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    WalesOnline verdict.

    Agree on 3 of the 4. Patchell shit technique, carry on.

    1. Tipuric deliberately taken out off the ball in lead up to AAC try

    2. Kerevi penalty

    3. G Davies Interception

    4. Genia forward pass in lead up to DHP try

    Simon Thomas  /  Sep 30, 2019  /  Rugby News

    The Wales v Australia myths debunked as evidence proves whinging Wallabies have it so wrong | Wales Online

    The Wales v Australia myths debunked as evidence proves whinging Wallabies have it so wrong | Wales Online

    The key controversial calls from Wales-Australia analysed

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    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):

    WalesOnline verdict.

    Agree on 3 of the 4. Patchell shit technique, carry on.

    1. Tipuric deliberately taken out off the ball in lead up to AAC try

    2. Kerevi penalty

    3. G Davies Interception

    4. Genia forward pass in lead up to DHP try

    Simon Thomas  /  Sep 30, 2019  /  Rugby News

    The Wales v Australia myths debunked as evidence proves whinging Wallabies have it so wrong | Wales Online

    The Wales v Australia myths debunked as evidence proves whinging Wallabies have it so wrong | Wales Online

    The key controversial calls from Wales-Australia analysed

    Don't agree with the Tipuric call.

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    @booboo said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):

    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):

    WalesOnline verdict.

    Agree on 3 of the 4. Patchell shit technique, carry on.

    1. Tipuric deliberately taken out off the ball in lead up to AAC try

    2. Kerevi penalty

    3. G Davies Interception

    4. Genia forward pass in lead up to DHP try

    Simon Thomas  /  Sep 30, 2019  /  Rugby News

    The Wales v Australia myths debunked as evidence proves whinging Wallabies have it so wrong | Wales Online

    The Wales v Australia myths debunked as evidence proves whinging Wallabies have it so wrong | Wales Online

    The key controversial calls from Wales-Australia analysed

    Don't agree with the Tipuric call.

    From my Welsh couch I can understand it being fine if Tipuric had bought the dummy run and set up for a tackle, but I saw a defender (Tipuric) drifting across field following the ball and being cleaned out.

    Your take please?

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    @barbarian said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):

    The Davies call was 50/50, and at very least deserved a look upstairs. I think he's maybe an inch onside, but have a look at this shot:

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    To me that ball is not out of the ruck, and Davies is maybe just onside. But that's a static photo so hard to judge what happens next.

    Given the importance of the try in the context of the game, I'm amazed they didn't give it a second look.

    I don't disagree that the TMO should have reviewed it formally. Do we know that he didn't review it in the time taken between the try and the conversion? Knowing Ben Skeen I'd be a little surprised if he didn't have a look.

    I have seen another still, quite a few frames later when Genia has picked up the ball and is shaping to pass it. In that still Davies appears to be at the HMF or perhaps just slightly beyond it with one foot. I am very comfortable that Davies was not offside.

    What annoyed me about Kearns was he went on our national radio and confidently stated as FACT something that is clearly in the least debatable. It was the derision of the ref and his blanket statement that the Aussies were wronged by it that annoyed me.

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    @Damo this whinging and playing the victim is very un-Australian. Chieka, Kearns and everyone else who should know better should be ashamed

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    @ACT-Crusader said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):

    @mariner4life said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):

    @NTA DHP was excellent

    Agree. For a guy that’s usually good for a clanger or two a game, he played with great composure and backed up very well.

    Amazing how DHP plays well when he is selected in his proper position of fullback.

    Cheika has been shoe-horning him onto the wing for years and he's not cut out for it. He's a poor winger and a good fullback.

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    @canefan said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):

    @Damo this whinging and playing the victim is very un-Australian. Chieka, Kearns and everyone else who should know better should be ashamed

    That's a myth, the NRL is riddled with it - I don't watch AFL but I assume it is too.

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    @Nepia said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):

    @canefan said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):

    @Damo this whinging and playing the victim is very un-Australian. Chieka, Kearns and everyone else who should know better should be ashamed

    That's a myth, the NRL is riddled with it - I don't watch AFL but I assume it is too.

    French flair, hulking saffa forwards, now the aussies. Which of my long held preconceptions will be debunked next?

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    @canefan said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):

    @Nepia said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):

    @canefan said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):

    @Damo this whinging and playing the victim is very un-Australian. Chieka, Kearns and everyone else who should know better should be ashamed

    That's a myth, the NRL is riddled with it - I don't watch AFL but I assume it is too.

    French flair, hulking saffa forwards, now the aussies. Which of my long held preconceptions will be debunked next?

    Hopefully nothing to do with powder and dryness.

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    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):

    WalesOnline verdict.

    Agree on 3 of the 4. Patchell shit technique, carry on.

    1. Tipuric deliberately taken out off the ball in lead up to AAC try

    2. Kerevi penalty

    3. G Davies Interception

    4. Genia forward pass in lead up to DHP try

    Simon Thomas  /  Sep 30, 2019  /  Rugby News

    The Wales v Australia myths debunked as evidence proves whinging Wallabies have it so wrong | Wales Online

    The Wales v Australia myths debunked as evidence proves whinging Wallabies have it so wrong | Wales Online

    The key controversial calls from Wales-Australia analysed

    I really dislike these sort of articles.

    The premise is always 'well [TEAM X] think they were robbed, but actually it was [TEAM Y, WHO I SUPPORT] that was hard done by'.

    And I readily admit the Australian press pull this trick out on occasion too.

    Point #1 really sums it up. Go through the video of any try and there's a 100% chance you will find a penalty offence committed by the attacking team in the lead-up phases.

    Yeah it's a penalty. Well done, WalesOnline. But that sort of incident happens half a dozen times a game, especially in this era of 'second man' attack with lines of blockers running flat.

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    @canefan said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):

    @Damo this whinging and playing the victim is very un-Australian. Chieka, Kearns and everyone else who should know better should be ashamed

    Wow wow wow, lets be careful here. Claiming someone is un-Australian is the biggest insult in the universe. Equaled only by calling someone a Grub.
    Fair dinkum!

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    @pukunui said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):

    @canefan said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):

    @Damo this whinging and playing the victim is very un-Australian. Chieka, Kearns and everyone else who should know better should be ashamed

    Wow wow wow, lets be careful here. Claiming someone is un-Australian is the biggest insult in the universe. Equaled only by calling someone a Grub.
    Fair dinkum!

    I strongly debate that. The aussies love and celebrate grubs as long as they win!

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    @barbarian said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):

    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):

    WalesOnline verdict.

    Agree on 3 of the 4. Patchell shit technique, carry on.

    1. Tipuric deliberately taken out off the ball in lead up to AAC try

    2. Kerevi penalty

    3. G Davies Interception

    4. Genia forward pass in lead up to DHP try

    Simon Thomas  /  Sep 30, 2019  /  Rugby News

    The Wales v Australia myths debunked as evidence proves whinging Wallabies have it so wrong | Wales Online

    The Wales v Australia myths debunked as evidence proves whinging Wallabies have it so wrong | Wales Online

    The key controversial calls from Wales-Australia analysed

    I really dislike these sort of articles.

    The premise is always 'well [TEAM X] think they were robbed, but actually it was [TEAM Y, WHO I SUPPORT] that was hard done by'.

    And I readily admit the Australian press pull this trick out on occasion too.

    Point #1 really sums it up. Go through the video of any try and there's a 100% chance you will find a penalty offence committed by the attacking team in the lead-up phases.

    Yeah it's a penalty. Well done, WalesOnline. But that sort of incident happens half a dozen times a game, especially in this era of 'second man' attack with lines of blockers running flat.

    fucking me too #metoo

    Rugby is a fucked game. If you trawl through a rugby game in slow mo, getting the pause button out, and make some stills, any rugby game, between any sides, you can very easily build a narrative about how you were robbed, because there is iffy shit at every single breakdown/contest. And without context, you can make it damning as fuck.

    This arms race of deadshits claiming they were robbed, being one-upped by deadshits from the other side claiming they were robbeder, is how we end up in this fucking mess in the first place.

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    This still shows that he was clearly onside.
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    @akan004 arms race!

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    @akan004 That blue line is a generous offside line

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    @Kirwan on the other hand it's also well after Genia has picked up the ball.

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    @KiwiMurph said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):

    @Kirwan on the other hand it's also well after Genia has picked up the ball.

    Yep, to be clear, I think he was onside when I rewound it

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    @KiwiMurph Yeah, but the last Welsh players feet probably hadn't moved much from the ruck.

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    @Kirwan said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):

    @KiwiMurph said in RWC: Australia v Wales (Pool D):

    @Kirwan on the other hand it's also well after Genia has picked up the ball.

    Yep, to be clear, I think he was onside when I rewound it

    He was actually more onside than the guys next to the ruck - given there are no "last feet" on their side, technically any part of their body in contact with the ground should be back behind the last body on the ground on their side.

    But fuck it: for me no penalty. And if they'd looked at it with the TMO, they would have found that.

    As @barbarian said last night, it seems the refs have eased right up on the gate at ruck time, as well as play on the ground in general. THe attacking team is getting a bit more leeway than the defenders, and that is producing rugby with fewer penalties.

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