RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2)
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Since there doesn't appear to be a separate thread for this game, I thought I'd start one. Even if @MiketheSnow and I will constitute a posting majority on here that would be the envy of most parliaments world-wide these days.
So let me kick it off with some of SA's challenges for this weekend:
GARCES - the man-with-no-love-for-the-Bokke who will control (or not) affairs on the day...
To date, Garces has only reffed one game involving Wales and SA. Wales won. No biggie on it's own.
But factor in that stretching back to 2013 the Boks have won only 4 of 14 games (29%) where the French Mr Bean had the whistle and you can understand that Bok fans are not thrilled. Add in the fact that Garces was the conductor at both the Miracle in Brighton and again when SA lost to Italy for the first time ever in their history and it is not hard to understand why us biltong lovers are reaching for our tin-foil hats.Could be that we were just shite on the day.... but let's not let that inconvenient fact get in the way of a good story.
If we lose on Sunday Garces is bound to be part of the
moaningconversation.It couldn't possibly be our game plan or skills that weren't up to scratch..
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wow, they were just saying on the Radio, SA have won just 1/10 matches under Garces...
@taniwharugby said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):
wow, they were just saying on the Radio, SA have won just 1/10 matches under Garces...
Did they say how many Wales have won?
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It depends on the calibre of their opponents. I mean if most of them were countries like NZ, Japan, Italy, and other Rugby Championship teams that beat them regularly then it is not that surprising, even allowing for Garces' exentricities.
@Higgins said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):
It depends on the calibre of their opponents. I mean if most of them were countries like NZ, Japan, Italy, and other Rugby Championship teams that beat them regularly then it is not that surprising, even allowing for Garces' exentricities.
It would be interesting to see Faeces stats with SH v NH teams overall.
I suspect his “French style” doesn’t gel with SH play. He tends to look flustered when the pace is fast -
@taniwharugby said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):
wow, they were just saying on the Radio, SA have won just 1/10 matches under Garces...
Did they say how many Wales have won?
@Snowy nah I didnt hear the whole piece, assume they did.
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I've changed my opinion on this game. Wales are missing a couple of their better players. Not ideal at this time of the tournament.
Old bandy legs is a hell of a player, Halfpenny isn't a patch on him.
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Wales name team to face South Africa
Wales: 15. Leigh Halfpenny (Scarlets) (84 Caps), 14. George North (Ospreys) (90 Caps), 13. Jonathan Davies (Scarlets) (79 Caps), 12. Hadleigh Parkes (Scarlets) (23 Caps), 11. Josh Adams (Cardiff Blues) (19 Caps), 10. Dan Biggar (Northampton Saints) (77 Caps), 9. Gareth Davies (Scarlets) (49 Caps), 1. Wyn Jones (Scarlets) (20 Caps), 2. Ken Owens (Scarlets) (71 Caps), 3. Tomas Francis (Exeter Chiefs) (47 Caps), 4. Jake Ball (Scarlets) (40 Caps), 5. Alun Wyn Jones (Ospreys) (132 Caps) (CAPT), 6. Aaron Wainwright (Dragons) (17 Caps), 7. Justin Tipuric (Ospreys) (70 Caps), 8. Ross Moriarty (Dragons) (39 Caps).Replacements: Elliot Dee (Dragons) (27 Caps), 17. Rhys Carre (Saracens) (4 Caps)18. Dillon Lewis (Cardiff Blues) (20 Caps)19. Adam Beard (Ospreys) (18 Caps)20. Aaron Shingler (Scarlets) (24 Caps)21. Tomos Williams (Cardiff Blues) (14 Caps)22. Rhys Patchell (Scarlets) (17 Caps)23. Owen Watkin (Ospreys) (20 Caps).
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Wales name team to face South Africa
Wales: 15. Leigh Halfpenny (Scarlets) (84 Caps), 14. George North (Ospreys) (90 Caps), 13. Jonathan Davies (Scarlets) (79 Caps), 12. Hadleigh Parkes (Scarlets) (23 Caps), 11. Josh Adams (Cardiff Blues) (19 Caps), 10. Dan Biggar (Northampton Saints) (77 Caps), 9. Gareth Davies (Scarlets) (49 Caps), 1. Wyn Jones (Scarlets) (20 Caps), 2. Ken Owens (Scarlets) (71 Caps), 3. Tomas Francis (Exeter Chiefs) (47 Caps), 4. Jake Ball (Scarlets) (40 Caps), 5. Alun Wyn Jones (Ospreys) (132 Caps) (CAPT), 6. Aaron Wainwright (Dragons) (17 Caps), 7. Justin Tipuric (Ospreys) (70 Caps), 8. Ross Moriarty (Dragons) (39 Caps).Replacements: Elliot Dee (Dragons) (27 Caps), 17. Rhys Carre (Saracens) (4 Caps)18. Dillon Lewis (Cardiff Blues) (20 Caps)19. Adam Beard (Ospreys) (18 Caps)20. Aaron Shingler (Scarlets) (24 Caps)21. Tomos Williams (Cardiff Blues) (14 Caps)22. Rhys Patchell (Scarlets) (17 Caps)23. Owen Watkin (Ospreys) (20 Caps).
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Going this deep into the tournament and only being without Navidi and Liam Williams is pretty remarkable.
Their replacements - Moriarty and Halfpenny respectively - will do a job for us.
On a knife edge.
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@Billy-Webb but is he going in held together by tape!
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Still shake my head seeing Hadleigh Parkes running out. Good for him, but never set the world alight at the Blues.
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@Tim said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):
@nzzp He's on the same level as Crotty.
And as important for us as Crotty is/has been for you.
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@MiketheSnow said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):
@Catogrande said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):
Fuck. Not fake news
Yep he's gone. There are not many times you can say we will sorely miss a bandy legged rugby player, but this is one of them. Things have just got tougher.
From a mate
"Everything happens for a reason.
Halfpenny in and his three penalties along with tries from North and Adams help us comfortably beat SA who are too one-dimensional without Kolbe.
Then, in the World Cup Final against England, Halfpenny has a 50m kick in the last minute to win it. He wants it. He’s a nice guy. He deserves it. So does Alun Wyn. So does Gatland. So does Warburton. It creeps over the bar and Wales are world champions. Circle complete."
Cheers Rob
Second lions test 2013. Halfpennyu has 50m kick to win it. Is about 20m short.
Ain't happening.
@MajorRage said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):
@Catogrande said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):
Fuck. Not fake news
Yep he's gone. There are not many times you can say we will sorely miss a bandy legged rugby player, but this is one of them. Things have just got tougher.
From a mate
"Everything happens for a reason.
Halfpenny in and his three penalties along with tries from North and Adams help us comfortably beat SA who are too one-dimensional without Kolbe.
Then, in the World Cup Final against England, Halfpenny has a 50m kick in the last minute to win it. He wants it. He’s a nice guy. He deserves it. So does Alun Wyn. So does Gatland. So does Warburton. It creeps over the bar and Wales are world champions. Circle complete."
Cheers Rob
Second lions test 2013. Halfpennyu has 50m kick to win it. Is about 20m short.
Ain't happening.
Let’s not forget 2011...
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@Tim said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):
@nzzp He's on the same level as Crotty.
Really? I think Crotty > daylight > Parkes
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):
@Tim said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):
@nzzp He's on the same level as Crotty.
And as important for us as Crotty is/has been for you.
Crotty's not even on the bench
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@Billy-Webb said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):
13. Jonathan Davies (Scarlets)
That should cheer you up guys.
Certain loss without him.
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@Tim said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):
@nzzp He's on the same level as Crotty.
Really? I think Crotty > daylight > Parkes
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):
@Tim said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):
@nzzp He's on the same level as Crotty.
And as important for us as Crotty is/has been for you.
Crotty's not even on the bench
@nzzp said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):
@Tim said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):
@nzzp He's on the same level as Crotty.
Really? I think Crotty > daylight > Parkes
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):
@Tim said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):
@nzzp He's on the same level as Crotty.
And as important for us as Crotty is/has been for you.
Crotty's not even on the bench
Hence the 'has' you chose to miss.
Parkes has one thing on Crotty. Durability
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@nzzp said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):
@Tim said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):
@nzzp He's on the same level as Crotty.
Really? I think Crotty > daylight > Parkes
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):
@Tim said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):
@nzzp He's on the same level as Crotty.
And as important for us as Crotty is/has been for you.
Crotty's not even on the bench
Hence the 'has' you chose to miss.
Parkes has one thing on Crotty. Durability
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):
Parkes has one thing on Crotty. Durability
Two things.
he's very very consistent. Every time, you know what you get.
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So @MiketheSnow ... how are you feeling for this game now that the team has been announced?
My feeling is that if the Boks play well, we take it. I am putting my proverbial on the block right there
My biggest annoyance is that this game is on Sunday, not Saturday. I would have enjoyed the AB v Eng semi much more having our own done and dusted already...
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So @MiketheSnow ... how are you feeling for this game now that the team has been announced?
My feeling is that if the Boks play well, we take it. I am putting my proverbial on the block right there
My biggest annoyance is that this game is on Sunday, not Saturday. I would have enjoyed the AB v Eng semi much more having our own done and dusted already...
@Billy-Webb said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):
So @MiketheSnow ... how are you feeling for this game now that the team has been announced?
My feeling is that if the Boks play well, we take it. I am putting my proverbial on the block right there
My biggest annoyance is that this game is on Sunday, not Saturday. I would have enjoyed the AB v Eng semi much more having our own done and dusted already...
You're in the 'Bok' seat
Player for player there's not much in it in terms of ability and experience.
Collectively you have a better unit to control a match by physical means and win by submission.
Collectively we have a better unit to thwart and frustrate a team and win by submission.
As in all things this WC, the result will come down to
taking points when they're available - both teams waste great opportunities
injuries received during the match
YC and/or RC dished outWhoever wins will be knackered, broken or both.
