Crusaders vs. Hurricanes
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@chris-b said in Crusaders vs. Hurricanes:
@canefan Build it for your players!
Maybe a roof over the players, but don't cover the seating! Leave those bureaucrats in the rain - do them good...!
The weather is a home field advantage. Maybe a stadium like Hisense in Melbourne. All stands covered but the field is totally open to the cold and rain
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@canefan said in Crusaders vs. Hurricanes:
@antipodean said in Crusaders vs. Hurricanes:
@damo said in Crusaders vs. Hurricanes:
@canefan said in Crusaders vs. Hurricanes:
On a night like this, where the Crusaders showed mastery of the conditions, why would Christchurch want to build a covered stadium and turn every game into a dry weather track meet?
Probably so they can get a crowd of 30k rather than 10k.
You think there's 20k travelling fans?
At least there'll be no more of this shit
Have you analysed their flame thrower and firework budget? Even in they build an indoor stadium I'd rate the chances of a fog final occurring again.
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@canefan said in Crusaders vs. Hurricanes:
@canerbry said in Crusaders vs. Hurricanes:
@canefan But will it stop opposition fans whinging like Poms?
Correct, great self-awareness there Canefan.
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Well, a result I didn't expect -regardless of the rain. A night for dominating territory and smothering defence and the Crusaders did that well.
The rain shut down the Canes backs and the Crusaders had superior tactics. Mo'unga was excellent. Big Seta was actually to the forefront in illustrating the necessary tactics by grubbering through while on attack - his execution wasn't as good as his tactical appreciation. Hall was very good and Goodhue was excellent. Forwards just ground it out as required. Very good effort.
Major worry is another bunch of players hobbling off - hope we'll get some reinforcements back next week - otherwise we might struggle to field a team vs the Chiefs.
Crusaders now five points ahead of the Canes, but they have a game in hand. Advantage Crusaders, but only a very narrow one.
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@canerbry said in Crusaders vs. Hurricanes:
@canefan said in Crusaders vs. Hurricanes:
@canerbry said in Crusaders vs. Hurricanes:
@canefan But will it stop opposition fans whinging like Poms?
Correct, great self-awareness there Canefan.
The record is red and black mate. Perhaps the one eye you're looking at it with is the colour blind one?
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Of the AB non-selections - I think George Bridge made the biggest statement, followed up by a couple of nice busts from Savea elder. Both completely outplayed BLAM who was disappointing. I thought
Of the newbies - was impressed by Blackadder his energy and workrate in the conditions added some punch, Lousi has the attributes and at this stage just has to keep working hard, and for mine, I rate Makalio, think he could be one to watch.
Of the ABs named - think the biggest statement was made by Mo'unga, directed play nicely and didn;t go into his shell, but kept on pressing. Goodhue as well added some power to midfield, and Laumape tried his heart out. The pimply giraffe was a mixed bag, better in tghe 2nd half.
Disappointing - Riccitelli, Havili, B Barrett.
Invisible - BLAM -
When you consider how many frontline troops the Saders had out for this game,and then the ones they lost during the game.they deserve a ton of credit,they were”nt the favourites going into this game..it was all about the result and they found a way to get there.
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Canes just never looked in it. Saders defence just shut them down and they had no tactical answer.
Goodhue was my MOTM. Wouldn't be disappointed to see him start at 13 for the ABs. I really hope they put Mounga on the bench for the tests too. Having a more controlling 10 on the bench would provide a point of difference if BB doesn't fire, like tonight. Dmac is just a more erratic version of BB.
That penalty kick from Jordie was impressive. About the only good thing he did though. He needs to rein in his no arms/high tackle tendencies.
Thought Ardie carried pretty well tonight. I don't think there is another player in the comp that makes as many yard in contact through leg drive as him. Just needs guys to support him when he does it.
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@canefan said in Crusaders vs. Hurricanes:
@chris-b it's not as if it doesn't rain in Wellington. The canes just didn't show up to play in the conditions and were ruthlessly exposed by the Crusaders tonight
It was vertical rain though, that's crazy shit.
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@kiwimurph said in Crusaders vs. Hurricanes:
@canerbry said in Crusaders vs. Hurricanes:
@gt12 said in Crusaders vs. Hurricanes:
Really clear plan and they’ve played to it. I’ve been super impressed by Mo’unga, who’s looked 100% comfortable with driving them around. He’s kicked really well, and made good decisions all night.
Much happier about him in a black jersey. Waaaaaay ahead of Dmac
Way ahead of Beauden tonight too.
Yep. Tonight not a great night for those who refuse to criticise Beauden as a 10. On a night where he cant use his pace Beauden has done fuck all.
I agree. Based on that one performance he clearly just isn't a good 10. Drop him for RM.
In all seriousness, terrible wet weather rugby from the Canes. You can't play like that in those conditions. It's not like it doesnt rain in Canes country.
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@rancid-schnitzel nice straw man
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Is there a good argument to play Mounga at 10 for the ABs when the weather dictates the gameplan? BB could move to 15.
AB selectors have always backed their number one pick at 10 to play all conditions but maybe that should be thought about? It does signal the gameplan, but in poor weather it is pretty obvious anyway.
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@shadowtrooper said in Crusaders vs. Hurricanes:
Of the AB non-selections - I think George Bridge made the biggest statement, followed up by a couple of nice busts from Savea elder. Both completely outplayed BLAM who was disappointing. I thought
Of the newbies - was impressed by Blackadder his energy and workrate in the conditions added some punch, Lousi has the attributes and at this stage just has to keep working hard, and for mine, I rate Makalio, think he could be one to watch.
Of the ABs named - think the biggest statement was made by Mo'unga, directed play nicely and didn;t go into his shell, but kept on pressing. Goodhue as well added some power to midfield, and Laumape tried his heart out. The pimply giraffe was a mixed bag, better in tghe 2nd half.
Disappointing - Riccitelli, Havili, B Barrett.
Invisible - BLAMGood post Trooper.
Not disagreeing about Laumape's effort (and am fanboi) but thought Saders contained him pretty well.
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Canes coaches need to have a rethink about their approach. Because the Canes have looked out of sorts most of this year. Its just not clicking. They weren't great this game especially the backs. It was another bumbling display.
And West was awful when he came on. JGB is a bit slow but I would still prefer him. West still being selected maybe reflects a faulty coaches mindset where they believe rare flashes of brilliance can win games as opposed to sound sensible rugby. Like good defense and good line clearing.
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@kiwimurph said in Crusaders vs. Hurricanes:
@rancid-schnitzel nice straw man
Not sure it's that much of a straw man ... it's @Canerbry after all ...
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@winger said in Crusaders vs. Hurricanes:
Canes coaches need to have a rethink about their approach. Because the Canes have looked out of sorts most of this year. Its just not clicking. They weren't great this game especially the backs. It was another bumbling display.
And West was awful when he came on. JGB is a bit slow but I would still prefer him. West still being selected maybe reflects a faulty coaches mindset where they believe rare flashes of brilliance can win games as opposed to sound sensible rugby. Like good defense and good line clearing.
All of the winning has disguised a lack of fluency. Canes will need to sort this out or we will get found out again soon
