The rebuild of M4L and a new challenge
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@JK i assume he doesn't have a family? or does he just not like them?
@taniwharugby i regularly do 2.5km in the pool when i am deeper in to my training, so the 3km swims i can imagine. He'll be doing more than that though, the IM swim is 3.8km. And open ocean in Kona as well isn't it?
I don't like the training enough to do that much. Quite like being on the bike (fuck off rain so i can get out again) but swimming and running i find boring. So the thought of those sort of distances with that sort of regularity seems insane.
I've got a mate who has taken up those ultra-marathon trail runs. The numbers he racks up are unreal. And it's all hills. He's fucking mad. I think he's looking at doing a 100km one this year? Jesus.
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@mariner4life ha I think the furtherest I swam was when I started as a lifeguard when I was about 18 and they took me out for a blat in the IRB in some heavy surf, then dropped me at a buoy about 500m off shore and told me I had to swim back to shore (they knew I could swim)
But in a pool, It'd do my head in.
I rarely do any runs over 5 or 6km.
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A mate of mine is a jolly fat fucker, but used to do ultra marathons. On facebook he posted a photo of him from a few years back and it looks like he ate the person in the photo. Someone asked him what happened and he put it simply; "I stopped running +100km every week."
Running for me wasn't an issue; I could easily get into a mental state where I could just pump out mile after mile letting the mind wander. Swimming on the other hand, I've never found a more boring sport. Small wonder I'm a terrible swimmer.
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Did the longest run of my life last night, 13km. First 8km felt great, then i started to tire, and then at 11km my knee blew right up which fuuuucking hurt. But got to the end in 1.23, which at the start i was really disappointed with, until i realised it was right on target for a 2.15 half marathon.
Strangely the lungs were fine, but i just didn't have the energy to keep turning my legs over. The fact my eating was shithouse during the day probably didn't help. And i didn't take water with me. And it was 33 degrees when i finished, let alone started.
To still have to run another 8 more km is fucked.
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Run last night was okay considering i didn't eat all day. My knee is not getting any better though, possibly because i am appalling at rehab. Fucking thing blows up at that 4k mark, and just hurts from there.
Last night was a pretty easy 8.5km in a little under 48 mins.
It's really weird to run, and not have the lungs be the thing that makes you want to have a quick walk. If i don't get my nutrition right i really fucking battle, and that knee...
But, i found that this Ska playlist i found on Spotify is great for running. I like the music, the beat is pretty regular through the whole thing, and not too fast.
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That sounds symptomatic of a broader issue. Is your flexibility the same in each leg? Do you feel like one hip is falling away in a stride? Is one leg more powerful than the other?
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@antipodean said in The rebuild of M4L and a new challenge:
That sounds symptomatic of a broader issue. Is your flexibility the same in each leg? Do you feel like one hip is falling away in a stride? Is one leg more powerful than the other?
it's something in my hip/groin that is pulling my ITB tight that results in a flaring pain just below my knee joint. I have exercises to do, and i am supposed to be on the roller all the time. I am not good at doing either.
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@mariner4life get yo ass (well quads) on that roller bro. IT stuff is way easier to manage than many people think. Rolling that shit out hurts like a mofo, but that band is the cause of so many knee and hip issues.
I tip my hat to you bro, I'd just stop once my knee was hurting. Hell, I stop once my lungs start hurting!!
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@Paekakboyz said in The rebuild of M4L and a new challenge:
@mariner4life get yo ass (well quads) on that roller bro. IT stuff is way easier to manage than many people think. Rolling that shit out hurts like a mofo, but that band is the cause of so many knee and hip issues.
I tip my hat to you bro, I'd just stop once my knee was hurting. Hell, I stop once my lungs start hurting!!
I wouldn't even start.
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yea, it's fucked. Our resident physio may correct me, but it's my understanding that you can't actually stretch your ITB, what you need to do is break the connections to your muscles and shit. And the only way to do that is on the roller. Which sucks all of the dick.
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As for running through it, i find it hurts for a while, i have a quick walk to calm it down, and then it dulls enough that i can keep going. My stride gets a bit ugly for a while though.
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@mariner4life but once you get used to that level of ... fun. It does get easier. Esp one you progress past a wussy soft roller and to a solid roller or a ball or something. If you are squishing the roller you need something harder to really hit the tight spots. Feel free to cut and paste that over to the other thread
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The roller is your best friend. Once you engage the masochist in you you'll enjoy the pain and the accompanying release. I have (had) tight ITBs and horribly inflexible hamstrings and the roller makes a huge difference.
After sprint intervals, doing a recovery run the next day without spending a few minutes on the roller is agony. Thankfully after 15-20 mins things tend to loosen up and I always finish runs faster than I start. Negative splits ftw.
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First real mental setback today. Set out for a 14 km run. Battled from about 7, and then completely broke down at 10k. Ankle, knee and groin all flared up, and I just didn't have any energy in my legs.
So, for what I think is the first time in my life, I quit. Switched off the watch and just walked home, broken.
Confidence has taken a massive hit.
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Just build up again. There's a world of difference between battling through discomfort and pain. Good athletes also listen to their body so if its not responding, stop and assess. It's not like a training run is a race.
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@mariner4life said in The rebuild of M4L and a new challenge:
First real mental setback today. Set out for a 14 km run. Battled from about 7, and then completely broke down at 10k. Ankle, knee and groin all flared up, and I just didn't have any energy in my legs.
So, for what I think is the first time in my life, I quit. Switched off the watch and just walked home, broken.
Confidence has taken a massive hit.
Triple threat by the sounds of it. Running really can be murder on the legs. Maybe just cut it out and focus more on the swimming for a bit?You'll still get the aerobic fitness you need. Sounds like your lower half needs a bit of r and r.
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Much better. Comfortable, pain-free 8.5km at a consistent 5.30-5.40 pace. Felt good at the end of it.
Recovery time for heart rate is really quick, lungs barely blowing today.
Fucking hot and stuffy though.
Can now write Saturday off as a very bad day at the office.
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So I signed up today for an Olympic distance. It's next Sunday. That'll sort out where I am
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fuuuuck. just did a 1500m swim to make sure i can still actually do the distance. it was sloooow. i might be last out of the water on Sunday.
@SammyC what the fuck do you think about when you are swimming those big distances? I get bored, and think about some random shit.
