Highlanders vs. Hurricanes
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@pukunui I haven't seen anything like that hit by Squire result in a ban, so hopefully that won't occur.
In all honesty, I don't see too many bad calls by the judiciary once they're looking at all slo-mo angles - as well as playing them in normal time to anticipate what people actually could have done to avoid contact with the head.
Haven't seen the other contact on Perenara you guys are talking about.
@chris-b said in Highlanders vs. Hurricanes:
@pukunui I haven't seen anything like that hit by Squire result in a ban, so hopefully that won't occur.
In all honesty, I don't see too many bad calls by the judiciary once they're looking at all slo-mo angles - as well as playing them in normal time to anticipate what people actually could have done to avoid contact with the head.
Haven't seen the other contact on Perenara you guys are talking about.
The problem i have with the citing/judiciary end is that the incidents are considered to have met the red card threshold yet the player escapes during the game with nothing, a penalty or a yellow only.
If it meets the red card threshold it should be dealt with during the game where the team on the receiving end of whatever it was gets the benefit.If not, then lets raise the red card threshold back to where it used to be where it was mainly reserved for actual dirty play not just tackles gone wrong.
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@pukunui @Toddy There's just nothing in that.
The guy he's tackling is at his knee level when he's hit him and he has no chance of pulling out.
Haven't seen what you guys are suggesting on Perenara, but IMO that one doesn't deserve a yellow and I'll be amazed and disappointed if he gets banned for that.
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@chris-b said in Highlanders vs. Hurricanes:
@pukunui I haven't seen anything like that hit by Squire result in a ban, so hopefully that won't occur.
In all honesty, I don't see too many bad calls by the judiciary once they're looking at all slo-mo angles - as well as playing them in normal time to anticipate what people actually could have done to avoid contact with the head.
Haven't seen the other contact on Perenara you guys are talking about.
The problem i have with the citing/judiciary end is that the incidents are considered to have met the red card threshold yet the player escapes during the game with nothing, a penalty or a yellow only.
If it meets the red card threshold it should be dealt with during the game where the team on the receiving end of whatever it was gets the benefit.If not, then lets raise the red card threshold back to where it used to be where it was mainly reserved for actual dirty play not just tackles gone wrong.
@pukunui I agree with you.
But, I'd tend to take a different line. If someone indulges in dirty play let's ban them in a considered way, without spoiling the game for everyone else -especially the people who watch rugby.
Allow them to be replaced in the match, but ban them from returning for longer.
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@chris-b looks more like a cheap shot to me, rather than a player going for a genuine tackle.
@toddy said in Highlanders vs. Hurricanes:
@chris-b looks more like a cheap shot to me, rather than a player going for a genuine tackle.
In all honesty, I can't see anything abnormal in that - Squire seems to be unlucky to me. @Rapido seems to agree.
No doubt it will be subject to enormous scrutiny, so we'll find out what the judiciary think in due course.
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On Squire. Really? Play that at full speed and tell me he's intentionally hit Savea high.
Poor call to give him a yellow IMO.
@chris-b If Squire gets banned for that tackle on Savea, the game has lost its mind.
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@toddy said in Highlanders vs. Hurricanes:
@chris-b looks more like a cheap shot to me, rather than a player going for a genuine tackle.
In all honesty, I can't see anything abnormal in that - Squire seems to be unlucky to me. @Rapido seems to agree.
No doubt it will be subject to enormous scrutiny, so we'll find out what the judiciary think in due course.
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@chris-b it already has been scrutinized (about 10 minutes of replays) and deemed a yellow. Seems fair to me.
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The other thing that hasn't been mention so much: what the fuck was Savea thinking throwing a punch like that in this day and age of tv cameras. He was bloody lucky the camera moved away.
Having watched the wide replay a couple of times it does appear that RR is between Savea and Squires head so unless he manage to aim well im not sure he landed it. A brain snap like that would have to also be a black mark against any slim chance he had of ever being an AB again. -
Thought Luke Whitelock was pretty good there.
Lam - you need more work rate if you want higher honours.
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@toddy Yep. I wouldn't have given it a yellow, but they have.
I disagree, but I'll have to suck that up.
Hope they don't extend to a red for that incident, but if they do I'll have to suck that up as well.
At least he's not a Crusader.
@chris-b said in Highlanders vs. Hurricanes:
@toddy Yep. I wouldn't have given it a yellow, but they have.
I disagree, but I'll have to suck that up.
Hope they don't extend to a red for that incident, but if they do I'll have to suck that up as well.
At least he's not a Crusader.
Yellow was more than enough for that incident. I thought Jules should have gone too.
But the cleanout on TJP doesn't look good. IIRC he's reaching for the ball and Squire torpedoes into him, shoulder directly connecting with the face. Would not be surprised if he cops 1 - 2 weeks for it, amazed the officials didn't even look at it again.
I won't lie though, I've never been a fan of Squire. He is niggly, often puts in cheap shots that could seriously cost us one day, and he has gone missing against the top teams basically every test he's started. He's a flat track bully.
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@chris-b said in Highlanders vs. Hurricanes:
@toddy Yep. I wouldn't have given it a yellow, but they have.
I disagree, but I'll have to suck that up.
Hope they don't extend to a red for that incident, but if they do I'll have to suck that up as well.
At least he's not a Crusader.
Yellow was more than enough for that incident. I thought Jules should have gone too.
But the cleanout on TJP doesn't look good. IIRC he's reaching for the ball and Squire torpedoes into him, shoulder directly connecting with the face. Would not be surprised if he cops 1 - 2 weeks for it, amazed the officials didn't even look at it again.
I won't lie though, I've never been a fan of Squire. He is niggly, often puts in cheap shots that could seriously cost us one day, and he has gone missing against the top teams basically every test he's started. He's a flat track bully.
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@chris-b said in Highlanders vs. Hurricanes:
@toddy Yep. I wouldn't have given it a yellow, but they have.
I disagree, but I'll have to suck that up.
Hope they don't extend to a red for that incident, but if they do I'll have to suck that up as well.
At least he's not a Crusader.
Yellow was more than enough for that incident. I thought Jules should have gone too.
But the cleanout on TJP doesn't look good. IIRC he's reaching for the ball and Squire torpedoes into him, shoulder directly connecting with the face. Would not be surprised if he cops 1 - 2 weeks for it, amazed the officials didn't even look at it again.
I won't lie though, I've never been a fan of Squire. He is niggly, often puts in cheap shots that could seriously cost us one day, and he has gone missing against the top teams basically every test he's started. He's a flat track bully.
But the camera's missed what Julian might or might not have done. The refs assumed he was up to no good and ruled out the try. Poor reffing really although there was a forward pass that was missed.
But Canes were out-muscled in the 2nd half. Plumtree has a lot of work to do. And Ricky looks like he needs a good rest. Hopefully he gets IT over the nest few weeks
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Is there even a slim chance of Savea making the ABs again? He so average now. Would he even command a big NH retirement contract?
Agree about the punch though. What a fucken dumbass (if he did throw a punch)
@toddy Julian Savea should either reinvent himself as a midfielder or go overseas.
That was a really disappointing loss on the back of losing to nobody's second favourite team last week. The pack's not that bad on paper, so not sure what's going on there.
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Is there even a slim chance of Savea making the ABs again? He so average now. Would he even command a big NH retirement contract?
Agree about the punch though. What a fucken dumbass (if he did throw a punch)
@toddy said in Highlanders vs. Hurricanes:
Is there even a slim chance of Savea making the ABs again? He so average now. Would he even command a big NH retirement contract?
Agree about the punch though. What a fucken dumbass (if he did throw a punch)
I reckon he'll still get a big payday up north based on his reputation alone. The NZRFU should grant him a release, to save payroll and to allow him to get a deal before teams up in the NH start watching footage and realise he doesn't have it anymore
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So Jordie done a Norm Hewitt....kinda.
Apparently not intoxicated just entered an unlocked house he thought was someone else's with a friend to eat their Maccas....their friends house was over the road.
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So Jordie done a Norm Hewitt....kinda.
Apparently not intoxicated just entered an unlocked house he thought was someone else's with a friend to eat their Maccas....their friends house was over the road.
@taniwharugby Eating Maccas in someone else's lounge at 5am and not drunk. Sounds like a Tui billboard. But, as long as they apologise to the girls in the flat, I can't see a problem. I remember doing the Undy 500 back in the day and doing worse, although I obviously wasn't an All Black.
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@taniwharugby Eating Maccas in someone else's lounge at 5am and not drunk. Sounds like a Tui billboard. But, as long as they apologise to the girls in the flat, I can't see a problem. I remember doing the Undy 500 back in the day and doing worse, although I obviously wasn't an All Black.
@louis get the girls a bunch of free Adidas kit would be a start!
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Every other day occurrence in Dunners. Nobody locks their flats, every house looks the same, Maccas...of course and not drunk???? haha.
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It is clear that Julian has thrown a punch, it is unknown if he connected.
Even if he did, the time to cite him has passed hasn't it?
