Dan Bailey

Kirwan

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So is beer pong and and food eating too I suppose. All meaningless and not really sport.
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Is weightlifting a sport? Triathlons? Gymnastics? Running or Rowing? Crossfit is just a mix of those disciplines, just like a decathalon.

Hooroo

Eating Hotdogs, Fruit pies and Mince pies. Maybe that sport can do a triathalon of the eating sport.
 
It's not a sport

Kirwan

Yes it is.

Hooroo

Good point actually as I go to 'The Sport' 5 times a week. 3 times with a PT.
 
If I built one with all those buildings as a business with lifty thingys and ropey stuff and metal bars, I'll call it The Sport. People could laugh along too. :)

Kirwan

If you are racing someone to do the same workout, then it becomes a sport. Like Swimming.

Hooroo

Yeah, I agree, I race Mrs Hooroo to The Sport and last finished has to cook tea........

Kirwan

So just to be clear, you don't think the following are sports either?
 
Running
Swimming
Rowing
Weightlifting
Triathalons
Ironmans
Decathlons
 
All use the same sort of scoring system that Crossfit uses.

Hooroo

Those Olympic events are, yes. Crossfit isn't. Unless you can all any type of movement with some arbitrary scoring attached a sport. In that case, everything is a sport as I just timed how long the Photocopier took to pront something. If it does it quicker tomrrow, I'll score it 3 points.A new sport born!

Kirwan

Ironman is not an Olympic sport.
 
The definition of a sport is;
 
"an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment"
 
That's exactly what the Crossfit Games are. I think you are confusing the training part (what I do at the gym) with the sport part. I wouldn't call the weekly training I do a sport, that's gaining fitness and working on skills for fun, and in my case to compete in things like the Open. Better athletes get onto the Regionals and to the actual Games.
 
Crossfit is two different things, a way to workout AND there is a sport-afied version.
 
Looks like a sport to me;

Hooroo

As I said, anything then is a sport, so long as you move.

Hooroo

I would call it a Fad rather than a sport. Like Tai Bo and Jazzercise

Kirwan

Oh, you are just trolling. How very WS90210 of you.
 
I've made my case, you disagree with me (and the definition of sport). Whatever.

JK

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I would call it a Fad rather than a sport. Like Tai Bo and Jazzercise
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Sorry had to like this as LOL'd so hard.

Hooroo

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Oh, you are just trolling. How very WS90210 of you.
 
I've made my case, you disagree with me (and the definition of sport). Whatever.
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Not trolling, just clarifying what I think of it. I would bet that within ten years you'll struggle to attend crossfit in the same way you'd be hard pressed to find a decent jazzercise class. Hence the Fad comment

NTA

Driver: take me around in circles. And step on it, I'm in a hurry.

Kirwan

Who knows what will be popular in ten years time?
 
So far Crossfit has been going 15 years, and still seems to be in a strong growth mode. Look at the Open numbers;
 
<div>"Each year, participation in the Open grows exponentially. In 2011, about 26,000 people signed up for the first-ever Open. The next year, 69,370 people signed up. In 2013, there were 138,619 participants, and this year registration closed with 209,585 people.</div>
<div>The growth tracks nicely with the number of CrossFit affiliates around the world. This averages to about 23 Open participants per affiliate each year. Of course many affiliates have many more participants than that. This year, CrossFit NYC has the most Open participants of any affiliate: 676 of their approximately 2,000 members registered for the Open this year."</div>
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<div>It will be interesting to see the numbers later next month. They seem to be tracking with the number of gyms opening, just looking at the new affiliates in NZ since I started in 2011 is pretty impressive.</div>
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<div>With the support from ESPN and Reebok, their future looks pretty healthy. Also, these gyms are just businesses that license IP from Crossfit. People are always looking for places to workout, so no reason for them to go anywhere as they have good equipment and a fun environment to exercise. So even if there is a backlash against Crossfit, it's just a gym at the end of the day.</div>
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<div>And just to be argumentative, I looked into the figures for Jazzercize and that's still going strong too! Surprised me.</div>

antipodean

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Kirwan" data-cid="468972" data-time="1421875516">Is weightlifting a sport? Triathlons? Gymnastics? Running or Rowing? Crossfit is just a mix of those disciplines, just like a decathalon.</blockquote>Yes*, sort of, yes*, yes, yes. Triathlon is at the elite level (at any distance short of stupid, i.e. Ironman) for people who aren't good at cycling, running or swimming. At Ironman it's just for sadists. The rest you have to be the best at something specific. Anyone who thinks weightlifting isn't hasn't done a C&J or snatch. Because this is more impressive:

* - Generally I am dismissive of events that require subjective (no matter how qualified) analysis for scoring when it comes to technique. But generally speaking you either lift the weight over your head and immediately lock out or you don't. <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Kirwan" data-cid="469006" data-time="1421886080">With the support from ESPN and Reebok, their future looks pretty healthy. Also, these gyms are just businesses that license IP from Crossfit. People are always looking for places to workout, so no reason for them to go anywhere as they have good equipment and a fun environment to exercise. So even if there is a backlash against Crossfit, it's just a gym at the end of the day.</blockquote>I remember when basketball was going to be the next big thing and player numbers were exploding - easy to do from a small base... From my perspective anything that keeps people motivated to exercise is a good thing. I just laugh when people are drinking from the kool aid

NTA

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* - Generally I am dismissive of events that require subjective (no matter how qualified) analysis for scoring when it comes to technique. But generally speaking you either lift the weight over your head and immediately lock out or you don't. 

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I agree generally - running race = start here, finish there, quickest one wins. High jump = get over that thing. Highest one wins. Long jump same for distance, don't step over the board. WALKING - seriously what a fucked "sport". If they got robots to judge the rules, no prick would finish.
 
I was watching X-fit games when I still had FoxSports, and they had dudes counting reps for each thing and "no-repping" people occasionally. I know it should be pretty obvious with things like a squat puts hips below knees or something, but that too can be subjective.

Kirwan

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I agree generally - running race = start here, finish there, quickest one wins. High jump = get over that thing. Highest one wins. Long jump same for distance, don't step over the board. WALKING - seriously what a fucked "sport". If they got robots to judge the rules, no prick would finish.
 
I was watching X-fit games when I still had FoxSports, and they had dudes counting reps for each thing and "no-repping" people occasionally. I know it should be pretty obvious with things like a squat puts hips below knees or something, but that too can be subjective.
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Subjective like LBWs in cricket you mean? Anything with a judge is not a sport then? Lets rule out Cricket, baseball, and figure skating then :)

Kirwan

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Yes*, sort of, yes*, yes, yes. 
Triathlon is at the elite level (at any distance short of stupid, i.e. Ironman) for people who aren't good at cycling, running or swimming. At Ironman it's just for sadists. The rest you have to be the best at something specific. Anyone who thinks weightlifting isn't hasn't done a C&J or snatch. Because this is more impressive:

- Generally I am dismissive of events that require subjective (no matter how qualified) analysis for scoring when it comes to technique. But generally speaking you either lift the weight over your head and immediately lock out or you don't. 
 I remember when basketball was going to be the next big thing and player numbers were exploding - easy to do from a small base... 
 From my perspective anything that keeps people motivated to exercise is a good thing. I just laugh when people are drinking from the kool aid
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 I'm not drinking from the Kool Aid, I'm just amused at the narrow definition of sport.

The Silver Fern

Dan Bailey