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Jaguares vs Blues

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  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

    Hinton's article in Stuff indicated they would fly over a replacement for Clarke. However, I think most likely Blues are stuck with Collins at 15 one more week.

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    @KiwiMurph said in Jaguares vs Blues:

    Hinton's article in Stuff indicated they would fly over a replacement for Clarke. However, I think most likely Blues are stuck with Collins at 15 one more week.

    They said it was Matt Duffie on one of the sky shows. Throw him straight in the starting side

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          No Collins which is a positive, even if it means Nanai moving to fullback.

          Poor selecting from MacDonald in the centres thus far. All three guys have an established body of work and Rangi should have a strong opinion on how the centre combination fits together.

          Playing Faiane-Nonu round one, the switching it up to Nonu-Faiane round three is just sloppy selecting and an indication he has no fundamental game plan he is working off.

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            I would prefer TJ and Nonu the other way around. It went ok in week one and TJ did not defend well at 13 last week

            No specialist outside back reserve. I guess Black moves to fullback if anyone gets injured. That's surprising because they are meant to sub Rieko after 47mins.

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            • DuluthD Duluth

              I would prefer TJ and Nonu the other way around. It went ok in week one and TJ did not defend well at 13 last week

              No specialist outside back reserve. I guess Black moves to fullback if anyone gets injured. That's surprising because they are meant to sub Rieko after 47mins.

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              @Duluth I wonder if the Blues have been given a bit of leeway on Rieko given that they are on tour + Clarke's injury + theyve got the Sunwolves next week.

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                I would prefer TJ and Nonu the other way around. It went ok in week one and TJ did not defend well at 13 last week

                No specialist outside back reserve. I guess Black moves to fullback if anyone gets injured. That's surprising because they are meant to sub Rieko after 47mins.

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                @Duluth said in Jaguares vs Blues:

                I would prefer TJ and Nonu the other way around. It went ok in week one and TJ did not defend well at 13 last week

                No specialist outside back reserve. I guess Black moves to fullback if anyone gets injured. That's surprising because they are meant to sub Rieko after 47mins.

                Black to fullback and Nanai back to his preferred wing position.

                TJ can probably cover wing in an emergency also.

                Nonu looked a little out at sea at 13 also. He could probably use TJ better when he’s at 12 than the other way round.

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                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                  @Duluth I wonder if the Blues have been given a bit of leeway on Rieko given that they are on tour + Clarke's injury + theyve got the Sunwolves next week.

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                  @KiwiMurph said in Jaguares vs Blues:

                  @Duluth I wonder if the Blues have been given a bit of leeway on Rieko given that they are on tour + Clarke's injury + theyve got the Sunwolves next week.

                  I hope so

                  The bye after the Sunwolves helps that argument too

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                  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                    @Duluth said in Jaguares vs Blues:

                    I would prefer TJ and Nonu the other way around. It went ok in week one and TJ did not defend well at 13 last week

                    No specialist outside back reserve. I guess Black moves to fullback if anyone gets injured. That's surprising because they are meant to sub Rieko after 47mins.

                    Black to fullback and Nanai back to his preferred wing position.

                    TJ can probably cover wing in an emergency also.

                    Nonu looked a little out at sea at 13 also. He could probably use TJ better when he’s at 12 than the other way round.

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                    @ACT-Crusader said in Jaguares vs Blues:

                    Nonu looked a little out at sea at 13 also. He could probably use TJ better when he’s at 12 than the other way round.

                    TJ has struggled with defence at this level and he gets beaten easily when there's a bit of room. I prefer him defending in narrower channels

                    Last week he made 3 tackles and missed 5

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                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                      @Duluth I wonder if the Blues have been given a bit of leeway on Rieko given that they are on tour + Clarke's injury + theyve got the Sunwolves next week.

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                      @KiwiMurph I'd say the 180 mins in 3 rounds is a 'guide' so Rieko likely to come off after 55/60 mins.

                      Similarly with BBBR supposedly needing to come off before the half, I would say he'll do a full half, maybe even a few on the other side.

                      190 mins aint gonna be a big deal (unless they are unlucky enough to get injured in the last couple of mins...)

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                        Confirmation that Rieko and Tuipulotu will have to sub early

                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/110951992/super-rugby-blues-resist-rest-for-top-all-blacks-rieko-ioane-patrick-tupulotu

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                          The Blues have made three of their four personnel changes in the backs, handing a first start to impressive rookie Tanielu Tele'a on the right wing, moving Melani Nanai back to fullback with Michael Collins dropping out of the 23 altogether and bringing back Ma'a Nonu to start at second five-eighths

                          Holy shit - it's almost as if the coaches read the Fern too. How long has it taken to have Collins dumped?

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                            The Blues have made three of their four personnel changes in the backs, handing a first start to impressive rookie Tanielu Tele'a on the right wing, moving Melani Nanai back to fullback with Michael Collins dropping out of the 23 altogether and bringing back Ma'a Nonu to start at second five-eighths

                            Holy shit - it's almost as if the coaches read the Fern too. How long has it taken to have Collins dumped?

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                            @antipodean They dropped Collins out of the 23 last week but Caleb Clarke got injured in the final training run so Collins ended up starting.

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                              Wouldve preferred Tele'a to either bench again given his impact off it - or given a go in the midfield but probably the only option given the squad they have at the moment. So when Rieko goes to the bench , TJ goes to the wing and SBW 12? Telea has decent speed but probably not Super rugby wingers pace....Jaguares may look to expose/target this?

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                                Wouldve preferred Tele'a to either bench again given his impact off it - or given a go in the midfield but probably the only option given the squad they have at the moment. So when Rieko goes to the bench , TJ goes to the wing and SBW 12? Telea has decent speed but probably not Super rugby wingers pace....Jaguares may look to expose/target this?

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                                @Nogusta When Rieko goes off - Otere to 15, Plummer to 10, Nanai to wing is another option. SBW to replace Nonu i'd say.

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                                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                  @Nogusta When Rieko goes off - Otere to 15, Plummer to 10, Nanai to wing is another option. SBW to replace Nonu i'd say.

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                                  @KiwiMurph said in Jaguares vs Blues:

                                  @Nogusta When Rieko goes off - Otere to 15, Plummer to 10, Nanai to wing is another option. SBW to replace Nonu i'd say.

                                  I’d rather SBW and Nonu keep swapping like that. You can’t play them together any more. Too slow.

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                                    I know he's coming back from injury, but Cowley-Tuioti needs a big game.

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                                      Juan Cruz Mallia, Bautista Delguy, Matias Moroni, Matias Orlando, Ramiro Moyano, Joaquin Diaz Bonilla, Tomas Cubelli, Javier Ortega Desio, Marcos Kremer, Pablo Matera (c), Tomas Lavanini, Guido Petti, Santiago Medrano, Agustin Creevy, Mayco Vivas

                                      Reserves: Julian Montoya, Juan Pablo Zeiss, Enrique Piertto, Matias Alemanni, Rodrigo Bruni, Martin Landajo, Santiago Gonzalez Iglesias, Joaquin Tuculet

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                                        Wouldve preferred Tele'a to either bench again given his impact off it - or given a go in the midfield but probably the only option given the squad they have at the moment. So when Rieko goes to the bench , TJ goes to the wing and SBW 12? Telea has decent speed but probably not Super rugby wingers pace....Jaguares may look to expose/target this?

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                                        @Nogusta said in Jaguares vs Blues:

                                        Wouldve preferred Tele'a to either bench again given his impact off it - or given a go in the midfield

                                        I hope he starts at 13 vs the Sunwolves. If he goes well, it solves a few problems.

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                                        • DuluthD Duluth

                                          @Nogusta said in Jaguares vs Blues:

                                          Wouldve preferred Tele'a to either bench again given his impact off it - or given a go in the midfield

                                          I hope he starts at 13 vs the Sunwolves. If he goes well, it solves a few problems.

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                                          @Duluth duffie and trainor should be in the mix as back 3 options for that game too - meaning Tele'a may not have to play wing.

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