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Chiefs vs Highlanders

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  • H hydro11

    I don't see why Marshall is getting hate for saying someone should not be forced to leave the field for a complete accident. If cards worked, wouldn't there be less head collisions now and less cards?

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    @hydro11 said in Chiefs vs Highlanders:

    I don't see why Marshall is getting hate for saying someone should not be forced to leave the field for a complete accident. If cards worked, wouldn't there be less head collisions now and less cards?

    Wasn't an accident.

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      @hydro11 said in Chiefs vs Highlanders:

      I don't see why Marshall is getting hate for saying someone should not be forced to leave the field for a complete accident. If cards worked, wouldn't there be less head collisions now and less cards?

      Wasn't an accident.

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      @booboo said in Chiefs vs Highlanders:

      @hydro11 said in Chiefs vs Highlanders:

      I don't see why Marshall is getting hate for saying someone should not be forced to leave the field for a complete accident. If cards worked, wouldn't there be less head collisions now and less cards?

      Wasn't an accident.

      If that is a red, then Orbyn Ledger should take a seat for his high tackle on Frizell's try. He grabbed Frizell and pulled him down by the neck. The fact Frizell is going into score a try shouldn't matter if Tomkinson got no leeway for the way Retallick went into that contact.

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        Why the fark did Leger not kick any goals? He's good otherwise, and kicking out of hand was great, so why not kicking from the tee? Fark the lack of a recognised or even halfway decent goalkicker cost us big time tonight. We totally bloody shat the bed when BBBR got broke. Some fucking one needs to tell them to collectively keep their shit together for the last 20. And get a hooker that can hit a barn door in the last play. And get a goalkicker. Cooper you muppet. FFS.

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          Some of Aaron Smith's Highlanders team-mates were even wondering where his dummy came from.
          
          Known for his crisp distribution, the 82-test All Blacks halfback instead pulled off a feign for the ages, as he snuck over for the match-winning try against the Chiefs in the Super Rugby season opener in Hamilton on Friday night.
          
          With his side hot on attack and four points down, Smith arrived at a ruck close to the goal-line, composed himself, then threw a big dummy left and jinked his way back past Jesse Parete and Michael Allardice to plant the ball down.
          
          And it's that dummy which the experienced campaigner said had been a real focus in pre-season.
          
          "Some of the boys are like 'where'd that come from'," Smith said.
          
          "We've got a young halfback down in the Highlanders at the moment and he's been doing it all pre-season with me around. He's got me a couple of times. He's been really pushing me around that and making me look at different parts of my game.
          
          "So that one goes to Folau Fakatava, he's the man. He's been dummying everyone at camp, and it just sort of happened."
          
          Fakatava - the 19-year-old Hawke's Bay representative out of Hastings Boys' High School - is yet to play Super Rugby, but it's not a bad wrap to get from someone of the calibre of Smith.
          

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          I hope Fakatava gets plenty of opportunity this season. The sooner he gets game time, the better. Can't wait to see how he develops at a higher level, and whether and how fast he'll jump the queue in black in the next few years!
          Even without my black-and-white eye patch on, I think it won't take long until he'll be on the Highlanders bench instead of Hammington, who didn't impress.

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/110632995/aaron-smith-credits-highlanders-understudy-for-his-gamewinning-try-against-chiefs

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          • StargazerS Stargazer
            Some of Aaron Smith's Highlanders team-mates were even wondering where his dummy came from.
            
            Known for his crisp distribution, the 82-test All Blacks halfback instead pulled off a feign for the ages, as he snuck over for the match-winning try against the Chiefs in the Super Rugby season opener in Hamilton on Friday night.
            
            With his side hot on attack and four points down, Smith arrived at a ruck close to the goal-line, composed himself, then threw a big dummy left and jinked his way back past Jesse Parete and Michael Allardice to plant the ball down.
            
            And it's that dummy which the experienced campaigner said had been a real focus in pre-season.
            
            "Some of the boys are like 'where'd that come from'," Smith said.
            
            "We've got a young halfback down in the Highlanders at the moment and he's been doing it all pre-season with me around. He's got me a couple of times. He's been really pushing me around that and making me look at different parts of my game.
            
            "So that one goes to Folau Fakatava, he's the man. He's been dummying everyone at camp, and it just sort of happened."
            
            Fakatava - the 19-year-old Hawke's Bay representative out of Hastings Boys' High School - is yet to play Super Rugby, but it's not a bad wrap to get from someone of the calibre of Smith.
            

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            I hope Fakatava gets plenty of opportunity this season. The sooner he gets game time, the better. Can't wait to see how he develops at a higher level, and whether and how fast he'll jump the queue in black in the next few years!
            Even without my black-and-white eye patch on, I think it won't take long until he'll be on the Highlanders bench instead of Hammington, who didn't impress.

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/110632995/aaron-smith-credits-highlanders-understudy-for-his-gamewinning-try-against-chiefs

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            @Stargazer you can sure as shit bet he wouldn't get charged down 2 touches in a row, the 2nd coming upon retrieving the 1sr!

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              I know Marshall is a tosser and I know what the law says about high contact and I love BBBR but if you take on the defensive line head first then you are more than likely going to get hit in the head - so are we going to see way more red cards, are players going to lay off tackles because the head is there?

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              • N Nevorian

                I know Marshall is a tosser and I know what the law says about high contact and I love BBBR but if you take on the defensive line head first then you are more than likely going to get hit in the head - so are we going to see way more red cards, are players going to lay off tackles because the head is there?

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                @Nevorian said in Chiefs vs Highlanders:

                I know Marshall is a tosser and I know what the law says about high contact and I love BBBR but if you take on the defensive line head first then you are more than likely going to get hit in the head - so are we going to see way more red cards, are players going to lay off tackles because the head is there?

                Tomkinson was standing very high. Leading with the shoulder. If he gets down and attempts a tackle there's no issue is there? Retallick and the laws are not the bloody issue.

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                • BonesB Bones

                  @Nevorian said in Chiefs vs Highlanders:

                  I know Marshall is a tosser and I know what the law says about high contact and I love BBBR but if you take on the defensive line head first then you are more than likely going to get hit in the head - so are we going to see way more red cards, are players going to lay off tackles because the head is there?

                  Tomkinson was standing very high. Leading with the shoulder. If he gets down and attempts a tackle there's no issue is there? Retallick and the laws are not the bloody issue.

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                  @Bones yeah he did not even attempt to wrap his left arm, too

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                  • BonesB Bones

                    @Nevorian said in Chiefs vs Highlanders:

                    I know Marshall is a tosser and I know what the law says about high contact and I love BBBR but if you take on the defensive line head first then you are more than likely going to get hit in the head - so are we going to see way more red cards, are players going to lay off tackles because the head is there?

                    Tomkinson was standing very high. Leading with the shoulder. If he gets down and attempts a tackle there's no issue is there? Retallick and the laws are not the bloody issue.

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                    @Bones I wasn't saying Retallick is the issue, I was trying to say how do you tackle a player who is charging at you head first and low and avoid a red card. Very difficult to get your arms wrapped low around someone in that situation, especially a big tall person

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                    • N Nevorian

                      @Bones I wasn't saying Retallick is the issue, I was trying to say how do you tackle a player who is charging at you head first and low and avoid a red card. Very difficult to get your arms wrapped low around someone in that situation, especially a big tall person

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                      @Nevorian said in Chiefs vs Highlanders:

                      @Bones I wasn't saying Retallick is the issue, I was trying to say how do you tackle a player who is charging at you head first and low and avoid a red card. Very difficult to get your arms wrapped low around someone in that situation, especially a big tall person

                      No it's not, we see it all the bloody time!

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                      • N Nevorian

                        @Bones I wasn't saying Retallick is the issue, I was trying to say how do you tackle a player who is charging at you head first and low and avoid a red card. Very difficult to get your arms wrapped low around someone in that situation, especially a big tall person

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                        @Nevorian ankles and legs still exist

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                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/110711812/highlanders-midfielder-sio-tomkinson-has-red-card-dismissed-by-sanzaar

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                          • DuluthD Duluth

                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/110711812/highlanders-midfielder-sio-tomkinson-has-red-card-dismissed-by-sanzaar

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                            @Duluth bloody hometown! Interesting they think he didn't even breach the law - I just thought they might be downgrading it to yellow. Red card looked fair to me at the time.

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                            • DuluthD Duluth

                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/110711812/highlanders-midfielder-sio-tomkinson-has-red-card-dismissed-by-sanzaar

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                              @Duluth lucky nobody on here got on their high horse insisting that they knew the laws and it was a straight red.

                              #nobody knows the fucken law interpretations with any certainty

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