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RWC Final: England v Springboks

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  • CatograndeC Catogrande

    @MiketheSnow

    Question for you Mike, now that the immediate pain of missing out on the final may have lessened, which would you rather have in your pocket - RWC final or ending 66 years of hurt and beating NZ? And no, I’m not giving you the option of winning the Cup. 😉

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    @Catogrande said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

    @MiketheSnow

    Question for you Mike, now that the immediate pain of missing out on the final may have lessened, which would you rather have in your pocket - RWC final or ending 66 years of hurt and beating NZ? And no, I’m not giving you the option of winning the Cup. 😉

    100% being in the Final and having the opportunity to win it all 🙂

    Whilst the opportunity to win the WC comes round every four years, for a team like Wales it's more like an 8 or 12 year cycle.

    But seeing as you took that off the table, beating NZ.

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    • CatograndeC Catogrande

      @MiketheSnow said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

      Youngs injured early could be telling.

      Still not convinced that Slade is fully match fit.

      Slade is the worry, he’s a great player and adds a lot to England’s attack but has been a run short of a gallop in the RWC. Nowell is either still not fit or has dramatically slid downhill in Eddie’s thoughts. I’m not too worried about Spencer coming on for Youngs, as I feel he should have been there from the start. What does worry me is an early injury in the back three. No real cover there.

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      @Catogrande said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

      @MiketheSnow said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

      Youngs injured early could be telling.

      Still not convinced that Slade is fully match fit.

      I’m not too worried about Spencer coming on for Youngs, as I feel he should have been there from the start.

      Parachuted straight into a WC Final and coming on before the match is sewn up.

      Will take Beaver sized balls to not get overawed.

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      • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

        @Catogrande said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

        @MiketheSnow said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

        Youngs injured early could be telling.

        Still not convinced that Slade is fully match fit.

        I’m not too worried about Spencer coming on for Youngs, as I feel he should have been there from the start.

        Parachuted straight into a WC Final and coming on before the match is sewn up.

        Will take Beaver sized balls to not get overawed.

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        @MiketheSnow said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

        @Catogrande said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

        @MiketheSnow said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

        Youngs injured early could be telling.

        Still not convinced that Slade is fully match fit.

        I’m not too worried about Spencer coming on for Youngs, as I feel he should have been there from the start.

        Parachuted straight into a WC Final and coming on before the match is sewn up.

        Will take Beaver sized balls to not get overawed.

        You may have a point although perhaps less of an issue for him than Beaver. The latter had been looked at, derided and the overlooked. Was not even on the radar -not even a shirt to fit him and relatively unfit. Spencer has been on call from the word go and was involved in the England set up right until shipping out to Japan. For sure it's quite an ask but not up there with the Beaver fairytale. Doubt that can be beaten.

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          Willie Le Roux is a big roll of the dice.

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            Willie Le Roux is a big roll of the dice.

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            @pakman Re: Willie
            https://www.reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/dpmf6v/sas_gameplan/

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              @pakman Re: Willie
              https://www.reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/dpmf6v/sas_gameplan/

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              @Daffy-Jaffy said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

              @pakman Re: Willie
              https://www.reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/dpmf6v/sas_gameplan/

              That was pretty funny, Faf doing his hair before kicking more so than Willie.

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                https://www.instagram.com/p/B4S6R7wAwQH/?igshid=1k5oh98lifye9

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                  https://www.instagram.com/p/B4S6R7wAwQH/?igshid=1k5oh98lifye9

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                  @jegga said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                  https://www.instagram.com/p/B4S6R7wAwQH/?igshid=1k5oh98lifye9

                  That is an incredible stat and one I struggle to believe. So that means it was pick and gos all day

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                  • HoorooH Hooroo

                    @jegga said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                    https://www.instagram.com/p/B4S6R7wAwQH/?igshid=1k5oh98lifye9

                    That is an incredible stat and one I struggle to believe. So that means it was pick and gos all day

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                    @Hooroo And it also doesn't matter. If the game plan is to kick and tackle, and they win the game who cares how many passes got them there.

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                    • KirwanK Kirwan

                      @Hooroo And it also doesn't matter. If the game plan is to kick and tackle, and they win the game who cares how many passes got them there.

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                      @Kirwan said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                      @Hooroo And it also doesn't matter. If the game plan is to kick and tackle, and they win the game who cares how many passes got them there.

                      I agree but it is still an incredible stat for me. That must be some sort of record in the modern age?

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                        @Kirwan said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                        @Hooroo And it also doesn't matter. If the game plan is to kick and tackle, and they win the game who cares how many passes got them there.

                        I agree but it is still an incredible stat for me. That must be some sort of record in the modern age?

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                        @Hooroo said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                        @Kirwan said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                        @Hooroo And it also doesn't matter. If the game plan is to kick and tackle, and they win the game who cares how many passes got them there.

                        I agree but it is still an incredible stat for me. That must be some sort of record in the modern age?

                        Gregan had a similarly ridiculous stat in the lions series over the three tests . I can’t remember the exact figures off hand though .

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                        • jeggaJ jegga

                          @Hooroo said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                          @Kirwan said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                          @Hooroo And it also doesn't matter. If the game plan is to kick and tackle, and they win the game who cares how many passes got them there.

                          I agree but it is still an incredible stat for me. That must be some sort of record in the modern age?

                          Gregan had a similarly ridiculous stat in the lions series over the three tests . I can’t remember the exact figures off hand though .

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                          @jegga said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                          @Hooroo said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                          @Kirwan said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                          @Hooroo And it also doesn't matter. If the game plan is to kick and tackle, and they win the game who cares how many passes got them there.

                          I agree but it is still an incredible stat for me. That must be some sort of record in the modern age?

                          Gregan had a similarly ridiculous stat in the lions series over the three tests . I can’t remember the exact figures off hand though .

                          That's not the stat that interests me though, it is the lack of passes by SA in 80 mins that I struggle to get my head around

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                          • HoorooH Hooroo

                            @jegga said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                            @Hooroo said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                            @Kirwan said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                            @Hooroo And it also doesn't matter. If the game plan is to kick and tackle, and they win the game who cares how many passes got them there.

                            I agree but it is still an incredible stat for me. That must be some sort of record in the modern age?

                            Gregan had a similarly ridiculous stat in the lions series over the three tests . I can’t remember the exact figures off hand though .

                            That's not the stat that interests me though, it is the lack of passes by SA in 80 mins that I struggle to get my head around

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                            @Hooroo said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                            @jegga said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                            @Hooroo said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                            @Kirwan said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                            @Hooroo And it also doesn't matter. If the game plan is to kick and tackle, and they win the game who cares how many passes got them there.

                            I agree but it is still an incredible stat for me. That must be some sort of record in the modern age?

                            Gregan had a similarly ridiculous stat in the lions series over the three tests . I can’t remember the exact figures off hand though .

                            That's not the stat that interests me though, it is the lack of passes by SA in 80 mins that I struggle to get my head around

                            With you now. It does seem bizarre.

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                              https://www.instagram.com/p/B4S6R7wAwQH/?igshid=1k5oh98lifye9

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                              @jegga said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                              https://www.instagram.com/p/B4S6R7wAwQH/?igshid=1k5oh98lifye9

                              Faf de Klerk was catching a domestic flight in Japan and when he sat down in the aisle seat he noticed the guy in the window seat gave him a quick sideward glance then carried on reading his book. Convinced he had not been recognised he opened his passport and left it in full view of the guy at the window.

                              Still nothing, so he then placed his no 9 rugby Jersey on the tray, still no hint of recognition. Despite having his pen ready to sign.

                              Finally he couldn't contain himself anymore so he tapped the guy in the window seat on the shoulder and said "Excuse me, do you know who I am?" The bloke in the window seat says "Yes you are Faf de Klerk, Springbok scrum half".

                              Faf got this big grin and said "Yes that's me". The bloke in the window seat says "Do you know who I am?" Faf replies "No, I have never seen you before, who are you?" The bloke at the window says "Let me introduce myself, I am Handre Pollard, your fly half."

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                                @jegga said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                                https://www.instagram.com/p/B4S6R7wAwQH/?igshid=1k5oh98lifye9

                                Faf de Klerk was catching a domestic flight in Japan and when he sat down in the aisle seat he noticed the guy in the window seat gave him a quick sideward glance then carried on reading his book. Convinced he had not been recognised he opened his passport and left it in full view of the guy at the window.

                                Still nothing, so he then placed his no 9 rugby Jersey on the tray, still no hint of recognition. Despite having his pen ready to sign.

                                Finally he couldn't contain himself anymore so he tapped the guy in the window seat on the shoulder and said "Excuse me, do you know who I am?" The bloke in the window seat says "Yes you are Faf de Klerk, Springbok scrum half".

                                Faf got this big grin and said "Yes that's me". The bloke in the window seat says "Do you know who I am?" Faf replies "No, I have never seen you before, who are you?" The bloke at the window says "Let me introduce myself, I am Handre Pollard, your fly half."

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                                @antipodean was funnier in 1981 when it was Naas Botha 😉

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                                  A bloody interesting stat,

                                  South Africa have never scored a try in a WC final , despite winning 2 .

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                                  • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                                    A bloody interesting stat,

                                    South Africa have never scored a try in a WC final , despite winning 2 .

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                                    @kiwiinmelb said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                                    A bloody interesting stat,

                                    South Africa have never scored a try in a WC final , despite winning 2 .

                                    Another bloody interesting stat:

                                    South Africa have never conceded a try in a RWC final, despite playing in 2.

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                                    • Billy WebbB Billy Webb

                                      @kiwiinmelb said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                                      A bloody interesting stat,

                                      South Africa have never scored a try in a WC final , despite winning 2 .

                                      Another bloody interesting stat:

                                      South Africa have never conceded a try in a RWC final, despite playing in 2.

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                                      @Billy-Webb I’m guessing those stats will not be the same after this weekend

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                                      • Billy WebbB Billy Webb

                                        @kiwiinmelb said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                                        A bloody interesting stat,

                                        South Africa have never scored a try in a WC final , despite winning 2 .

                                        Another bloody interesting stat:

                                        South Africa have never conceded a try in a RWC final, despite playing in 2.

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                                        @Billy-Webb said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                                        @kiwiinmelb said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                                        A bloody interesting stat,

                                        South Africa have never scored a try in a WC final , despite winning 2 .

                                        Another bloody interesting stat:

                                        South Africa have never conceded a try in a RWC final, despite playing in 2.

                                        Not true, 14/15 replay angles showed Cueto scored in 2007 :fishing_pole:

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                                        • TeWaioT TeWaio

                                          @Billy-Webb said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                                          @kiwiinmelb said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                                          A bloody interesting stat,

                                          South Africa have never scored a try in a WC final , despite winning 2 .

                                          Another bloody interesting stat:

                                          South Africa have never conceded a try in a RWC final, despite playing in 2.

                                          Not true, 14/15 replay angles showed Cueto scored in 2007 :fishing_pole:

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                                          @TeWaio said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                                          @Billy-Webb said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                                          @kiwiinmelb said in RWC Final: England v Springboks:

                                          A bloody interesting stat,

                                          South Africa have never scored a try in a WC final , despite winning 2 .

                                          Another bloody interesting stat:

                                          South Africa have never conceded a try in a RWC final, despite playing in 2.

                                          Not true, 14/15 replay angles showed Cueto scored in 2007 :fishing_pole:

                                          Hahaha.
                                          Equally, Ed Morrison admitted years later that Ruben Kruger actually did score in 1995 😉

                                          Although, my hours of intensive research on the issue have failed to unearth a single official recording of either tries.

                                          Going to check social media though. Pretty sure that source of truth will validate that they actually occurred.
                                          Right next to definitive proof of the existence of Bigfoot.

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