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  • KirwanK Offline
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    replied to KiwiMurph on last edited by
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    @KiwiMurph said in Blues vs Crusaders:

    @SammyC said in Blues vs Crusaders:

    Hahahaha, thanks Harry Plummer you fucking loser

    On his debut? Stay classy champ.

    Standard for the cantabs. He missed less than Richie.

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  • HoorooH Offline
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    Ha ha funny @Kirwan weak weak losing blaming the ref.

    Grasping straws to be a good team.

    This will be a good team eventually but your fucking piss weak arse blaming the ref is pathetic. You may as well be @Canerbry

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    @hydro11 said in Blues vs Crusaders:

    @antipodean said in Blues vs Crusaders:

    @hydro11 said in Blues vs Crusaders:

    @antipodean said in Blues vs Crusaders:

    @hydro11 said in Blues vs Crusaders:

    @antipodean said in Blues vs Crusaders:

    @Bones said in Blues vs Crusaders:

    @antipodean said in Blues vs Crusaders:

    Not a deliberate knock on? WTF is the clown smoking?

    It's not a deliberate knock on. How many penalties are we gonna have if we start penalising people for accidental knock ons?

    It is deliberate because it didn't go backwards and he didn't catch it. That removes any "judgement".

    Under that ruling, every knock on is deliberate.

    You might want to learn the laws. A player in possession can knock on ffs.

    Right but if a player in possession loses it they didn't catch it and the ball didn't go backwards. So if those are the only two criteria, every knock on is deliberate.

    The matter in hand is defenders knocking the ball on interfering in passes to players in space. This isn't difficult to understand.

    If you include possession as a third criteria you still have every knock on not in possession as a penalty (which seems stupid).

    It's only stupid to stupid people who think that outcome with Mataele simply throwing out a hand to interfere with the pass isn't deliberate.

    But you literally said in your earlier post:

    I'll make it easier for you, see this post.

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  • BonesB Offline
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    replied to Hooroo on last edited by
    #272

    @Hooroo the ref was an absolute shamozzle.

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  • SammyCS Offline
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    replied to Kirwan on last edited by
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    @Kirwan said in Blues vs Crusaders:

    @KiwiMurph said in Blues vs Crusaders:

    @SammyC said in Blues vs Crusaders:

    Hahahaha, thanks Harry Plummer you fucking loser

    On his debut? Stay classy champ.

    Standard for the cantabs. He missed less than Richie.

    Richie was terrible, but Plummer gifted is that win at the end.

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  • KirwanK Offline
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    replied to Hooroo on last edited by
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    @Hooroo said in Blues vs Crusaders:

    Ha ha funny @Kirwan weak weak losing blaming the ref.

    Grasping straws to be a good team.

    This will be a good team eventually but your fucking piss weak arse blaming the ref is pathetic. You may as well be @Canerbry

    The ref isn’t above criticism, and he made many errors. It was so bad even TJ mentioned it on the commentary.

    It was a factor in the loss, which sucks when you have to cop two penalty trys.

    Of course the outcome is in our hands. But when you are playing the best team in the competition the least you can expect is a level playing field.

    If it makes you feel better, the decisive factor was Collins. That try he let in was embarrassing, and he murdered several other opportunities

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  • KirwanK Offline
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    replied to SammyC on last edited by
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    @SammyC said in Blues vs Crusaders:

    @Kirwan said in Blues vs Crusaders:

    @KiwiMurph said in Blues vs Crusaders:

    @SammyC said in Blues vs Crusaders:

    Hahahaha, thanks Harry Plummer you fucking loser

    On his debut? Stay classy champ.

    Standard for the cantabs. He missed less than Richie.

    Richie was terrible, but Plummer gifted is that win at the end.

    Gifted is overstating it, it was a close miss from reasonably far out.

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  • KirwanK Offline
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    @Bones said in Blues vs Crusaders:

    @Hooroo the ref was an absolute shamozzle.

    I watched the replays of those Cantab breaks, Nonu wasn’t at fault for the first one. But one of the other ones he was done easily for pace. That’s concerning, but overall he was way better than I expected.

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  • BonesB Offline
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    replied to Kirwan on last edited by Bones
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    @Kirwan said in Blues vs Crusaders:

    @Bones said in Blues vs Crusaders:

    @Hooroo the ref was an absolute shamozzle.

    I watched the replays of those Cantab breaks, Nonu wasn’t at fault for the first one. But one of the other ones he was done easily for pace. That’s concerning, but overall he was way better than I expected.

    Yeah the first one he just wasn't there, which seemed curious to me. The other one Ennor made him look like he was as light on his feet as Franks.

    Edit: however he's defending at centre, it's the hardest position to adjust to in defence when you don't get regular practice there.

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  • KirwanK Offline
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    @Bones said in Blues vs Crusaders:

    @Kirwan said in Blues vs Crusaders:

    @Bones said in Blues vs Crusaders:

    @Hooroo the ref was an absolute shamozzle.

    I watched the replays of those Cantab breaks, Nonu wasn’t at fault for the first one. But one of the other ones he was done easily for pace. That’s concerning, but overall he was way better than I expected.

    Yeah the first one he just wasn't there, which seemed curious to me. The other one Ennor made him look like he was as light on his feet as Franks.

    That seems like an opportunity to bag the defence coach...

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    #279

    Stitch up. Painfully limited crusaders are the brumbies with a compliant ref

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  • TimT Away
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    #280

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/110649953/super-rugby-crusaders-coach-scott-robertson-warns-these-blues-are-much-better

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    Also who was the dumb fluffybunny who ran in to touch? Was that Pulu?

    Did @Tim and @Kirwan punch their phones to death?

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    replied to mariner4life on last edited by
    #282

    @mariner4life Yes and yes.

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    replied to NTA on last edited by
    #283

    @NTA said in Blues vs Crusaders:

    Impressed with Blue 6, Red 13, and Romano's work in the scrum

    Romano won Crusaders the second penalty try, despite Michael A at TH. For me previous scrum, where MA ejected out the top, should have been Blues penalty. Very inconsistent reffing.

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  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #284

    Not Pulu’s finest moment and when the game is in the balance the Blues simply needed better. Rangi and Tana’s reaction was identical and priceless. Problem for the Blues is that there’s been a number of very poor moments like that from Pulu at this level.

    Sure it might only be a turnover, but it speaks volumes in terms of what’s going on in the top two inches that he thinks he can make something of it, when it is a very very low percentage play.

    Funny sort of game that, but quite enjoyable in terms of the contest at the collisions and the intensity for a round one encounter. Plenty of work ons for both sides, but always nice to walk away with some points at Eden Park.

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  • Billy TellB Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #285

    @Justin Marshall

    A penalty try is awarded between the goal posts if foul play by the opposing team prevents a probable try from being scored, or scored in a more advantageous position. A player guilty of this must be cautioned and temporarily suspended or sent off. No conversion is attempted.

    In news other than Justin Marshall's somewhat rusty knowledge of the laws of the game - thought the end of year tour, and England's start to the 6N, show that forwards need some power. In that regards, thought Shannon Frizzell stood out in his wee cameo for the Highlanders, while in this game Ioane and to a lesser extent Robinson, showed good moments.

    Watching the Blues, you sort of thought they had a charity spot in the team for a local kid with special needs. This week's lucky winner was Michael Collins. For the Crusaders, Braydon Ennor went pretty well.

    Think the Blues have potential, that was a respectable enough loss against last year's champions.

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  • TimT Away
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    Tim
    replied to ACT Crusader on last edited by
    #286

    @ACT-Crusader Pulu does something like that in literally every game. I'm not sure we can even risk him as a replacement now.

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  • ShadowTrooperS Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #287

    Enjoyed that, was worth getting up for.
    Blues should take a lot of confidence from this. But for some heads up play in the first 20, (plus Pulu at the death) they would have won. Impressed with the physicality of Tom Robinson, and Akira means business this season. Plummer will be better for the outing, he will improve, just needs time in the saddle. All in all a respectable showing against last seasons champs.
    Ennor wias very good for the Saders, and their foward pack will be the envy of many. Hard to bet against them.

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  • rotatedR Offline
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    wrote on last edited by rotated
    #288

    The Blues lost that in the first 20 minutes when they had all the running and couldn't even get a sniff of the line. They had opportunity to strike from phase play, lineouts and at least two scrums and were easily shut down. It looked like an attitude and game plan issue. The Crusaders showed how it's done with chancing their arm on their first quality ball and almost scoring with that Ennor break, and then when they got a free kick took a high risk high reward option for the first try. Blues by contrast were vanilla, bland and directionless in the backs.

    On the positive side the defence looks organized and much improved on last season.

    Early days but I suspect this will be a trend throughout the season where the Blues try to make all the running in the last 10 minutes and lose by less than 7.

    Also - I hear a lot of non-Cantab fans give TJ a hard time for being a homer, but I've never really got it and again yesterday with the knockdown he was adamantly against a pro-Crusaders call which IMO was pretty marginal.

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