Lions vs Canes
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@sparky 2016 - yes. There was no way he was even the best player in the ABs in 2017 let alone the world.
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@Nepia It's hard to take the award seriously when they get it wrong half the time. Sometimes the actual best doesn't even get nominated, like Nonu in 2015.
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@Nepia It's hard to take the award seriously when they get it wrong half the time. Sometimes the actual best doesn't even get nominated, like Nonu in 2015.
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@Dice Or when someone wins on the basis of one lost game over easily the best player of the entire year.
@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:
@Dice Or when someone wins on the basis of one lost game over easily the best player of the entire year.
Which year was that? There was also Kaino getting robbed in 2011.
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@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:
@Dice Or when someone wins on the basis of one lost game over easily the best player of the entire year.
Which year was that? There was also Kaino getting robbed in 2011.
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:
@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:
@Dice Or when someone wins on the basis of one lost game over easily the best player of the entire year.
Which year was that? There was also Kaino getting robbed in 2011.
That's the exact one I'm talking about.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:
@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:
@Dice Or when someone wins on the basis of one lost game over easily the best player of the entire year.
Which year was that? There was also Kaino getting robbed in 2011.
That's the exact one I'm talking about.
@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:
@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:
@Dice Or when someone wins on the basis of one lost game over easily the best player of the entire year.
Which year was that? There was also Kaino getting robbed in 2011.
That's the exact one I'm talking about.
Ahh. Thought you meant the ABs had lost a game.
I recall McCaw losing out to that midget Welsh wing one year.
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Anybody got the penalty count for the game?
SA has got such a massive problem with referee's at the moment. Two clearly dodgy incidents in this game:
- Seconds got an AR gig. Wasn't he dropped as he was showing himself to be biased? You can't just say, oh he's not biased anymore, so he's back in. Should be permanently sacked.
2.The high tackle pre coles try. No way in fuck that wasn't a card. The only discussion is which card should it be.
- Seconds got an AR gig. Wasn't he dropped as he was showing himself to be biased? You can't just say, oh he's not biased anymore, so he's back in. Should be permanently sacked.
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@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:
@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:
@Dice Or when someone wins on the basis of one lost game over easily the best player of the entire year.
Which year was that? There was also Kaino getting robbed in 2011.
That's the exact one I'm talking about.
Ahh. Thought you meant the ABs had lost a game.
I recall McCaw losing out to that midget Welsh wing one year.
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:
@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:
@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:
@Dice Or when someone wins on the basis of one lost game over easily the best player of the entire year.
Which year was that? There was also Kaino getting robbed in 2011.
That's the exact one I'm talking about.
Ahh. Thought you meant the ABs had lost a game.
I recall McCaw losing out to that midget Welsh wing one year.
At least McCaw got his own back in years to come, when he won it over Fourie Du Preez
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@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:
@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:
@Dice Or when someone wins on the basis of one lost game over easily the best player of the entire year.
Which year was that? There was also Kaino getting robbed in 2011.
That's the exact one I'm talking about.
Ahh. Thought you meant the ABs had lost a game.
I recall McCaw losing out to that midget Welsh wing one year.
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:
@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:
@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:
@Dice Or when someone wins on the basis of one lost game over easily the best player of the entire year.
Which year was that? There was also Kaino getting robbed in 2011.
That's the exact one I'm talking about.
Ahh. Thought you meant the ABs had lost a game.
I recall McCaw losing out to that midget Welsh wing one year.
That midget was a pretty decent player though, I don't think I've seen a player who could change direction as quick as he could.....even more so than Cullen.
Crap defender and not much top end speed compared to others though.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:
@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:
@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:
@Dice Or when someone wins on the basis of one lost game over easily the best player of the entire year.
Which year was that? There was also Kaino getting robbed in 2011.
That's the exact one I'm talking about.
Ahh. Thought you meant the ABs had lost a game.
I recall McCaw losing out to that midget Welsh wing one year.
That midget was a pretty decent player though, I don't think I've seen a player who could change direction as quick as he could.....even more so than Cullen.
Crap defender and not much top end speed compared to others though.
@MN5 said in Lions vs Canes:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:
@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:
@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:
@Dice Or when someone wins on the basis of one lost game over easily the best player of the entire year.
Which year was that? There was also Kaino getting robbed in 2011.
That's the exact one I'm talking about.
Ahh. Thought you meant the ABs had lost a game.
I recall McCaw losing out to that midget Welsh wing one year.
That midget was a pretty decent player though, I don't think I've seen a player who could change direction as quick as he could.....even more so than Cullen.
Crap defender and not much top end speed compared to others though.
He was great but not the world MVP. Maybe Carter and McCaw split the vote.
Interestingly Parisse was only nominated twice, although it was probably two times too many.
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@MN5 said in Lions vs Canes:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:
@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:
@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:
@Dice Or when someone wins on the basis of one lost game over easily the best player of the entire year.
Which year was that? There was also Kaino getting robbed in 2011.
That's the exact one I'm talking about.
Ahh. Thought you meant the ABs had lost a game.
I recall McCaw losing out to that midget Welsh wing one year.
That midget was a pretty decent player though, I don't think I've seen a player who could change direction as quick as he could.....even more so than Cullen.
Crap defender and not much top end speed compared to others though.
He was great but not the world MVP. Maybe Carter and McCaw split the vote.
Interestingly Parisse was only nominated twice, although it was probably two times too many.
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:
@MN5 said in Lions vs Canes:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:
@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:
@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:
@Dice Or when someone wins on the basis of one lost game over easily the best player of the entire year.
Which year was that? There was also Kaino getting robbed in 2011.
That's the exact one I'm talking about.
Ahh. Thought you meant the ABs had lost a game.
I recall McCaw losing out to that midget Welsh wing one year.
That midget was a pretty decent player though, I don't think I've seen a player who could change direction as quick as he could.....even more so than Cullen.
Crap defender and not much top end speed compared to others though.
He was great but not the world MVP. Maybe Carter and McCaw split the vote.
Interestingly Parisse was only nominated twice, although it was probably two times too many.
I probably exaggerated slightly but I'm sure it was more than that.
but yeah Shane Williams always struggled tackling anyone bigger than him.....which was anyone.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:
@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Lions vs Canes:
@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:
@Dice Or when someone wins on the basis of one lost game over easily the best player of the entire year.
Which year was that? There was also Kaino getting robbed in 2011.
That's the exact one I'm talking about.
Ahh. Thought you meant the ABs had lost a game.
I recall McCaw losing out to that midget Welsh wing one year.
That midget was a pretty decent player though, I don't think I've seen a player who could change direction as quick as he could.....even more so than Cullen.
Crap defender and not much top end speed compared to others though.
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Anybody got the penalty count for the game?
SA has got such a massive problem with referee's at the moment. Two clearly dodgy incidents in this game:
- Seconds got an AR gig. Wasn't he dropped as he was showing himself to be biased? You can't just say, oh he's not biased anymore, so he's back in. Should be permanently sacked.
2.The high tackle pre coles try. No way in fuck that wasn't a card. The only discussion is which card should it be.
@MajorRage said in Lions vs Canes:
Anybody got the penalty count for the game?
SA has got such a massive problem with referee's at the moment. Two clearly dodgy incidents in this game:
- Seconds got an AR gig. Wasn't he dropped as he was showing himself to be biased? You can't just say, oh he's not biased anymore, so he's back in. Should be permanently sacked.
2.The high tackle pre coles try. No way in fuck that wasn't a card. The only discussion is which card should it be.
Kiwis whining about Refs in games officiated in RSA :sleeping_face: :sleeping_face:
Tackle started shoulder high & slipped up = seat belt tackle
TJ dramatic reaction was pathetic
Penalty only Not enough force to warrant a yellow card & contact was NOT initiated at head/neck area
Fifita OTOH was a textbook example of why laws were charged re. high tackles + level of force applied to these vulnerable areas
I like Plumtree but his comment re Fifita were a fucking embarrassment as well as woefully ignorant
- Seconds got an AR gig. Wasn't he dropped as he was showing himself to be biased? You can't just say, oh he's not biased anymore, so he's back in. Should be permanently sacked.
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@MajorRage said in Lions vs Canes:
Anybody got the penalty count for the game?
SA has got such a massive problem with referee's at the moment. Two clearly dodgy incidents in this game:
- Seconds got an AR gig. Wasn't he dropped as he was showing himself to be biased? You can't just say, oh he's not biased anymore, so he's back in. Should be permanently sacked.
2.The high tackle pre coles try. No way in fuck that wasn't a card. The only discussion is which card should it be.
Kiwis whining about Refs in games officiated in RSA :sleeping_face: :sleeping_face:
Tackle started shoulder high & slipped up = seat belt tackle
TJ dramatic reaction was pathetic
Penalty only Not enough force to warrant a yellow card & contact was NOT initiated at head/neck area
Fifita OTOH was a textbook example of why laws were charged re. high tackles + level of force applied to these vulnerable areas
I like Plumtree but his comment re Fifita were a fucking embarrassment as well as woefully ignorant
@Jaguares4real said in Lions vs Canes:
@MajorRage said in Lions vs Canes:
Anybody got the penalty count for the game?
SA has got such a massive problem with referee's at the moment. Two clearly dodgy incidents in this game:
- Seconds got an AR gig. Wasn't he dropped as he was showing himself to be biased? You can't just say, oh he's not biased anymore, so he's back in. Should be permanently sacked.
2.The high tackle pre coles try. No way in fuck that wasn't a card. The only discussion is which card should it be.
Kiwis whining about Refs in games officiated in RSA :sleeping_face: :sleeping_face:
Tackle started shoulder high & slipped up = seat belt tackle
TJ dramatic reaction was pathetic
Penalty only Not enough force to warrant a yellow card & contact was NOT initiated at head/neck area
Fifita OTOH was a textbook example of why laws were charged re. high tackles + level of force applied to these vulnerable areas
I like Plumtree but his comment re Fifita were a fucking embarrassment as well as woefully ignorant
you continue to give Seconds roles, you continue to face deserves criticism.
Your analysis of the tackle is just wrong. We both know opposite teams wound have been straight Red in SA. Calling others ignorant is hypocrisy of the highest.
I look forward to the next coat hanger tackle on an SA player to see what a non dramatic reaction should look like.
No problems with Fifira sanction here, so unclear of relevance.
- Seconds got an AR gig. Wasn't he dropped as he was showing himself to be biased? You can't just say, oh he's not biased anymore, so he's back in. Should be permanently sacked.
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@MN5 said in Lions vs Canes:
could change direction as quick as he could.....even more so than Cullen.
Now, I'm not saying you're talking out of your arse and I don't believe you, but, I would like to see some footage for comparison.
@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:
@MN5 said in Lions vs Canes:
could change direction as quick as he could.....even more so than Cullen.
Now, I'm not saying you're talking out of your arse and I don't believe you, but, I would like to see some footage for comparison.
might have to get some on YouTube. Cullen always went forward though. Williams often went all over the place.
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if anyone was better than Cully at that step/swerve without losing much pace it would have been Jason Robinson.
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Anybody got the penalty count for the game?
SA has got such a massive problem with referee's at the moment. Two clearly dodgy incidents in this game:
- Seconds got an AR gig. Wasn't he dropped as he was showing himself to be biased? You can't just say, oh he's not biased anymore, so he's back in. Should be permanently sacked.
2.The high tackle pre coles try. No way in fuck that wasn't a card. The only discussion is which card should it be.
@MajorRage agree 100%. Initial contact was on the chin then slipped down to upper chest as TJ flipped. Not the biggest impact and the flipping movement made it look pretty bad at full speed. Definitely a yellow imo based on other rulings this year... and that irksome thing called the rule book!!
- Seconds got an AR gig. Wasn't he dropped as he was showing himself to be biased? You can't just say, oh he's not biased anymore, so he's back in. Should be permanently sacked.
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@Jaguares4real said in Lions vs Canes:
@MajorRage said in Lions vs Canes:
Anybody got the penalty count for the game?
SA has got such a massive problem with referee's at the moment. Two clearly dodgy incidents in this game:
- Seconds got an AR gig. Wasn't he dropped as he was showing himself to be biased? You can't just say, oh he's not biased anymore, so he's back in. Should be permanently sacked.
2.The high tackle pre coles try. No way in fuck that wasn't a card. The only discussion is which card should it be.
Kiwis whining about Refs in games officiated in RSA :sleeping_face: :sleeping_face:
Tackle started shoulder high & slipped up = seat belt tackle
TJ dramatic reaction was pathetic
Penalty only Not enough force to warrant a yellow card & contact was NOT initiated at head/neck area
Fifita OTOH was a textbook example of why laws were charged re. high tackles + level of force applied to these vulnerable areas
I like Plumtree but his comment re Fifita were a fucking embarrassment as well as woefully ignorant
you continue to give Seconds roles, you continue to face deserves criticism.
Your analysis of the tackle is just wrong. We both know opposite teams wound have been straight Red in SA. Calling others ignorant is hypocrisy of the highest.
I look forward to the next coat hanger tackle on an SA player to see what a non dramatic reaction should look like.
No problems with Fifira sanction here, so unclear of relevance.
@MajorRage said in Lions vs Canes:
ng embarrassment as well as woefully ignoran
We'll have agree to disagree re. TJ's tackle
He should consider a career in Entertainment once he retire from rugby
Seconds is a distraction, not Lead referee nor a TMO
The SA conspiracy is just silly
My point re. Fifita was it was a clear red card yet was argued by Plum
- Seconds got an AR gig. Wasn't he dropped as he was showing himself to be biased? You can't just say, oh he's not biased anymore, so he's back in. Should be permanently sacked.
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@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:
@MN5 said in Lions vs Canes:
could change direction as quick as he could.....even more so than Cullen.
Now, I'm not saying you're talking out of your arse and I don't believe you, but, I would like to see some footage for comparison.
might have to get some on YouTube. Cullen always went forward though. Williams often went all over the place.
@MN5 said in Lions vs Canes:
@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:
@MN5 said in Lions vs Canes:
could change direction as quick as he could.....even more so than Cullen.
Now, I'm not saying you're talking out of your arse and I don't believe you, but, I would like to see some footage for comparison.
might have to get some on YouTube. Cullen always went forward though. Williams often went all over the place.
Clearly you've blocked out his try vs the Scots in 1996!
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@MN5 said in Lions vs Canes:
@Nepia said in Lions vs Canes:
@MN5 said in Lions vs Canes:
could change direction as quick as he could.....even more so than Cullen.
Now, I'm not saying you're talking out of your arse and I don't believe you, but, I would like to see some footage for comparison.
might have to get some on YouTube. Cullen always went forward though. Williams often went all over the place.
Clearly you've blocked out his try vs the Scots in 1996!
