Chiefs vs Sunwolves
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@Nevorian said in Chiefs vs Sunwolves:
@Bones said in Chiefs vs Sunwolves:
@Nevorian said in Chiefs vs Sunwolves:
@Bones said in Chiefs vs Sunwolves:
Just who have the Chiefs lost in the off-season that would have changed things?
Sam Cane?
Who did he sign with?
Ahhh no-one but he is not exactly available is he?
Good example of the player drain. Thanks.
@Bones said in Chiefs vs Sunwolves:
@Nevorian said in Chiefs vs Sunwolves:
@Bones said in Chiefs vs Sunwolves:
@Nevorian said in Chiefs vs Sunwolves:
@Bones said in Chiefs vs Sunwolves:
Just who have the Chiefs lost in the off-season that would have changed things?
Sam Cane?
Who did he sign with?
Ahhh no-one but he is not exactly available is he?
Good example of the player drain. Thanks.
FFS Bones who mentioned anything about player drain - I am talking about players who have been lost to the playing list over the off season which for Super Rugby started in about July2018. I know you are upset about the Chiefs loss of form but don't take it out on me
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@Bones said in Chiefs vs Sunwolves:
@Nevorian said in Chiefs vs Sunwolves:
@Bones said in Chiefs vs Sunwolves:
@Nevorian said in Chiefs vs Sunwolves:
@Bones said in Chiefs vs Sunwolves:
Just who have the Chiefs lost in the off-season that would have changed things?
Sam Cane?
Who did he sign with?
Ahhh no-one but he is not exactly available is he?
Good example of the player drain. Thanks.
FFS Bones who mentioned anything about player drain - I am talking about players who have been lost to the playing list over the off season which for Super Rugby started in about July2018. I know you are upset about the Chiefs loss of form but don't take it out on me
@Nevorian said in Chiefs vs Sunwolves:
@Bones said in Chiefs vs Sunwolves:
@Nevorian said in Chiefs vs Sunwolves:
@Bones said in Chiefs vs Sunwolves:
@Nevorian said in Chiefs vs Sunwolves:
@Bones said in Chiefs vs Sunwolves:
Just who have the Chiefs lost in the off-season that would have changed things?
Sam Cane?
Who did he sign with?
Ahhh no-one but he is not exactly available is he?
Good example of the player drain. Thanks.
FFS Bones who mentioned anything about player drain - I am talking about players who have been lost to the playing list over the off season which for Super Rugby started in about July2018. I know you are upset about the Chiefs loss of form but don't take it out on me
Haha! What? Firstly, why would I be all that fussed about the Chiefs loss? Secondly, you were responding to a query in response to someone bemoaning players leaving NZ. Well done.
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@broughie said in Chiefs vs Sunwolves:
@Stargazer Agree but they were horrible against the Crusaders. But we were dominating last year except for the Blues and this year not even close.
So after 5 weeks of Super rugby last season
Landers 3-0
Saders 2-2
Blues 1-3
Chiefs 2-1
Canes 2-1@ACT-Crusader So you are saying the records are similiar. Ok maybe but do you have a positive feeling about the way NZ teams are playing. I don't. I see other teams improving and teams we normally beat are beating us.
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@ACT-Crusader So you are saying the records are similiar. Ok maybe but do you have a positive feeling about the way NZ teams are playing. I don't. I see other teams improving and teams we normally beat are beating us.
@broughie said in Chiefs vs Sunwolves:
@ACT-Crusader So you are saying the records are similiar. Ok maybe but do you have a positive feeling about the way NZ teams are playing. I don't. I see other teams improving and teams we normally beat are beating us.
- The Crusaders have started strong, despite being slow starters in previous years.
- The Blues have shown signs of improvement.
- The Canes have started well, getting the W against the Tahs away and then smoking the Brumbies.
- The Landers look solid, certainly plenty to build on.
And that's with all the big limitations on ABs, as well as senior players no doubt having an eye on the big dance later in the year.
By my estimation it's only the Chiefs that have obviously gone backwards.
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@broughie said in Chiefs vs Sunwolves:
@ACT-Crusader So you are saying the records are similiar. Ok maybe but do you have a positive feeling about the way NZ teams are playing. I don't. I see other teams improving and teams we normally beat are beating us.
- The Crusaders have started strong, despite being slow starters in previous years.
- The Blues have shown signs of improvement.
- The Canes have started well, getting the W against the Tahs away and then smoking the Brumbies.
- The Landers look solid, certainly plenty to build on.
And that's with all the big limitations on ABs, as well as senior players no doubt having an eye on the big dance later in the year.
By my estimation it's only the Chiefs that have obviously gone backwards.
@No-Quarter Ok. So you guys are more optimistic. Hope you are right.
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without Cane there alongside BBBR (for his minutes) the Chiefs are seriously lacking some grunt on both sides of the ball.
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[Chiefs CEO] Collins, who himself played 81 matches as a prop for the Chiefs between 1997-2005, including captaining the team in 1999
So that's why this feels like a blast from the past...!
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@broughie said in Chiefs vs Sunwolves:
@ACT-Crusader So you are saying the records are similiar. Ok maybe but do you have a positive feeling about the way NZ teams are playing. I don't. I see other teams improving and teams we normally beat are beating us.
- The Crusaders have started strong, despite being slow starters in previous years.
- The Blues have shown signs of improvement.
- The Canes have started well, getting the W against the Tahs away and then smoking the Brumbies.
- The Landers look solid, certainly plenty to build on.
And that's with all the big limitations on ABs, as well as senior players no doubt having an eye on the big dance later in the year.
By my estimation it's only the Chiefs that have obviously gone backwards.
@No-Quarter said in Chiefs vs Sunwolves:
@broughie said in Chiefs vs Sunwolves:
@ACT-Crusader So you are saying the records are similiar. Ok maybe but do you have a positive feeling about the way NZ teams are playing. I don't. I see other teams improving and teams we normally beat are beating us.
- The Crusaders have started strong, despite being slow starters in previous years.
- The Blues have shown signs of improvement.
- The Canes have started well, getting the W against the Tahs away and then smoking the Brumbies.
- The Landers look solid, certainly plenty to build on.
The Crusaders have never been slow starters and win.
When they start slow, i.e. the Blackadder era, they didn't win.
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@No-Quarter said in Chiefs vs Sunwolves:
@broughie said in Chiefs vs Sunwolves:
@ACT-Crusader So you are saying the records are similiar. Ok maybe but do you have a positive feeling about the way NZ teams are playing. I don't. I see other teams improving and teams we normally beat are beating us.
- The Crusaders have started strong, despite being slow starters in previous years.
- The Blues have shown signs of improvement.
- The Canes have started well, getting the W against the Tahs away and then smoking the Brumbies.
- The Landers look solid, certainly plenty to build on.
The Crusaders have never been slow starters and win.
When they start slow, i.e. the Blackadder era, they didn't win.
@Chester-Draws said in Chiefs vs Sunwolves:
@No-Quarter said in Chiefs vs Sunwolves:
@broughie said in Chiefs vs Sunwolves:
@ACT-Crusader So you are saying the records are similiar. Ok maybe but do you have a positive feeling about the way NZ teams are playing. I don't. I see other teams improving and teams we normally beat are beating us.
- The Crusaders have started strong, despite being slow starters in previous years.
- The Blues have shown signs of improvement.
- The Canes have started well, getting the W against the Tahs away and then smoking the Brumbies.
- The Landers look solid, certainly plenty to build on.
The Crusaders have never been slow starters and win.
When they start slow, i.e. the Blackadder era, they didn't win.
We had maybe one win from four or five games when we won in 1998. Last year we were 1-2 or 2-2. There's a couple of examples of slow starts in title years.
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@ACT-Crusader So you are saying the records are similiar. Ok maybe but do you have a positive feeling about the way NZ teams are playing. I don't. I see other teams improving and teams we normally beat are beating us.
@broughie said in Chiefs vs Sunwolves:
@ACT-Crusader So you are saying the records are similiar. Ok maybe but do you have a positive feeling about the way NZ teams are playing. I don't. I see other teams improving and teams we normally beat are beating us.
Firstly the way I view Super Rugby is that as long as the Crusaders are playing well, that’s all that really matters to me as that’s who I support in this competiton.
Highlanders are my second favourite team so will generally support them, but I don’t get too worked up about what is happening otherwise. I watch all the games as a rugby fan, but it’s a competition that if you look at its history, NZ teams have had their share of ups and downs.
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Post RWC the 2020 competition will be interesting. It's fair to assume there will be a good 50+ players lost to European clubs across the competition and this could either be a further leveller or put some space between some sides. Either way, the general standard will slip slightly, once again.
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Post RWC the 2020 competition will be interesting. It's fair to assume there will be a good 50+ players lost to European clubs across the competition and this could either be a further leveller or put some space between some sides. Either way, the general standard will slip slightly, once again.
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@broughie said in Chiefs vs Sunwolves:
@ACT-Crusader So you are saying the records are similiar. Ok maybe but do you have a positive feeling about the way NZ teams are playing. I don't. I see other teams improving and teams we normally beat are beating us.
Firstly the way I view Super Rugby is that as long as the Crusaders are playing well, that’s all that really matters to me as that’s who I support in this competiton.
Highlanders are my second favourite team so will generally support them, but I don’t get too worked up about what is happening otherwise. I watch all the games as a rugby fan, but it’s a competition that if you look at its history, NZ teams have had their share of ups and downs.
@ACT-Crusader Yes a very parochial response but understandable. I don't really have any allegiances since removed from the country for a long time so I like seeing all teams play well. The Chiefs have been good for a while so it is disappointing to see their demise but that says a lot about Rennie. The Blues are worthless although I have confidence that McDonald and co can fix this. Did not see Tana in the coaches box in Argentina. Did anyone notice that?
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@ACT-Crusader Yes a very parochial response but understandable. I don't really have any allegiances since removed from the country for a long time so I like seeing all teams play well. The Chiefs have been good for a while so it is disappointing to see their demise but that says a lot about Rennie. The Blues are worthless although I have confidence that McDonald and co can fix this. Did not see Tana in the coaches box in Argentina. Did anyone notice that?
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@broughie said in Chiefs vs Sunwolves:
Did not see Tana in the coaches box in Argentina. Did anyone notice that?
He was the waterboy (along with Duffie)
The Blues usually have one of their coaches doing that job. Jackson did it a lot last year
