Chiefs vs Blues
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@Stargazer said in Chiefs vs Blues:
@booboo said in Chiefs vs Blues:
@Stargazer said in Chiefs vs Blues:
Tahuriorangi gets 8 minutes.
I know Chiefs won, but he is demonstrably better than Weber.
My point being: we don't get to see the proof of that. It's a head-scratcher.
Maybe the ABs don't want a reverse Folau.
Players should keep their opinions to themselves, until after they retire. If I was AB selector, I would pick someone other than Weber if it was a close call. He's not good enough for them to wear any heat at all.
(Note, I'm not actually in opposition to Weber's statements so far. I just don't think ABs should start making any political and social statements, because it can only end in tears. If Weber gets to make rainbow statements, why should Fafita not get to put his position too? Quite apart from anything else, it cannot help team unity if some people are allowed to say what they think and others are not.)
@Chester-Draws said in Chiefs vs Blues:
@Stargazer said in Chiefs vs Blues:
@booboo said in Chiefs vs Blues:
@Stargazer said in Chiefs vs Blues:
Tahuriorangi gets 8 minutes.
I know Chiefs won, but he is demonstrably better than Weber.
My point being: we don't get to see the proof of that. It's a head-scratcher.
Maybe the ABs don't want a reverse Folau.
Players should keep their opinions to themselves, until after they retire. If I was AB selector, I would pick someone other than Weber if it was a close call. He's not good enough for them to wear any heat at all.
(Note, I'm not actually in opposition to Weber's statements so far. I just don't think ABs should start making any political and social statements, because it can only end in tears. If Weber gets to make rainbow statements, why should Fafita not get to put his position too? Quite apart from anything else, it cannot help team unity if some people are allowed to say what they think and others are not.)
That's total bs. He's hardly the only one publically disagreeing with Folau and warning against the potentially harmful effects of statements like Folau's on young people struggling with their sexual identity. Perenara, Milner-Skudder, Ardie Savea etc.
What they've all said is also entirely consistent with the ABs policies regarding inclusiveness and mental health. I don't see any reason why they shouldn't been able to say those things, considering that those statements - unlike Folau's - aren't discriminating or otherwise harmful to anyone.
Anyway, I don't want that discussion in this thread as well, but Weber's non-selection for the ABs has absolutely zero to do with his public statements on social or other issues.
I'll explain my point about TTT though. My point was - again - that we don't get to see any proof of him being the right player for the 3rd halfback spot in the ABs. He gets so little game time, that we actually can't see that he is better than anyone else (Smith and Perenara excluded). I wasn't only thinking of a comparison with Weber, but also Hall and even Drummond.
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We are definitely keeping TTT’s powder dry for the RWC
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Nonu beat 10 defenders in this game, which is unreal considering his age. Most players can't even do that once in their careers. It's just not normal for someone to carry their explosiveness for this long.
Karl T was awesome. Loving the scrummaging but also the ball skills and ball carrying of his this season.
Faiane is owning that 13 jersey. Master stroke by Leon to shove him out there. Does so much work every week and is working well with Nonu and the outsides.
Robinson, Tuipulotu and Papali'i were massive again. Papali'i reminds me a bit of a young Kieran, just a do-it-all kind of backrower.
Happy enough with how Otere is tracking now. Just keep the errors down, kick your goals and that will do for now. Nonu and TJ helped out quite a bit with running the backline in this game, but that's OK.
Some of the bench players played well. Jed Brown had a pretty good debut game.
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@antipodean yeah pretty sure Hodgman was meant to carry, draw the defender, but he threw the 50/50, ah well, plenty of other opportunities, shouldn’t dwell on that last play.
@Northlandallday Hodgman threw the pass to Moulds who got collected by the tackler at the same time..mind you it’s insignificant compared to the efforts of the Alan Parsons project who threw a short intercept pass because he virtually sent an invitation to Brad Weber and just to top it off,a piss poor weak as attempted tackle on ALB which lead to a try ..
Watched him standing in the huddle at the end of the game..the look on his face said everything..I should be starting off the bench in the next game against the Highlanders....but it won’t happen..because he trains the house down.
The Blues are now developing a very hard working and solid work ethic to their pack ,but Parsons is now starting to look the one that’s been part of this team for far too long and will not get any better..where I do believe there’s massive improvement in the other 7 that started last nights match. -
after that try when the Chiefs winger ran over top of Caleb Clarke I thought it was a bit rough he was allowed to stand outside the circle while everyone was regathering, its times like that, particularly with a young fella you bring him in and pick him up rather than leave him outside so he feels even worse for missing the tackle...am sure it wasnt deliberate or anything, just something I noticed.
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Nonu beat 10 defenders in this game, which is unreal considering his age. Most players can't even do that once in their careers. It's just not normal for someone to carry their explosiveness for this long.
Karl T was awesome. Loving the scrummaging but also the ball skills and ball carrying of his this season.
Faiane is owning that 13 jersey. Master stroke by Leon to shove him out there. Does so much work every week and is working well with Nonu and the outsides.
Robinson, Tuipulotu and Papali'i were massive again. Papali'i reminds me a bit of a young Kieran, just a do-it-all kind of backrower.
Happy enough with how Otere is tracking now. Just keep the errors down, kick your goals and that will do for now. Nonu and TJ helped out quite a bit with running the backline in this game, but that's OK.
Some of the bench players played well. Jed Brown had a pretty good debut game.
@Dice said in Chiefs vs Blues:
Nonu beat 10 defenders in this game, which is unreal considering his age. Most players can't even do that once in their careers. It's just not normal for someone to carry their explosiveness for this long.
Karl T was awesome. Loving the scrummaging but also the ball skills and ball carrying of his this season.
Faiane is owning that 13 jersey. Master stroke by Leon to shove him out there. Does so much work every week and is working well with Nonu and the outsides.
Robinson, Tuipulotu and Papali'i were massive again. Papali'i reminds me a bit of a young Kieran, just a do-it-all kind of backrower.
Happy enough with how Otere is tracking now. Just keep the errors down, kick your goals and that will do for now. Nonu and TJ helped out quite a bit with running the backline in this game, but that's OK.
Some of the bench players played well. Jed Brown had a pretty good debut game.
You do know the Blues lost?
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@Dice said in Chiefs vs Blues:
Nonu beat 10 defenders in this game, which is unreal considering his age. Most players can't even do that once in their careers. It's just not normal for someone to carry their explosiveness for this long.
Karl T was awesome. Loving the scrummaging but also the ball skills and ball carrying of his this season.
Faiane is owning that 13 jersey. Master stroke by Leon to shove him out there. Does so much work every week and is working well with Nonu and the outsides.
Robinson, Tuipulotu and Papali'i were massive again. Papali'i reminds me a bit of a young Kieran, just a do-it-all kind of backrower.
Happy enough with how Otere is tracking now. Just keep the errors down, kick your goals and that will do for now. Nonu and TJ helped out quite a bit with running the backline in this game, but that's OK.
Some of the bench players played well. Jed Brown had a pretty good debut game.
You do know the Blues lost?
@Chester-Draws I didn't watch the game...
I didn't feel like pointing out the negatives. I enjoyed the game.
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after that try when the Chiefs winger ran over top of Caleb Clarke I thought it was a bit rough he was allowed to stand outside the circle while everyone was regathering, its times like that, particularly with a young fella you bring him in and pick him up rather than leave him outside so he feels even worse for missing the tackle...am sure it wasnt deliberate or anything, just something I noticed.
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@taniwharugby I think he was regathering himself. He got rocked from that tackle attempt and seemed a bit dazed.
@Dice realise that, but someone shoulda still pulled him in...probably shoulda had an HIA too.
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Update from Nigel Yalden re DMac.
"starting to hear whispers that he’s gone for the season - ACL done supposedly"
"rumours only mate but good sources"
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@akan004 Bloody awful for the lad. Does "season" include the RWC?
PS: I hope those sources are wrong.
@Stargazer Not sure but I would think so. Normally it's a 6-9 month injury.
Yeah, let's hope it's wrong, but Nigel's sources are usually pretty accurate.
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Gee that is hard luck for the Chiefs and the All Blacks. Not that keen on him at 10 but coming on at fullback in Tests with 20 odd to go he has been pretty handy.
@Unite He is easily the biggest Chiefs weapon, was in bloody great touch aswell. Hopefully this injury doesn't cause him too much trouble going forward and I hope he recovers in time for the WC. Perfect impact player for us off the bench.
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Update from Nigel Yalden re DMac.
"starting to hear whispers that he’s gone for the season - ACL done supposedly"
"rumours only mate but good sources"
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@Donsteppa said in Chiefs vs Blues:
Noooooooooo!
Just when he was getting a decent run at fullback & doing a great job too.
Agreed. He looked as good as ever once he had more room and could choose when to inject himself.
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@Unite He is easily the biggest Chiefs weapon, was in bloody great touch aswell. Hopefully this injury doesn't cause him too much trouble going forward and I hope he recovers in time for the WC. Perfect impact player for us off the bench.
@Canes4life said in Chiefs vs Blues:
@Unite He is easily the biggest Chiefs weapon, was in bloody great touch aswell. Hopefully this injury doesn't cause him too much trouble going forward and I hope he recovers in time for the WC. Perfect impact player for us off the bench.
Deep down you know you don’t
Jordie’s stock has now risen from making up the numbers in that 41 to a genuine chance to make the 31
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@Canes4life said in Chiefs vs Blues:
@Unite He is easily the biggest Chiefs weapon, was in bloody great touch aswell. Hopefully this injury doesn't cause him too much trouble going forward and I hope he recovers in time for the WC. Perfect impact player for us off the bench.
Deep down you know you don’t
Jordie’s stock has now risen from making up the numbers in that 41 to a genuine chance to make the 31
@ACT-Crusader nah I'd prefer McKenzie as a fullback replacement. He is deadly against tired defences.
I have always stood by my view that Jordie is a 12 - he isn't bad in other positions but not enough to warrant selection over McKenzie.
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They need to train these security guards better. I can understand the desire to keep your gaze up, but you need to be focusing on the runners core to determine which way he is going to go
