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RWC: England v Australia (QF 1)

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  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

    @taniwharugby said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @antipodean plus his compatriots as ARs and Skeeny as TMO....

    the dream team

    IMO the best french ref is the tall skinny bloke

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    @mariner4life said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @taniwharugby said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @antipodean plus his compatriots as ARs and Skeeny as TMO....

    the dream team

    IMO the best french ref is the tall skinny bloke

    I wouldn't call Peter Sellers skinny.

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    • antipodeanA antipodean

      England and Australia get Garces as ref.

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      @antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

      England and Australia get Garces as ref.

      Good luck Aussie.

      If a match is going to end in controversy it could easily be this one.

      It suits England’s tabloids more for them to be shafted.

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          Really want Aussie to get up for this one Perth-style, think England will be a tough SF opponent (if we beat Ire) if they're high on confidence from winning well.

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            @TeWaio said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

            Really want Aussie to get up for this one Perth-style, think England will be a tough SF opponent (if we beat Ire) if they're high on confidence from winning well.

            I just want all our Southern neighbors to beat the UK teams. And of course I think we have a better chance against Aus than England. I'd love to see them pull out a Perth game.

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            • The IrishmanT The Irishman

              @Darren said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

              @TeWaio said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

              Really want Aussie to get up for this one Perth-style, think England will be a tough SF opponent (if we beat Ire) if they're high on confidence from winning well.

              I just want all our Southern neighbors to beat the UK teams. And of course I think we have a better chance against Aus than England. I'd love to see them pull out a Perth game.

              What about Ireland? You didn't mention them.....just the UK teams....🤔

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              @The-Irishman said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

              @Darren said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

              @TeWaio said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

              Really want Aussie to get up for this one Perth-style, think England will be a tough SF opponent (if we beat Ire) if they're high on confidence from winning well.

              I just want all our Southern neighbors to beat the UK teams. And of course I think we have a better chance against Aus than England. I'd love to see them pull out a Perth game.

              What about Ireland? You didn't mention them.....just the UK teams....🤔

              I believe he's a Kiwi....so the question should really be who's he supporting in the SA/Japan clash shouldn't it? I guess Brexit could change things for NI though huh.

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                He only made his Test debut two weeks ago but 19-year-old Jordan Petaia will make a shock start at outside centre in the Wallabies’ Rugby World Cup quarterfinal against England.                     
                                                                                                                                                                                                                        In the biggest selection bombshell in Australian World Cup history, Petaia — who scored on debut against Uruguay — will replace James O’Connor at No 13 in Oita on Saturday, foxsports.com.au understands.
                

                https://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/wallabies/michael-cheika-to-punt-on-jordan-petaia-at-no13-in-australias-biggest-ever-rwc-gamble/news-story/c290f60ff917cab9661c1f3552c9b468

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                  They've clearly not leaned from our mistakes

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                    So a Toomua-Kerevi-Petaia combo?

                    If this move is to counter the size and power of Tuilagi then why not Kuridrani?

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                    • voodooV voodoo

                      They've clearly not leaned from our mistakes

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                      @voodoo said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                      They've clearly not leaned from our mistakes

                      Petaia is a centre.

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                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                        @voodoo said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                        They've clearly not leaned from our mistakes

                        Petaia is a centre.

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                        @KiwiMurph he's not really though is he? Played so his school footie at FB and Wing. I know he played some at 13 fpr QLD pre-injury, but it's not like he has years of honing the skills for that spot. Marshalling defenses etc

                        Edit to add to this - its not that I don't rate him at 13, he clearly has talent. But it's game time there at this level and also outside Kerevi, especially on D, that just makes this fraught with danger IMO. It's a heck of a punt

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                        • voodooV voodoo

                          @KiwiMurph he's not really though is he? Played so his school footie at FB and Wing. I know he played some at 13 fpr QLD pre-injury, but it's not like he has years of honing the skills for that spot. Marshalling defenses etc

                          Edit to add to this - its not that I don't rate him at 13, he clearly has talent. But it's game time there at this level and also outside Kerevi, especially on D, that just makes this fraught with danger IMO. It's a heck of a punt

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                          @voodoo Petaia also played outside centre in the NRC last year.

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                            @KiwiMurph Fair enough.

                            So you wouldn't be worried? I would be. I think it's a heck of a cauldron to throw him into. 6th 9/10 partnership in 6 tests. Just the 2nd time Genia and Lilo have played together. And Tuilagi running at him.

                            Good luck to the kid, I truly hope he does well

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                              @KiwiMurph Fair enough.

                              So you wouldn't be worried? I would be. I think it's a heck of a cauldron to throw him into. 6th 9/10 partnership in 6 tests. Just the 2nd time Genia and Lilo have played together. And Tuilagi running at him.

                              Good luck to the kid, I truly hope he does well

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                              @voodoo It's definitely risky but I don't see that many great alternative options. JOC is not a 13 himself. Kerevi and TK have never worked as a combo. Petaia looks like the best back prospect that has come through the Aussie system in 10 years - he's one of their best talents they have so I think they are much better off with him out there rather than being too cautious and wondering what if. Wallabies have lost something like 6 test matches in a row against England so what they have been doing hasn't been working.

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                                I'll firstly point out that Christy Doran says some weird bullshit about rugby. Never had much time for his writing.

                                However, Cheika makes no secret about a lot of the shit he does, so this is just crazy enough to be true. And it isn't the worst 23 we can put out, so whatever.

                                1 Sio
                                2 Latu
                                3 Alaalatoa
                                4 Rodda
                                5 Arnold
                                6 Pocock
                                7 Hooper (c)
                                8 Naisarani
                                9 Genia
                                10 Lealiifano
                                11 Koroibete
                                12 Kerevi
                                13 Petaia
                                14 Hodge
                                15 Beale/DHP

                                16 Uelese
                                17 Slipper
                                18 Tupou
                                19 Coleman
                                20 Salakaia-Loto
                                21 White
                                22 To'omua
                                23 JOC

                                Lot of young blokes there I must say. Average ages:

                                STARTING XV - 26.9

                                • Tight Five - 26.2
                                • Forwards -26.6
                                • Backs - 27.1

                                BENCH VIII - 26.6

                                • Forwards - 25.2
                                • Backs - 29 (all of them born before August 1990)

                                MATCH DAY XXIII - 26.8

                                Oldest: Pocock @ 31 (Slipper and Beale are 30)
                                Youngest: Petaia @ 19 (Uelese 22, Rodda 23)

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                                  Pinched from Stuff.

                                  Team announcements for Rugby World Cup quarter-finals (NZ time)
                                  Thursday: England (3pm), Australia (9pm).

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                                    IF IF IF that is the team:

                                    I think our forward pack will probably give a better account of themselves than in the last 6 drubbings by England, which isn't saying much. That is basically a forward pack that is predictable - tho the complete absence of Kepu is somewhat of a surprise.

                                    The backs have some good combinations. It will be interesting to see Kerevi line up the hole between George Ford and Shoulders Farrell to see how hard the Pommy back row want to work. Probably more interesting will be watching them skip pass Kerevi and see how Tuilagi deals with Petaia and vice-versa.

                                    The downfall? Our game plan - the one-out attacking will get eaten up by the Poms and they'll rely on the French ref's complete lack of desire to adjudicate the ruck as carte blanche to mess it up good.

                                    Probably the best-ish team we could have picked but we'll still get mullered to the tune of 15 points.

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                                      England confirmed

                                      15 Elliot Daly (Saracens, 36 caps)

                                      14 Anthony Watson (Bath Rugby, 39 caps)

                                      13 Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs, 23 caps)

                                      12 Manu Tuilagi (Leicester Tigers, 37 caps)

                                      11 Jonny May (Leicester Tigers, 49 caps)

                                      10 Owen Farrell (Saracens, 76 caps) C

                                      9 Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 92 caps)

                                      1 Mako Vunipola (Saracens, 55 caps)

                                      2 Jamie George (Saracens, 42 caps)

                                      3 Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins, 28 caps)

                                      4 Maro Itoje (Saracens, 31 caps)

                                      5 Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints, 78 caps)

                                      6 Tom Curry (Sale Sharks, 16 caps)

                                      7 Sam Underhill (Bath Rugby, 12 caps)

                                      8 Billy Vunipola (Saracens, 48 caps)

                                      Reserves

                                      16 Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs, 18 caps)

                                      17 Joe Marler (Harlequins, 65 caps)

                                      18 Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers, 92 caps)

                                      19 George Kruis (Saracens, 38 caps)

                                      20 Lewis Ludlam (Northampton Saints, 5 caps)

                                      21 Willi Heinz (Gloucester Rugby, 7 caps)

                                      22 George Ford (Leicester Tigers, 62 caps)

                                      23 Jonathan Joseph (Bath Rugby, 44 caps)

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                                        I note the reserves are called finishers in the official press release.

                                        Lawes ahead of Kruis is a little surprising, although I rate the former player.

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                                          Interesting for me they choose to leave Ford on the bench. Bash n barge it is, then look to finish us off with pace.

                                          Run at Farrell all day until the red card achievement is unlocked.

                                          Maybe it'll be red for Kerevi fending him off. Who knows? #wheelofskeen

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