Fatbusting: Kirwan's log
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@Paekakboyz the first three months, the results were much easier for sure. I'm not measuring fat %, not even body measurements either. I do notice in the clothes, have to wear a belt, t-shirts i couldn't get into a super loose (some I can't wear anymore because they look like tents).
And I can see progress in photos. Hard to see in the mirror, as it's a gradual change, but a side by side comparison at 95.6 to 80.5 is pretty stark. My head looked like a basketball.
So eyeballing it, I can see obvious weight off my face and stomach. But also in places I wouldn't expect, like the back/chest/arms as well.
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@Kirwan it's fucking cool aye. I actually like the way it changes gradual so you miss it a bit unless you see an old pic, or like you say you try on an old and 'snug' piece of clothing only to find you are swimming in it.
They say weight comes off your face quite early on, probably off the belly and muffin top last... dammit! Was just talking to a female friend at work about fat loss, and how guys can hold the fat around their core/torso but a lot of it sits in the ass/thighs for wahines. So while it's coming off everywhere you need to get to a lower % to see clear definition in some areas.
95/96 to 80.5kg (love your inclusion of the .5) is massive!! lol good to hear you are now rocking a softball head instead of a basketball
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@Hooroo said in Fatbusting: Kirwan's log:
@Kirwan what is your fasting times? I'm currently doing 8pm to midday following. I am seeing results after a couple of weeks but is the idea to increase the length of the fast?
No, just do what works for you. I started with 16/8 and stayed there for ages, then moved to 18 and now generally do 20 with a 24 once a week.
Fasting has lots of benefits, but for weight loss I find it makes it easier to avoid snacking without thinking about, so easier to get to a calorie deficit. Helps with cravings as well, so good food tasts better (my experience anyway).
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@Kirwan wait, what? 20 hours no food, 4 with food? fuck absolutely all of that. I have no idea how you guys do that. I had 3 eggs for breakfast. I've had 3 coffees. I've had more than a litre of water. It's 11.30, and i am fucking hungry and hanging out for lunch.
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@mariner4life says the guy that swam, rode and ran for how many hours!!?
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@mariner4life said in Fatbusting: Kirwan's log:
@Kirwan wait, what? 20 hours no food, 4 with food? fuck absolutely all of that. I have no idea how you guys do that. I had 3 eggs for breakfast. I've had 3 coffees. I've had more than a litre of water. It's 11.30, and i am fucking hungry and hanging out for lunch.
Some fasting devotees go multiple days, I'm on the light end of the scale
I'm also have a very light activity level, under 80kg I'll be starting exercise again and then I'll go back to 18 hours and up my calories to 1500-1700 per day.
And when I started, I was starving at 16 hours so you get used to it.
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@Kirwan and, just asking for a friend, how does alcohol fit in to this?
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@mariner4life said in Fatbusting: Kirwan's log:
@Kirwan and, just asking for a friend, how does alcohol fit in to this?
Wrong person to ask, as I can't drink alcohol anymore.
But from memory, if you track the calories and keep at deficit you could probably limit the damage. But I remember reading that when you consume alcohol it affects your ability to lose weight for 72 hours.
Not sure if the last one has been debunked or not.
I think it would be hard to lose weight drinking beer. Same for stuff with sugar in it.
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@Kirwan said in Fatbusting: Kirwan's log:
Wrong person to ask, as I can't drink alcohol anymore.
god, that's awful!
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@mariner4life said in Fatbusting: Kirwan's log:
@Kirwan said in Fatbusting: Kirwan's log:
Wrong person to ask, as I can't drink alcohol anymore.
god, that's awful!
Especially as a long suffering Blues fan, yes.
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@mariner4life said in Fatbusting: Kirwan's log:
@Kirwan and, just asking for a friend, how does alcohol fit in to this?
Easily
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This may have been asked so I apologize if repeat question ...
If you exercise, when in the fast do you do it? Ie if you are doing 16-8, eating from 11am to 7, And had to an hour run ... if you do it at 9am, do you find it ok? Or if at 5pm, is that better?
I find this absolutely fascinating as fasting goes against pretty much everything I’ve ever learned about weight management ... !
Oh, and a good fasting app?
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@Kirwan said in Fatbusting: Kirwan's log:
But I remember reading that when you consume alcohol it affects your ability to lose weight for 72 hours.Not sure if the last one has been debunked or not.
I think it would be hard to lose weight drinking beer. Same for stuff with sugar in it.
Bartman always used to go on about that point. Also not sure whether debunked or not.
Regardless of the alcohol factor, the extra calories wont help. I just drink low carb beer probably 90% of the time and still find it very easy to manipulate weight but varying calorie intake and exercise.
Still drank plenty when was fasting, obviously during the non-fasting periods tho.
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@MajorRage I'm not doing any exercise other than hiking. This isn't due to the fasting, more to the health issues I've had.
That will change in about a week, all going to plan then I'll see how I handle higher intensity workouts. If I get no headaches or fatigue symptoms I'll continue a slow ramp up of activity.
People exercise while fasted, it's supposed to really accelerate weight loss (especially HIIT). The hikes I've been on have been two/three hours all with nothing but coffee and water. You get hyper energetic, but I do find that I got really hungry towards the end of the fasting window. Even more so on a the test 5km runs I've done.
Supposedly, a Keto diet is supposed to suppress hungry and having sodium helps too, but I've not gone down that rabbit hole. I just eat lots of salads with chicken, healthier snacks and no sugar.
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@JK I see that Steinlager Pure is only 135 cals, so you could have a couple of those and stay under 1500 ok if you were just having the one meal a day approach.
No chance if you were doing the 5/2 thing with the new limit of 800 cals. I want my calories to be really filling when it's that low. One of the meals I have is a mountain of food and it's under 600.
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June was the first month since January where I didn’t lose weight, averaged at just under 81kg. Three days around my birthday I went to town and put on 1.5kg of celebration calories
I ended the month weighing exactly what I weighed on the first day. Weirdly, I had some composition changes as I’m now down to my 33 jeans and they are loose, so I think I could get into 32. That’s down from 36.
So once I had some distance from that splurge it was back to the new slower rate of loss. Have been alternating higher calories with lower calories and mixing up the fasting window length and start times.
That’s got me to 79.9kg today, and under my goal weight. Six months basically to get back under 80.
Thinking about the new target, might do a mini sprint to 78, which is what I weighed doing CrossFit.
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My plan has been to hit 80kg then start exercising again, so started that last night with what I thought was going to be an easy introduction.
Plan was to three rounds of 400m-ish run, 10 pushups, 25 bodyweight squats, 20 10kg kettlebell swings. I went at pretty slow pace, but the final round didn't go well and when I finished that I was pretty dizzy.
I'm thinking a combination of lack of endurance and pinching my neck.
I recovered pretty well, and other than a sore neck and beginnings of headache that went away after some ibuprofen, I'm ok today.
So I've learned that I'm completely deconditioned, weak as a kitten, and need to start even slower than I expected.
Plan B is to set daily targets of squats and pushups, and spread those out during the day. Russian swings for the kettlebells until I get stronger. Will see how that goes.
