Pushing Tin - Paekakboyz Training Log
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@Paekakboyz said in Pushing Tin - Paekakboyz Training Log:
@Rancid-Schnitzel my mate has more exp than I. From my reading its about getting that 5gm daily dose in for the cycle, drinking water and obviously training.
There is some talk about a pre loading approach with a lower daily amount. My mate doesn't rate that though. Reckons you waste some of the creatine as your body can only process so much. But I read the preload is a way to avoid as much weight increase.
So that's where we differ. He wants max bulk while I want lean muscle and minimise body fat.
Will let you know what we end up doing
Cool. Did it ages ago but just took the recommended amount if I could remember in the morning. Don't think it made much difference but obviously I wasn't paying much attention. I once got on the piss with a scientist and he reckoned creatine was the way to go.
My previous swimming coach also recommended those fat burner drinks. Haven't got around to getting any, but anything that burns fat and is recommended by a national level athlete should be worth a gander.
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Pretty sure we gave it a hoon in uni, but that was years ago now. The lifting guys I follow swear by it as the single best (legal and safe) option to build bulk and get stronger. I think you do need to be pretty disciplined with it for best effect.
Fat burners? would be interested in what your coach recommended. In my experience they all have certain ingredients that I'm not sure pro athletes should be taking ha ha. Haven't tried any of the current crop though, I'm sure there are a bunch of options that are clean and within doping rules.
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I think Creatines effects definitely depend on each individuals genetic makeup.
I remember a good mate of mine who I worked with had some at on his desk, he said not to touch it knowing full well that I would.....so he said at least try not to have too much.
Me being me I wanted to get ( more ) jacked quicker so I think I had about three or four times the recommended amount. ( a bit more bulk and definition in time for the weekend woulda been great ) but I'm pretty sure all it did was send me off to shit through the eye of a needle every 20 minutes or so much to his amusement.
I'm not sure it actually did too much when I splashed out and bought some. I find I get more gains sticking to the fasting and getting lots of protein in.
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@MN5
he probably swapped it out for a laxative knowing you'd hungus it!!We'll sort proper dosage and a plan (of sorts!) to follow. Sounds like water intake and training enough are the big factors. Did read that you can expect strength and endurance gains in 7-10 days. Oh yeah!
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@Paekakboyz said in Pushing Tin - Paekakboyz Training Log:
@MN5
he probably swapped it out for a laxative knowing you'd hungus it!!We'll sort proper dosage and a plan (of sorts!) to follow. Sounds like water intake and training enough are the big factors. Did read that you can expect strength and endurance gains in 7-10 days. Oh yeah!
Now I think about it this is not beyond the realms of possibility.
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@MN5 especially if he was a good mate! Ha ha
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@Paekakboyz said in Pushing Tin - Paekakboyz Training Log:
@MN5 especially if he was a good mate! Ha ha
I'm on the fern. None of us have anything other than casual acquaintances......
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https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/186/hydroxycut/18
Same bullshit discussion ten years ago.....wow. I really need to get a life.
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@MN5 far out. That's some time capsule shit bro!!
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@Paekakboyz said in Pushing Tin - Paekakboyz Training Log:
@MN5 far out. That's some time capsule shit bro!!
I can only assume you were too busy partying to join the discussion haha
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when i had to stack on weight for rugby i used to do blocks of it in the off season. It's a fair fucking way back now (ie probably older than that thread that was just dug up) but i seem to remember having to be pretty strict about booze and caffeine?
Worked though. I think.
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@mariner4life said in Pushing Tin - Paekakboyz Training Log:
when i had to stack on weight for rugby i used to do blocks of it in the off season. It's a fair fucking way back now (ie probably older than that thread that was just dug up) but i seem to remember having to be pretty strict about booze and caffeine?
Worked though. I think.
That was me fucked then.
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@MN5 said in Pushing Tin - Paekakboyz Training Log:
@mariner4life said in Pushing Tin - Paekakboyz Training Log:
when i had to stack on weight for rugby i used to do blocks of it in the off season. It's a fair fucking way back now (ie probably older than that thread that was just dug up) but i seem to remember having to be pretty strict about booze and caffeine?
Worked though. I think.
That was me fucked then.
i didn't drink anywhere near as much coffee then. And was motivated enough to get off the beer. but yeah, it sucked.
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@mariner4life said in Pushing Tin - Paekakboyz Training Log:
@MN5 said in Pushing Tin - Paekakboyz Training Log:
@mariner4life said in Pushing Tin - Paekakboyz Training Log:
when i had to stack on weight for rugby i used to do blocks of it in the off season. It's a fair fucking way back now (ie probably older than that thread that was just dug up) but i seem to remember having to be pretty strict about booze and caffeine?
Worked though. I think.
That was me fucked then.
i didn't drink anywhere near as much coffee then. And was motivated enough to get off the beer. but yeah, it sucked.
I do think like anything much of it comes down to the individual and his/her metabolism, genetic makeup etc.
Much like the bullshit pre workout supplements I used to get off my mate when he ran the store in town. Some of them literally made my skin prickle but one in particular made me feel like I could have shoulder pressed a car.
I think it got made illegal. Stink.
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@MN5 that sort of stuff is still around. Beta something is the stuff that gives you the tingles, but it does zero for performance aside from knowing it's taken effect. The other ingredients give you the grunt.
We find C4 works well, but JackeD was the old school go-to. You could easily go clubbing on that shit. Pure rocket fuel ha ha. Pretty sure it had that old night and day cold medicine stuff in it.
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@Paekakboyz said in Pushing Tin - Paekakboyz Training Log:
@MN5 that sort of stuff is still around. Beta something is the stuff that gives you the tingles, but it does zero for performance aside from knowing it's taken effect. The other ingredients give you the grunt.
We find C4 works well, but JackeD was the old school go-to. You could easily go clubbing on that shit. Pure rocket fuel ha ha. Pretty sure it had that old night and day cold medicine stuff in it.
I think it was called the Curse from memory ?
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Damn, the fitness threads go way back! Some long forgotten names there. Plenty of eager starts.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel ha ha and plenty of dreams!!
Legs last night. Hip niggle has settled but still searching for an actual cure... if that is possible. We ended up having a great yarn and got some pointers from one of our trainer bros. He's had a lot of hip issues so is very clued up.
He made a great point about mobility versus flexibility. The former is ROM where you are actively engaging muscles etc, while the latter is being able to passively get into a position. His example was the renowned 'Asian squat' which is generally passive when people are sitting on their heels, versus your ideal ass-to-grass squat where you want the same position but have everything firing.
So he took us through a bunch of movements where you'd get into position then test your level of engagement. Could you keep that position once you had to actively engage etc. Bloody hard stuff and wow it shows things up very swiftly!
So a bunch of stuff for us to try out on hip mobility etc. Fun times!
Actual workout was a solid warm up, light back squats - working up to 4 sets of 6 at 100kg. Nice and steady pace. Then yoke front squats for 3 sets. Then some KB goblet squats. Then we did a cable sprint type thing. Cable attached at your ankle then kicking out like the start of a sprint. That was good for testing stability and no after effects on the hip today... at least so far!!
