Hurricanes vs Crusaders
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@KiwiMurph said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:
Very well worked try Crusaders.
Mounga has schooled Beauden tonight.
That's the third straight Canes - Saders game in which both played, that Mo'unga has outplayed BB.
BB needs to up his game. Fortunately, there's still time, but come RWC time, he should be a lot better than he's now.
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@Machpants said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:
@Canerbry Mo'unga is flaky, has real shit games (see last week)
Lol... Mo’unga hasnt played since 3 weeks ago
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@Kirwan said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:
@Canerbry he doesn’t play this bad when he basically has the Cantab forward pack for the ABs, so we have a direct comparison.
I also said it was the worst game I’ve seen him play.
He doesn't play this bad? That's not a particularly high bar.
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@SammyC said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:
@Machpants said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:
@Canerbry Mo'unga is flaky, has real shit games (see last week)
Lol... Mo’unga hasnt played since 3 weeks ago
@Canerbry shit I'll take that back, you're right - I was conflating the shit 10 performance with him. But I stand by Mo'unga is still flaky, but he also can 'traditional 10' when required
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Mo'unga didn't out-play Beaudy at all - because Mo'unga really didn't have to over-play his hand, and except for that clear-as-day-its-coming intercept Beaudy wasn't the Cane's biggest problem.
The Crusaders game plan went like this... "just make your tackles, because the Cane's will just keep fucking it up."
That was a shitty 80min of rugby. Just trash. Normally you'd assume a scoreline like that the Crusaders dominated the scrum & lineout, but Canes had the better (if it was even being refereed properly) yet they were all-round pants right across the park.
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@KiwiMurph said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:
Cameron still manages to look shit with his team up 24 with a few minutes left. Cripes.
I hope they'll now pick Mitch Hunt on the bench again. Without being brilliant, he's so much better than Cameron.
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@KiwiMurph said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:
@Kirwan said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:
@Canerbry he doesn’t play this bad when he basically has the Cantab forward pack for the ABs, so we have a direct comparison.
I also said it was the worst game I’ve seen him play.
He doesn't play this bad? That's not a particularly high bar.
And it's pretty big game, the sort of important game you'd expect a top-class player to at least turn up not least step up for, no?
@Machpants um, any examples of "flakyness"? Compared to, say, someone like, um, Beauden Barrett? Mo'ounga to me appears your classic "solid" first-five.
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Crusaders really missing Franks and Moody....and Perry (and Crockett). Getting touched up at some scrums by the Canes. However, if we play them again, hopefully we'll have a bit more front row firepower. Razor needs to be looking for Owen Franks' replacement though - I'm not convinced it is Jager.
Liking the look of Ennor - he's got a bit of the Jack "rarely makes a mistake" Goodhue about him.
Scott Barrett should have just kept running for that try.
I'm extremely doubtful that Hansen will entrust the 10 jersey to the still rookie Mo'unga, but I wouldn't be panicking if he did.
AB second five remains a quandrary for me. Tonight showed that Laumape can be pretty well shut down by a good defence.
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Difference between the two teams is the impact and decision making of the Canes forwards.
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Outplayed, out coached, Saders back to business as usual. Tahs can feel very lucky they caught them last week.
Beauden has never been a natural 10, but he's made up for it by doing unbelievable things on the field. But his form has deserted him recently and he doesn't have a "basics" type of game to fall back on like Carter did. He will likely be better in the black shirt, but I don't think we make the most of his talents at 10. Give him space and a license to roam and he can break a game apart.
Good to see Mo'unga now playing some consistent footy, he will push hard for the AB 10 jersey. Though I have a bad feeling Hansen will stick to his guns and keep selecting Beauden at 10 instead of being open to shifting him to the back.
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@No-Quarter said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:
Outplayed, out coached, Saders back to business as usual. Tahs can feel very lucky they caught them last week.
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@No-Quarter said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:
Outplayed, out coached, Saders back to business as usual. Tahs can feel very lucky they caught them last week.
Beauden has never been a natural 10, but he's made up for it by doing unbelievable things on the field. But his form has deserted him recently and he doesn't have a "basics" type of game to fallback on like Carter did. He will likely be better in the black shirt, but I don't think we make the most of his talents at 10. Give him space and a license to roam and he can break a game apart.
Good to see Mo'unga now playing some consistent footy, he will push hard for the AB 10 jersey. Though I have a bad feeling Hansen will stick to his guns and keep selecting Beauden at 10 instead of being open to shifting him to the back.
Yeah, BB probably starting at 10 in the big games, and Mo'unga getting the start against the lesser teams.
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@Chris-B said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:
Crusaders really missing Franks and Moody....and Perry (and Crockett). Getting touched up at some scrums by the Canes. However, if we play them again, hopefully we'll have a bit more front row firepower. Razor needs to be looking for Owen Franks' replacement though - I'm not convinced it is Jager.
Liking the look of Ennor - he's got a bit of the Jack "rarely makes a mistake" Goodhue about him. Except Goodhue has the better mullett
Scott Barrett should have just kept running for that try. Thought he would have sold the dummy, especially as he only had his brother to beat
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@Rembrandt ask for a refund.
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Richie takes on the line and has a step and that little burst. As opppsed to Barrett who spots a gap and then tries to gas it. Tonight there weren’t many gaps for Barrett because the Crusader defence was well organised and the Canes weren’t breaking the line that often.
Very noticeable difference from last week was how flat Richie stands in comparison to Cameron and Hunt. That’s a player with confidence and quicker reaction time.
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The Canes were weighed,they were quartered and they were found wanting..beaten in all the stats that mattered,but the most telling thing to me was B Barrett,N Laumape & A Savea were all quiet..completely kept in check by the back to back champs..Tiatia & Lam we’re both exposed by a couple of very good kicks.
I also thought that despite Read leaving the field after 40 that he put in a very good shift,hope the injury is not to serious -
He doesn't get much credit, but David Havili has been stringing some good games together this season. He was probably the only Crusader playing well last week, and today's game was good as well. Two good tries tonight, almost three. Yes, Tiatia made a mistake, but Havili was the one to spot the space, make the kick, chase it and score the try. Showed skill when scoring his 2nd try, too.
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I thought our tight 5 played really well in a losing effort was really impressed with Mitchell and Blackwell our loonies were very quiet for a change. Think our backs really need some penetration as the seemed very stagnant very worried about the Highlanders next week now.
