Crusaders v Rebels
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A game of "if it could".
If it could go wrong for the Rebels, it did.
If it could go right for the Crusaders, it did.@antipodean said in Crusaders v Rebels:
A game of "if it could".
If it could go wrong for the Rebels, it did.
If it could go right for the Crusaders, it did.Not quite. If that were the case Read would have been on the score sheet and Ennor would have had four. It would have been 80-0.
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@Chris-B said in Crusaders v Rebels:
Nice work, Razor - needs to be a bit careful with the bye week, that can work against you, but taking plenty of momentum into it.
Any handle on who might be heading to Christchurch? Or too congested to tell yet?
@nzzp said in Crusaders v Rebels:
@Chris-B said in Crusaders v Rebels:
Nice work, Razor - needs to be a bit careful with the bye week, that can work against you, but taking plenty of momentum into it.
Any handle on who might be heading to Christchurch? Or too congested to tell yet?
A quick bit of analysis this morning. The crucial first tiebreaker is the team with the most wins - which hurts those with lots of draws - especially the Highlanders.
https://www.superxv.com/super-rugby/super-rugby-rules/
According to me:
Crusaders, Jaguares, Brumbies and Hurricanes are safely in the eight.The Bulls are effectively safe - to miss out it will take a combination of them getting thumped by the Lions, the Rebels beating the Chiefs and The Sharks beating the Stormers, but allowing the Stormers a losing bonus point.
The Highlanders, Waratahs, Blues, Reds and Sunwolves are all gone.
So five teams fighting for three spots - and four of them are playing one another.
Simple equation for all of the Lions, Stormers, Rebels and Sharks - you win and you're in.
Lions and Stormers will probably make it with a bonus point loss. They can possibly sneak in without, if results go their way.
Chiefs need to win and likely need a bonus point - or at least to deny the Rebels one and hope the Stormers beat the Sharks. They could potentially miss out on points differential even with a bonus point win if the Sharks win and the Stormers get a bonus point and the Lions get at least a point.
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@nzzp said in Crusaders v Rebels:
@Chris-B said in Crusaders v Rebels:
Nice work, Razor - needs to be a bit careful with the bye week, that can work against you, but taking plenty of momentum into it.
Any handle on who might be heading to Christchurch? Or too congested to tell yet?
A quick bit of analysis this morning. The crucial first tiebreaker is the team with the most wins - which hurts those with lots of draws - especially the Highlanders.
https://www.superxv.com/super-rugby/super-rugby-rules/
According to me:
Crusaders, Jaguares, Brumbies and Hurricanes are safely in the eight.The Bulls are effectively safe - to miss out it will take a combination of them getting thumped by the Lions, the Rebels beating the Chiefs and The Sharks beating the Stormers, but allowing the Stormers a losing bonus point.
The Highlanders, Waratahs, Blues, Reds and Sunwolves are all gone.
So five teams fighting for three spots - and four of them are playing one another.
Simple equation for all of the Lions, Stormers, Rebels and Sharks - you win and you're in.
Lions and Stormers will probably make it with a bonus point loss. They can possibly sneak in without, if results go their way.
Chiefs need to win and likely need a bonus point - or at least to deny the Rebels one and hope the Stormers beat the Sharks. They could potentially miss out on points differential even with a bonus point win if the Sharks win and the Stormers get a bonus point and the Lions get at least a point.
@Chris-B I think the chiefs based on showing some real resolve despite a bucket load of injuries deserve to get in the finals..I think if they had their time again they would love to play the Sunwolves again , a game they may regret.
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@Chris-B I think the chiefs based on showing some real resolve despite a bucket load of injuries deserve to get in the finals..I think if they had their time again they would love to play the Sunwolves again , a game they may regret.
@Steven-Harris as a Canes fan I hope the Chiefs sneak in and somehow get a result against the Crusaders on their home turf. How far away is big Brodie?
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@Steven-Harris as a Canes fan I hope the Chiefs sneak in and somehow get a result against the Crusaders on their home turf. How far away is big Brodie?
@Canes4life originally I heard he was going to be back for the Rebels game next weekend, but a couple of weeks ago on the radio I heard it could be longer..
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@Steven-Harris as a Canes fan I hope the Chiefs sneak in and somehow get a result against the Crusaders on their home turf. How far away is big Brodie?
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Well said from the commentators, you would think after 8 years we have moved on from booing Quade Cooper..seriously people..!
@Steven-Harris said in Crusaders v Rebels:
Well said from the commentators, you would think after 8 years we have moved on from booing Quade Cooper..seriously people..!
You clearly know nothing about NZ
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@Steven-Harris said in Crusaders v Rebels:
Well said from the commentators, you would think after 8 years we have moved on from booing Quade Cooper..seriously people..!
You clearly know nothing about NZ
@NTA what I do know there’s a section of kiwis out there that need to grow up..!
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@Chris-B I think the chiefs based on showing some real resolve despite a bucket load of injuries deserve to get in the finals..I think if they had their time again they would love to play the Sunwolves again , a game they may regret.
@Steven-Harris On current form, it's hard to see the Chiefs not getting five points against the Rebels. If they do that, they need some pretty bad luck in the other games to miss out.
Reasonable likelihood of all three NZ teams being on the same side of the draw, which probably softens the Crusaders home advantage by taking out the travel factor.
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@Canes4life Don't want play us or just want the home final ?
@Chris home final, ultimately I would love to play you fellas in a Final, but the stupid conference system doesn't allow it. Maybe in 2021
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@Canes4life originally I heard he was going to be back for the Rebels game next weekend, but a couple of weeks ago on the radio I heard it could be longer..
@Steven-Harris They will need the big unit if they are going to upset the Crusaders.
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@Steven-Harris They will need the big unit if they are going to upset the Crusaders.
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@Canes4life Franks and Taylor also back for QF
@Chris Crusaders are always a different beast with Franks there. Machine at scrum time.
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@Steven-Harris said in Crusaders v Rebels:
Well said from the commentators, you would think after 8 years we have moved on from booing Quade Cooper..seriously people..!
You clearly know nothing about NZ
@NTA said in Crusaders v Rebels:
@Steven-Harris said in Crusaders v Rebels:
Well said from the commentators, you would think after 8 years we have moved on from booing Quade Cooper..seriously people..!
You clearly know nothing about
NZCantabriansPlease don't lump us all in the same boat, most Wellingtonians won't even attend a game til they sort out the Craft Beer situation at the Cake Tin.
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@NTA said in Crusaders v Rebels:
@Steven-Harris said in Crusaders v Rebels:
Well said from the commentators, you would think after 8 years we have moved on from booing Quade Cooper..seriously people..!
You clearly know nothing about
NZCantabriansPlease don't lump us all in the same boat, most Wellingtonians won't even attend a game til they sort out the Craft Beer situation at the Cake Tin.
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@Chris said in Crusaders v Rebels:
@MN5 As I remember. Cooper got his fair share of boos at the Cake tin a few games back.
Room temperature, flat Monteiths mid strength at $8 a cup is enough to make any crowd get angry and hostile.
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@Chris said in Crusaders v Rebels:
@MN5 As I remember. Cooper got his fair share of boos at the Cake tin a few games back.
Room temperature, flat Monteiths mid strength at $8 a cup is enough to make any crowd get angry and hostile.
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@nzzp said in Crusaders v Rebels:
@Chris-B said in Crusaders v Rebels:
Nice work, Razor - needs to be a bit careful with the bye week, that can work against you, but taking plenty of momentum into it.
Any handle on who might be heading to Christchurch? Or too congested to tell yet?
A quick bit of analysis this morning. The crucial first tiebreaker is the team with the most wins - which hurts those with lots of draws - especially the Highlanders.
https://www.superxv.com/super-rugby/super-rugby-rules/
According to me:
Crusaders, Jaguares, Brumbies and Hurricanes are safely in the eight.The Bulls are effectively safe - to miss out it will take a combination of them getting thumped by the Lions, the Rebels beating the Chiefs and The Sharks beating the Stormers, but allowing the Stormers a losing bonus point.
The Highlanders, Waratahs, Blues, Reds and Sunwolves are all gone.
So five teams fighting for three spots - and four of them are playing one another.
Simple equation for all of the Lions, Stormers, Rebels and Sharks - you win and you're in.
Lions and Stormers will probably make it with a bonus point loss. They can possibly sneak in without, if results go their way.
Chiefs need to win and likely need a bonus point - or at least to deny the Rebels one and hope the Stormers beat the Sharks. They could potentially miss out on points differential even with a bonus point win if the Sharks win and the Stormers get a bonus point and the Lions get at least a point.
@Chris-B said in Crusaders v Rebels:
@nzzp said in Crusaders v Rebels:
@Chris-B said in Crusaders v Rebels:
Nice work, Razor - needs to be a bit careful with the bye week, that can work against you, but taking plenty of momentum into it.
Any handle on who might be heading to Christchurch? Or too congested to tell yet?
A quick bit of analysis this morning. The crucial first tiebreaker is the team with the most wins - which hurts those with lots of draws - especially the Highlanders.
https://www.superxv.com/super-rugby/super-rugby-rules/
According to me:
Crusaders, Jaguares, Brumbies and Hurricanes are safely in the eight.The Bulls are effectively safe - to miss out it will take a combination of them getting thumped by the Lions, the Rebels beating the Chiefs and The Sharks beating the Stormers, but allowing the Stormers a losing bonus point.
The Highlanders, Waratahs, Blues, Reds and Sunwolves are all gone.
So five teams fighting for three spots - and four of them are playing one another.
Simple equation for all of the Lions, Stormers, Rebels and Sharks - you win and you're in.
Lions and Stormers will probably make it with a bonus point loss. They can possibly sneak in without, if results go their way.
Chiefs need to win and likely need a bonus point - or at least to deny the Rebels one and hope the Stormers beat the Sharks. They could potentially miss out on points differential even with a bonus point win if the Sharks win and the Stormers get a bonus point and the Lions get at least a point.
So pretty straightforward then
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@Chris-B said in Crusaders v Rebels:
@nzzp said in Crusaders v Rebels:
@Chris-B said in Crusaders v Rebels:
Nice work, Razor - needs to be a bit careful with the bye week, that can work against you, but taking plenty of momentum into it.
Any handle on who might be heading to Christchurch? Or too congested to tell yet?
A quick bit of analysis this morning. The crucial first tiebreaker is the team with the most wins - which hurts those with lots of draws - especially the Highlanders.
https://www.superxv.com/super-rugby/super-rugby-rules/
According to me:
Crusaders, Jaguares, Brumbies and Hurricanes are safely in the eight.The Bulls are effectively safe - to miss out it will take a combination of them getting thumped by the Lions, the Rebels beating the Chiefs and The Sharks beating the Stormers, but allowing the Stormers a losing bonus point.
The Highlanders, Waratahs, Blues, Reds and Sunwolves are all gone.
So five teams fighting for three spots - and four of them are playing one another.
Simple equation for all of the Lions, Stormers, Rebels and Sharks - you win and you're in.
Lions and Stormers will probably make it with a bonus point loss. They can possibly sneak in without, if results go their way.
Chiefs need to win and likely need a bonus point - or at least to deny the Rebels one and hope the Stormers beat the Sharks. They could potentially miss out on points differential even with a bonus point win if the Sharks win and the Stormers get a bonus point and the Lions get at least a point.
So pretty straightforward then
@booboo yeah - there's a few caveats, but I reckon it will probably be pretty straightforward for those five teams:
If you win you're in and there will possibly be one lucky loser, who is most likely the Lions.
It's only the Chiefs that don't fully have their top 8 fate in their own hands.
