Hurricanes v Blues
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@Canes4life Goosen and Aso have had plenty of opportunities before they started playing well. Particularly Goosen has taken years to become a good player, but at least he got plenty of opportunities. Lowe gets a short run after 4 months on the sideline; only his 2nd cap for the Canes in 3 years. Demanding he's better than guys who've had plenty of game time is hugely unfair and ridiculous. What he needs is stringing games together. Hopefully next year.
@Stargazer With all the games I've seen Lowe play I just don't get what all the fuss is about. Hopefully he gets more game time, because I would like to see if he can deliver at this level. Kudos to the kid if he does.
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@Canes4life He seemed to play midfield mostly whilst at HBHS and I was mightly impressed with him when I took in the HBHS v Well Coll game at Well Coll a couple of years back. He oozed class playing second five that day.
@Higgins @Stargazer Oh right, so what would his best position be then?
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On the upside lads my TAB account is up by $160..5-24 at $8 was too good an opportunity to pass up..you just knew the Blues would find a way..!.
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On the upside lads my TAB account is up by $160..5-24 at $8 was too good an opportunity to pass up..you just knew the Blues would find a way..!.
@Steven-Harris I actually joked with a mate at halftime that the Blues would find a way, and sure enough.
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@Stargazer With all the games I've seen Lowe play I just don't get what all the fuss is about. Hopefully he gets more game time, because I would like to see if he can deliver at this level. Kudos to the kid if he does.
@Canes4life Lowe has been excellent during Canes preseason, M10 Cup and for the MABs. He scored plenty of tries. But also noteworthy is that he is best at centre, and they play him on the wing, which is unfortunate.
By the way, all the fuss I've made is about him not getting opportunities. I've never said he's a superstar (at SR level), because basically, we don't know yet how good he can be.
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@Canes4life Lowe has been excellent during Canes preseason, M10 Cup and for the MABs. He scored plenty of tries. But also noteworthy is that he is best at centre, and they play him on the wing, which is unfortunate.
By the way, all the fuss I've made is about him not getting opportunities. I've never said he's a superstar (at SR level), because basically, we don't know yet how good he can be.
@Stargazer I'm sure there will be a fair amount of competition next year for those wing positions - whether it's Goosen, Aso, Toala, Lowe, Rayasi or Lam - I guess whoever gets the chance will need to be playing bloody well. Good to have that competition and depth.
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@Stargazer said in Hurricanes v Blues:
I haven't seen anything from SBW in this game that justifies his inclusion in the ABs squad and leaving out (most likely) Laumape.
We saw the same thing with Nonu for years though - would just phone it in for Super, and then smash it at International level.
The ABs back themselves to et the best out of people, and you can see what SBW brings. Big, fast, offloading machine, with the track record not to choke under severe pressure. Risk is age, condition and actually getting some damn game time!
@nzzp said in Hurricanes v Blues:
you can see what SBW brings. Big, fast, offloading machine, with the track record not to choke under severe pressure.
He goes AWOL far too often at Test level IMHO. He may be a great guy, but for every miracle pass there's a knock-on, offside, fumble or brain-fart. He almost cost us a game against France by idiotically knocking the ball over the dead-ball line.
You didn't see that with Nonu.
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@nzzp said in Hurricanes v Blues:
you can see what SBW brings. Big, fast, offloading machine, with the track record not to choke under severe pressure.
He goes AWOL far too often at Test level IMHO. He may be a great guy, but for every miracle pass there's a knock-on, offside, fumble or brain-fart. He almost cost us a game against France by idiotically knocking the ball over the dead-ball line.
You didn't see that with Nonu.
@Victor-Meldrew and he cost us the Lions tour.
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@Canes4life said in Hurricanes v Blues:
This was really satisfying win as a Canes fan. Bunch of rookies really stepped up and got the result. Really impressed with Peter Umaga-Jensen at centre, I would keep him there through the playoffs.
Really impressed at Fletcher Smiths cameo off the bench at Fullback.
And wow, the Canes had more wins than the Crusaders this year.
Also more losses.
@Stargazer said in Hurricanes v Blues:
@Canes4life said in Hurricanes v Blues:
This was really satisfying win as a Canes fan. Bunch of rookies really stepped up and got the result. Really impressed with Peter Umaga-Jensen at centre, I would keep him there through the playoffs.
Really impressed at Fletcher Smiths cameo off the bench at Fullback.
And wow, the Canes had more wins than the Crusaders this year.
Also more losses.
Canes had a very good season YET they've been badly exposed in their 3 defeats to Crusaders and Jaguares
Let see if Canes can shed their rap this season of being flat track bullies
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@Stargazer did you have to torture us with the highlights so soon..!,lol
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@Stargazer did you have to torture us with the highlights so soon..!,lol
@Steven-Harris Haha, sorry, but you really don't have to watch them if you don't want to.
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@Steven-Harris Haha, sorry, but you really don't have to watch them if you don't want to.
@Stargazer Nah, I am literally done for the super season ,not going to go and nail my genitalia to a piece of wood or bash my head repeatedly against the toilet bowl..but man alive it’s hard hard work following this franchise..
Just trying to figure out who my allegiances are with regarding the remaining NZ teams ..even my 2nd team the moon dogs have had it rough this year..but they have got some genuine reasons..compromised by having all their Japanese players pulled out along with several key injuries and I guess being told your going to be chopped did not help.. -
@Stargazer said in Hurricanes v Blues:
@Canes4life said in Hurricanes v Blues:
This was really satisfying win as a Canes fan. Bunch of rookies really stepped up and got the result. Really impressed with Peter Umaga-Jensen at centre, I would keep him there through the playoffs.
Really impressed at Fletcher Smiths cameo off the bench at Fullback.
And wow, the Canes had more wins than the Crusaders this year.
Also more losses.
Canes had a very good season YET they've been badly exposed in their 3 defeats to Crusaders and Jaguares
Let see if Canes can shed their rap this season of being flat track bullies
@Jaguares4real the Canes are a different beast with Coles in that front row. He adds the mongrel needed to take on big packs like the Crusaders and Jaguares. If the Canes can field Coles, Ardie, Perenara, B Barrett, J Barrett through the playoffs, they are a real chance for the title.
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@Stargazer Nah, I am literally done for the super season ,not going to go and nail my genitalia to a piece of wood or bash my head repeatedly against the toilet bowl..but man alive it’s hard hard work following this franchise..
Just trying to figure out who my allegiances are with regarding the remaining NZ teams ..even my 2nd team the moon dogs have had it rough this year..but they have got some genuine reasons..compromised by having all their Japanese players pulled out along with several key injuries and I guess being told your going to be chopped did not help..@Steven-Harris jump on the Canes bandwagon, we have the Blues King in our coaching staff.
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I wasn’t fussed if we’d lost to the Blues I’m was just happy so other squad members got game time...was really weird seeing number 23 is he new
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@Stargazer With all the games I've seen Lowe play I just don't get what all the fuss is about. Hopefully he gets more game time, because I would like to see if he can deliver at this level. Kudos to the kid if he does.
@Canes4life said in Hurricanes v Blues:
@Stargazer With all the games I've seen Lowe play I just don't get what all the fuss is about. Hopefully he gets more game time, because I would like to see if he can deliver at this level. Kudos to the kid if he does.
All the games you've seen him play? How many is that really?
I've seen Goosen play way more games than Lowe (at all levels as Lowe's been injured pretty frequently) and it took him until mid way this year to reach the hype assigned to him (mostly from @Winger and Grint Nesbitt).
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@Stargazer Nah, I am literally done for the super season ,not going to go and nail my genitalia to a piece of wood or bash my head repeatedly against the toilet bowl..but man alive it’s hard hard work following this franchise..
Just trying to figure out who my allegiances are with regarding the remaining NZ teams ..even my 2nd team the moon dogs have had it rough this year..but they have got some genuine reasons..compromised by having all their Japanese players pulled out along with several key injuries and I guess being told your going to be chopped did not help..@Steven-Harris dont worry bro you have the roller coaster ride of watching Northland coming up...
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I'm just dropping into this thread to express my deep frustration and disappointment with the Blues. The back end of the season (last two weeks in particular) have been soul destroying. I feel for Leon and his crew, it's a hard job, and if (when?) we see some success, it's going to be so sweet as a result. Cheap shots aside, any bastard who keeps supporting this lot deserves credit (and possibly their head read).
Stay the course, believe in John, Don and Leon. Good things take time, and this sure as hell is taking its time. Having seen the whole season, there is a foundation there to build on, but mental strength is probably the hardest thing to fix and the thing that is most needed.
If you're playing the Blues right now, you'd back yourself to come back from anywhere. Any farking where, like 24 points in a half of rugby. Fark me, it's tough at the moment.
The thing that really annoys me is we do some good things, followed by unforced errors, mental weakness and tactical ineptitude. The number of unforced errors this year has me tearing my hear out... but that's easier to fix than the fading out of games.
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I'm just dropping into this thread to express my deep frustration and disappointment with the Blues. The back end of the season (last two weeks in particular) have been soul destroying. I feel for Leon and his crew, it's a hard job, and if (when?) we see some success, it's going to be so sweet as a result. Cheap shots aside, any bastard who keeps supporting this lot deserves credit (and possibly their head read).
Stay the course, believe in John, Don and Leon. Good things take time, and this sure as hell is taking its time. Having seen the whole season, there is a foundation there to build on, but mental strength is probably the hardest thing to fix and the thing that is most needed.
If you're playing the Blues right now, you'd back yourself to come back from anywhere. Any farking where, like 24 points in a half of rugby. Fark me, it's tough at the moment.
The thing that really annoys me is we do some good things, followed by unforced errors, mental weakness and tactical ineptitude. The number of unforced errors this year has me tearing my hear out... but that's easier to fix than the fading out of games.
@nzzp The last 3 weeks have been soul destroying tbh, and the worst thing is, is that we're waiting for it to happen in games. I love the side and would rather die before supporting anyone else, but man it's a shit feeling seeing the same thing happen over and over and over again for the past 8 seasons and I don't see it getting better next season either with the massive holes we have in our side and no-one really willing to come and play for us.
