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RWC: England v Australia (QF 1)

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  • canefanC canefan

    @jegga said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @jegga said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    I think Krusty should really stay away from the media for a while. They played "quite well" ffs

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116723078/rugby-world-cup-wallabies-coach-michael-cheika-tells-cruel-media-to-stall-resignation-talk

    The gall to ask for a safe space during a press conference.

    The sooner he’s gone the better

    Who should they get next? I think someone who has the polar opposite temperament would be a good start. And more tactical nous

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    @canefan said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @jegga said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    @jegga said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

    I think Krusty should really stay away from the media for a while. They played "quite well" ffs

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116723078/rugby-world-cup-wallabies-coach-michael-cheika-tells-cruel-media-to-stall-resignation-talk

    The gall to ask for a safe space during a press conference.

    The sooner he’s gone the better

    Who should they get next? I think someone who has the polar opposite temperament would be a good start. And more tactical nous

    Key for me is A coach that:

    Is happy to evolve and have his ideas challenged
    Is pragmatic not idealistic
    Is good at PR/press as Ozzieika rugby is in a bad place

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    • barbarianB barbarian

      Dave Rennie is the front runner, apparently.

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      @barbarian said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

      Dave Rennie is the front runner, apparently.

      @barbarian said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

      Dave Rennie is the front runner, apparently.

      Is there no Aussies keen ? The last kiwi had a great cv and that didn’t end too well

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      • barbarianB barbarian

        Dave Rennie is the front runner, apparently.

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        @barbarian said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

        Dave Rennie is the front runner, apparently.

        I think he would be a great choice. Unassuming, humble, clearly has ability and is a winner. Won't be a dick like Dingo was, a breath of fresh air. Isn't he contracted in Scotland?

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          Rennie could also continue on with the ref whinging like he did with the Chiefs. Not sure if he's been like that since he moved off shore.

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            The problem for any coach is the issues are deeper than they can address in a Wallaby camp.

            And a number of senior/ good players are leaving so there's not a lot in the cupboard to build around.

            Having said that, any coach would be an improvement on Crusty.

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              is there even a chance he might not leave, ridiculous if there is. He should be shown the door, last night highlighted so many errors in the Aussie game, some half decent tactics and Aussie had a good shot at winning last night.

              Wasnt there talk he should go prior to 2015?

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              • antipodeanA antipodean

                The problem for any coach is the issues are deeper than they can address in a Wallaby camp.

                And a number of senior/ good players are leaving so there's not a lot in the cupboard to build around.

                Having said that, any coach would be an improvement on Crusty.

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                @antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                And a number of senior/ good players are leaving so there's not a lot in the cupboard to build around.

                in a way that will help somewhat...

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                  https://twitter.com/rugbyworldcup/status/1185490434669338624?

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                  • barbarianB barbarian

                    Pretty gutted. Feels like the last four years have been such a waste. This team could be so much more than what it is.

                    We actually played OK, England were just better. Not much more to it than that, really.

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                    @barbarian said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                    This team could be so much more than what it is.

                    If it wasn't Australia I could possibly feel sorry for you, because I agree.

                    Some really good players (Beale is great) but there is no cohesion. I guess the modern term would be culture, but something is going wrong.

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                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                      is there even a chance he might not leave, ridiculous if there is. He should be shown the door, last night highlighted so many errors in the Aussie game, some half decent tactics and Aussie had a good shot at winning last night.

                      Wasnt there talk he should go prior to 2015?

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                      @taniwharugby said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                      is there even a chance he might not leave, ridiculous if there is. He should be shown the door, last night highlighted so many errors in the Aussie game, some half decent tactics and Aussie had a good shot at winning last night.

                      Wasnt there talk he should go prior to 2015?

                      He said if he didn't win the cup he would go, several times. So he's gone.

                      Although I remember Foolau saying if he was every hurting rugby he'd also go....

                      Lying convicts

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                      • antipodeanA antipodean

                        @NTA said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                        Genia was fucking shit this RWC. Has been ever since he got back from France bar a couple of games where he looked better than shit

                        Just astonishing that any coach would select a player that so obviously tales time and space away from his team. Especially if you want to start with urgency.

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                        @antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                        @NTA said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                        Genia was fucking shit this RWC. Has been ever since he got back from France bar a couple of games where he looked better than shit

                        Just astonishing that any coach would select a player that so obviously tales time and space away from his team. Especially if you want to start with urgency.

                        If you think Genia cost Australia this match perhaps you should heed Darryl Kerrigan's advice

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                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                          Why is Englands game plan devoid of usingb2 of their weapons: Watson and Tuilagi? The latter was pretty much anonymous for most of the game.

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                          @taniwharugby said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                          Why is Englands game plan devoid of usingb2 of their weapons: Watson and Tuilagi? The latter was pretty much anonymous for most of the game.

                          Because he was playing out of position on offence and covering both inside and outside centre on defence.

                          Should have gotten a double win bonus.

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                          • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                            @antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                            @NTA said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                            Genia was fucking shit this RWC. Has been ever since he got back from France bar a couple of games where he looked better than shit

                            Just astonishing that any coach would select a player that so obviously tales time and space away from his team. Especially if you want to start with urgency.

                            If you think Genia cost Australia this match perhaps you should heed Darryl Kerrigan's advice

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                            @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                            @antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                            @NTA said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                            Genia was fucking shit this RWC. Has been ever since he got back from France bar a couple of games where he looked better than shit

                            Just astonishing that any coach would select a player that so obviously tales time and space away from his team. Especially if you want to start with urgency.

                            If you think Genia cost Australia this match perhaps you should heed Darryl Kerrigan's advice

                            He certainly didn't add to their attacking repertoire did he?

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                              @barbarian said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                              This team could be so much more than what it is.

                              If it wasn't Australia I could possibly feel sorry for you, because I agree.

                              Some really good players (Beale is great) but there is no cohesion. I guess the modern term would be culture, but something is going wrong.

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                              @Snowy said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                              @barbarian said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                              This team could be so much more than what it is.

                              If it wasn't Australia I could possibly feel sorry for you, because I agree.

                              Some really good players (Beale is great) but there is no cohesion. I guess the modern term would be culture, but something is going wrong.

                              Beale was equal proportion the solution and the problem.

                              The story of his rugby career.

                              A better coach would have harnessed him or jettisoned him.

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                              • antipodeanA antipodean

                                @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                                @antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                                @NTA said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                                Genia was fucking shit this RWC. Has been ever since he got back from France bar a couple of games where he looked better than shit

                                Just astonishing that any coach would select a player that so obviously tales time and space away from his team. Especially if you want to start with urgency.

                                If you think Genia cost Australia this match perhaps you should heed Darryl Kerrigan's advice

                                He certainly didn't add to their attacking repertoire did he?

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                                @antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                                @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                                @antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                                @NTA said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                                Genia was fucking shit this RWC. Has been ever since he got back from France bar a couple of games where he looked better than shit

                                Just astonishing that any coach would select a player that so obviously tales time and space away from his team. Especially if you want to start with urgency.

                                If you think Genia cost Australia this match perhaps you should heed Darryl Kerrigan's advice

                                He certainly didn't add to their attacking repertoire did he?

                                Of course.

                                But that's not why Australia lost.

                                He did his job and whilst slow, was pretty much error free.

                                Others gifted the match to England.

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                                • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                  @Snowy said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                                  @barbarian said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                                  This team could be so much more than what it is.

                                  If it wasn't Australia I could possibly feel sorry for you, because I agree.

                                  Some really good players (Beale is great) but there is no cohesion. I guess the modern term would be culture, but something is going wrong.

                                  Beale was equal proportion the solution and the problem.

                                  The story of his rugby career.

                                  A better coach would have harnessed him or jettisoned him.

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                                  @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                                  @Snowy said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                                  @barbarian said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                                  This team could be so much more than what it is.

                                  If it wasn't Australia I could possibly feel sorry for you, because I agree.

                                  Some really good players (Beale is great) but there is no cohesion. I guess the modern term would be culture, but something is going wrong.

                                  Beale was equal proportion the solution and the problem.

                                  The story of his rugby career.

                                  A better coach would have harnessed him or jettisoned him.

                                  Fair call. Raw talent that has been wasted to an extent.

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                                    Cheika will go, of that there is very little doubt. We are also losing (through retirement) Genia, Pocock, Kepu.

                                    The future is pretty bright. The new coach will inherit a talented squad, depth in the pack, and an ability to put good teams away when they get it right.

                                    A few relatively minor tactical adjustments (eg. not running it off our own fucking line), and I think things will start to turn around.

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                                    • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                      @antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                                      @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                                      @antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                                      @NTA said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                                      Genia was fucking shit this RWC. Has been ever since he got back from France bar a couple of games where he looked better than shit

                                      Just astonishing that any coach would select a player that so obviously tales time and space away from his team. Especially if you want to start with urgency.

                                      If you think Genia cost Australia this match perhaps you should heed Darryl Kerrigan's advice

                                      He certainly didn't add to their attacking repertoire did he?

                                      Of course.

                                      But that's not why Australia lost.

                                      He did his job and whilst slow, was pretty much error free.

                                      Others gifted the match to England.

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                                      @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                                      @antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                                      @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                                      @antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                                      @NTA said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                                      Genia was fucking shit this RWC. Has been ever since he got back from France bar a couple of games where he looked better than shit

                                      Just astonishing that any coach would select a player that so obviously tales time and space away from his team. Especially if you want to start with urgency.

                                      If you think Genia cost Australia this match perhaps you should heed Darryl Kerrigan's advice

                                      He certainly didn't add to their attacking repertoire did he?

                                      Of course.

                                      If your forwards and backline are consistently getting hit behind the gainline because the halfback is delaying passes, you're not on the road to winning. His play actively hampered the Wallabies. The difference was immediately noticeable when White came on.

                                      But that's not why Australia lost.

                                      But feel free to continue this argument of yours that no one else is having.

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                                      • antipodeanA antipodean

                                        @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                                        @antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                                        @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                                        @antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                                        @NTA said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                                        Genia was fucking shit this RWC. Has been ever since he got back from France bar a couple of games where he looked better than shit

                                        Just astonishing that any coach would select a player that so obviously tales time and space away from his team. Especially if you want to start with urgency.

                                        If you think Genia cost Australia this match perhaps you should heed Darryl Kerrigan's advice

                                        He certainly didn't add to their attacking repertoire did he?

                                        Of course.

                                        If your forwards and backline are consistently getting hit behind the gainline because the halfback is delaying passes, you're not on the road to winning. His play actively hampered the Wallabies. The difference was immediately noticeable when White came on.

                                        But that's not why Australia lost.

                                        But feel free to continue this argument of yours that no one else is having.

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                                        @antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                                        @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                                        @antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                                        @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                                        @antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                                        @NTA said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                                        Genia was fucking shit this RWC. Has been ever since he got back from France bar a couple of games where he looked better than shit

                                        Just astonishing that any coach would select a player that so obviously tales time and space away from his team. Especially if you want to start with urgency.

                                        If you think Genia cost Australia this match perhaps you should heed Darryl Kerrigan's advice

                                        He certainly didn't add to their attacking repertoire did he?

                                        Of course.

                                        If your forwards and backline are consistently getting hit behind the gainline because the halfback is delaying passes, you're not on the road to winning. His play actively hampered the Wallabies. The difference was immediately noticeable when White came on.

                                        But that's not why Australia lost.

                                        But feel free to continue this argument of yours that no one else is having.

                                        πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

                                        Because the White in shining armour made such a difference

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                                        • barbarianB barbarian

                                          Cheika will go, of that there is very little doubt. We are also losing (through retirement) Genia, Pocock, Kepu.

                                          The future is pretty bright. The new coach will inherit a talented squad, depth in the pack, and an ability to put good teams away when they get it right.

                                          A few relatively minor tactical adjustments (eg. not running it off our own fucking line), and I think things will start to turn around.

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                                          @barbarian said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                                          Cheika will go, of that there is very little doubt. We are also losing (through retirement) Genia, Pocock, Kepu.

                                          The future is pretty bright. The new coach will inherit a talented squad, depth in the pack, and an ability to put good teams away when they get it right.

                                          A few relatively minor tactical adjustments (eg. not running it off our own fucking line), and I think things will start to turn around.

                                          Still got Hooper signed for four more years tho

                                          But yes, a coach open to change and pragmatism will make a massive difference. Cheika is like pocock, a one trick pony.

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