @donsteppa Yup. He's a fucking tool. If they actually want to take a long hard look at when the rot set in, look at the Blues before and after Redman took charge. I don't know how he can keep a straight face when spouting shit like 'progress is being made' when it's quite fucking clear to all and sundry that a once proud franchise with an enviable record is right down the toilet. And while I don't think Tana was anywhere near ready to take on a Super side, let alone one with such visible issues, it's not just his fault. Yes injuries. But also really rubbish recruitment and selection. Shit culture. Shit board. And double fucking shit CEO.

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                                      This popped up in my Facebook feed from 6 years ago - seems appropriate

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                                      • SiamS Siam

                                        @african-monkey said in Blues v Jaguares:

                                        @siam We'll moan at whatever the fuck we want until things change we have every right to we don't need some anti-Auckland Highlanders fan telling us what we should and shouldn't moan at. Umaga is failing to deliver after 3 years in change and we're not happy.

                                        Yeah, fair enough mate, keep pissing and moaning. Fill yer boots. I mean it's worked well for 5 years now

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                                        @siam said in Blues v Jaguares:

                                        @african-monkey said in Blues v Jaguares:

                                        @siam We'll moan at whatever the fuck we want until things change we have every right to we don't need some anti-Auckland Highlanders fan telling us what we should and shouldn't moan at. Umaga is failing to deliver after 3 years in change and we're not happy.

                                        Yeah, fair enough mate, keep pissing and moaning. Fill yer boots. I mean it's worked well for 5 years now

                                        What do you expect Blues fans to do after a night/season like that?

                                        It reminds me painfully of when Kevin Schuler was in charge of the Steamers...

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                                          Well. That's Tana fucked then.

                                          Really poor looking team.

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