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  • phoenetiaP Offline
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    phoenetia
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    #92

    what are you trying to do, lose weight or put in an amazing time on this run ?<br />
    you will lose weight if you run but your diet should be geared towards allowing you to get optimal performance, not losing weight (if your finishing time is your objective).<br />
    <br />
    you should experiment with some different foods and the timings in which you eat them... for me, i find a granola bar gives me tonnes of energy - if i eat one of these 90 minutes before i run, i feel i can run for as long as i like. if i only have fruit, i fizz out after 40 mins or so...<br />
    <br />
    also post nutrition is v important, i used to have some fruit for quick carbs but have recently started making shakes and have found my recovery speed has improved dramatically... i find i no longer ache after long runs, i no longer get that exhausted feeling the next day... it could also be something to do with my improvement in fitness but it literally starting happening the day i started using these shakes.<br />
    <br />
    re shin splints, i've found this website good for other runners advice on all things to do with running <br />
    [url="http://www.runnersworld.co.uk/news/article.asp?UAN=933&v=1&sp="]http://www.runnersworld.co.uk/news/arti ... 33&v=1&sp=[/url]

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    barnya - yo8u had a shit weekend again didn't you.<br />
    <br />
    Sort it out man, get running!!

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    Bullethole
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    [quote name='BartMan']<br />
    barnya - yo8u had a shit weekend again didn't you.<br />
    <br />
    Sort it out man, get running!!<br />
    [/quote]<br />
    <br />
    Well my eating was fine but I did drink far far too much both nights...<br />
    <br />
    Got a snog though  😁<br />
    <br />
    Also played a full game of poofball on Sat morning and found my fitness had improved massively.  Despite still being drunk from the night before, I was all over the park and feeling fine, got in a couple of brutal slide tackles and set up the winner with a deft 1-2 to put a teammate through on goal.<br />
    <br />
    Went for a 7km run yesterday and felt really good, it was warm, sun was out, smell of freshly mown grass in the air, and shin splints but a painful memory.  Until I'd stopped running that is, so the lesson there...don't stop running!<br />
    <br />
    Tried my belt on today and to my surprise can tighten it to the 3rd notch....first time in ages!<br />
    <br />
    Cheers for those tips Phonetia, in answer to you're question I'm going to try and put in an amazing time, but I feel that is largely contingent upon losing weight.

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    Miller V Jackson
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    #95

    Ahh... the Bartman belt test. Now you're talking Barnya.

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    Parcy v2.0
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    #96

    You could use the PdP test as well. It's very simple.<br />
    <br />
    Stand up. Look down. If you can see your dick you've lost weight.

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    BartMan
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    #97

    and if there is one eye looking back up at you, you have lost weight, and are excited about it...

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    Bullethole
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    Even in the high-shrinkage conditions of a student bedroom I am in no danger of failing the PDP test  <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' /><br />
    <br />
    Big walking day today - walked to uni (10mins), to Octagon (15mins), back to uni (15mins), back home (10mins, up big hill), back to Octagon (20mins), back home (20mins, up big hill).  An hour and a half of walking and two big hill climbs, not bad for a rest day.  Tomorrow I hit the treadmill again.<br />
    <br />
    Eating has been good, been getting up and having a bowl of cereal, usually just leftovers for lunch and one portion of whatever I'm served up at dinner.  Lots of bananas and apples and no junk food in the house.  <br />
    <br />
    I'm going down to the Waikaia Cabaret Ball this weekend (it's a public event so all welcome, $10 on the door and wear your best tweed suit) so it will be a monumental blowout [dreaming] but that will be the last drinking I do before I hand in my thesis in October.  Too much work piling up and too much training to do.  [/dreaming]

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    Miller V Jackson
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    #99

    PdP and Bartman, nearly moderated by MvJ  <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' /> <br />
    <br />
    You are a lucky man having bananas: the cyclone wiped them all out over here, so they're $18+ per kilo if you can get them at all. They're snapped up as soon as they hit the supermarket shelves in Potts Point, for reasons I do not want to think about. <br />
    <br />
    Today's hint for the newcomer: drink a glass of water before each meal Barnya, so my Great Australian Diet book says. MvJ did it because, let's face it, it is difficult to think of something so painless that could actually contribute to fat busting. <br />
    <br />
    If you can't be bothered drinking a glass of water before each meal, then give up now. On the other hand, if you can, that's 21 fat busting sessions per week scheduled already; 63 if you count the walks to and from the tap  :happy:

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    Hooroo
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    [quote name='Miller V Jackson']<br />
    PdP and Bartman, nearly moderated by MvJ  <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' /> <br />
    <br />
    You are a lucky man having bananas: the cyclone wiped them all out over here, so they're $18+ per kilo if you can get them at all. They're snapped up as soon as they hit the supermarket shelves in Potts Point, for reasons I do not want to think about. <br />
    <br />
    Today's hint for the newcomer: drink a glass of water before each meal Barnya, so my Great Australian Diet book says. MvJ did it because, let's face it, it is difficult to think of something so painless that could actually contribute to fat busting. <br />
    <br />
    If you can't be bothered drinking a glass of water before each meal, then give up now. On the other hand, if you can, that's 21 fat busting sessions per week scheduled already; 63 if you count the walks to and from the tap  :happy:<br />
    [/quote]<br />
    <br />
    Slightly OT but are you serious about Bananas (When ever I type Bananas I picture Gwen Stefani spelling it for me <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> ) being $18 a kilo?  Has NZ been stung by this as well?  If not, why don't Oz just get them from the same supplier as NZ?

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    Miller V Jackson
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    I am deadly serious, and I have no idea why OZ don't import them from wherever NZ do. <br />
    <br />
    My sister was over from Auckland two weeks ago and I had to actually take her to the supermarket and show her the prices as she refused to believe me.

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    Bullethole
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    #102

    Drinking water is one thing I never struggle with, I suck down plenty of that shit every day.<br />
    <br />
    Bananas are cheap, plentiful and delicious over here.  I never liked Aussie bananas anyway, sometimes they were hard and gritty and just feral.<br />
    <br />
    Capsicums, courgettes and the like are bloody expensive at the moment though due to the freezing winter I presume.

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  • SquirrelS Offline
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    Squirrel
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    #103

    Good man with the water. Make sure you keep up your salt too, as when you sweat you remove a lot of salt osmotically.<br />
    <br />
    Can you publish some running times on here, so we can measure your progress? Only publish the good times if you want.

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    #104

    And tell us what time you are aiming at too.<br />
    <br />
    My PB for a half marathon is 1.58. But I'm twice your age and weight.<br />
    <br />
    No pressure then ... :whistle:

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    Bullethole
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    Anything under 2 hours would be fantastic.  Just finishing is the goal 😁<br />
    <br />
    Monday ran 7km in about 47min, today 6km on the treadmill in 40min.  I don't want to push it too much at the moment because I'm getting some aches and pains.  After my runs I get intermittent stabbing pains which run through my knee like a lightning bolt.  It's fucking painful but dies down after a few hours.<br />
    <br />
    Doing 50 sit ups and 50 push ups a day too.<br />
    <br />
    Just listening to Cameron Brown on the radio, this guy is simply phenomenal.  Swims 3.8km, bikes 180km then runs twice as far as I'm going to, and is the best in the world at it.  Fuck a duck!

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    Bullethole
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    2/8...8km in 51mins, taking five minutes off my PB!  I busted my balls on this one and boy it felt good.<br />
    <br />
    There's two key factors to a successful run I reckon:<br />

    1. Don't go out too hard.  If you axe yourself in the first 500m, it sets the tone for the rest of the run.  Go out easy and build up your pace.<br />
    2. Think positive!  Don't think about what a bitch this is and how far you have to go.  Get your mind off it.  The whole way today I was thinking about my triumphant Saturday night (she was a bangin' hottie) and before I knew it I was home!<br />
      <br />
      Breakfast: N/A<br />
      Lunch: Roast beer and salad baguette<br />
      Dinner: Lasagne with veges<br />
      <br />
      Snacking: a few bits of chocolate and an apple.<br />
      <br />
      Will try and update this daily now in order to guilt trip myself into exercising and eating well every day.
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    Miller V Jackson
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    #107

    [quote name='Barnya']<br />
    Lunch: Roast beer and salad baguette<br />
    [/quote]<br />
    <br />
    <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' /> <br />
    <br />
    Good job on the run; I agree with the two keys to a successful run that you've outlined.

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    Bullethole
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    [quote name='Miller V Jackson']<br />
    [quote name='Barnya']<br />
    Lunch: Roast beer and salad baguette<br />
    [/quote]<br />
    <br />
    <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' /> <br />
    [/quote]<br />
    <br />
    I may have meant roast beef.  You can see what's on my mind though  :shifty:<br />
    <br />
    My left knee's at it again, now it's a persistent dull ache behind the kneecap.  Ouch ouch ouch.  Mother fucker!  Looks like I'm going to have to scale it back to one day on, one day off.  The local pool is just up from my place, might be worth going up for a swim on my off days?  Or even just aqua-jogging, it looks gay but I've done it in the past and it's fun and a full body workout.

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    You need to rest as well as run. <br />
    <br />
    You don't only get fitter during the actual exercise or activity. Your body continues to adapt and does that more efficiently when it is not being continually stressed - i.e. when resting. That is why your programme at the beginning of this thread looked suicidal. Aerobic fitness is one thing, but leg strength is another altogether and you will need to let your legs recover after each sesssion, certainly in the early days of your regime. <br />
    <br />
    Your idea re swimming/ aqua jogging is very good. I would also add cycling in there either on-road or on an exercise bike. Cross training is the answer rather than just running. Remember: running makes you fit, but it does not make you strong. An alternative exercise (cycling, swimming, weights) will help achieve the correct balance. A personal trainer mate of mine swears by leg strengthening exercises like lunges (backwards and forwards) and squats (including single leg squats). These also build up the muscles that control your stability when running so you are not wandering all over the place and wasting effort.<br />
    <br />
    Finally, Runners World magazine ran an excellent feature which showed that runners could lower their Marathon and HM times by running less. The regime was just three sessions a week but split into the following: Hill or speed reps; a tempo run (A shorter run at 85% capacity) and a long run at race pace (lower than tempo). By combining with cross training, the results were impressive with most people at least running the same times or less than their previous intensive training regimes.<br />
    <br />
    Keep it up.

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    Thanks for those times - they look pretty good. Rest might be the key for you knee, and regular icing. The swimming sounds like a good idea - its still fitness - and hard work as well, but you will be keeping the weight off your knee.<br />
    <br />
    Like the motivation thoughts - I agree, really found they help. Thinking about the pain is not good, you need to push the pain to one side, and find the reason why you are running.<br />
    <br />
    Running buddies are good too - didn't you have a couple of those?

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    Bullethole
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    Fuck you guys are legends!  I didn't know any of this shit when I started out...I'm glad to have finally swallowed my pride and joined the legion of the fat fluffybunnies.<br />
    <br />
    Running buddies - yeah I've got three but they keep such different timetables to me that it's hard to coordinate.  My knee has recovered and is ready for more punishment tomorrow...I don't care if it falls to bits after the HM, I just want to finish that goddamn race.<br />
    <br />
    Eating could've been better today...<br />
    <br />
    Breakfast: got up at 8 but didn't have time to have anything as I had somewhere to be.  So, none.<br />
    Lunch: six slices of pizza.  My mate told me that one slice equates to 7 Jenny Craig Points, and you're meant to eat no more than 20 a day.  So I ate twice as many just at lunch.  Well in!  It's free though, so you can see the bind that I'm in.<br />
    Dinner: chicken and salad foccacia with rice.<br />
    <br />
    Will be [i] incommunicado [/i] for the weekend as I am going to Southland and they don't have the internet there, but here's my rough schedule:<br />
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    Saturday: game of poofball in the arvo, leftover vege pasta for lunch, bangers and mash at the Waikaia Tavern for dinner, and a crate of DB Draught.<br />
    <br />
    Sunday: hangover recovery, possibly an aqua-jogging session if I feel up to it, leftovers for lunch, tandoori chicken for dinner.<br />
    <br />
    Will have to buy an icepack, can get them on the cheap at the supermarket hopefully.

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