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Hurricanes v Blues

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  • P pakman

    Blue's defence and general resiliance streets ahead of last year. :face_with_stuck-out_tongue:
    Lineout debacle in first half meant playing for long periods with no ball, and we did well to keep things to 5 points in first quarter. Parsons/GCT made things much better, and GCT seemed to hold up well in loose. Thought the Canes locks faded in second half.
    Not Faine's best game, and Plummer seemed to settle things. Ofa went much better at LH, although much of that post Lomax red. I think I prefer Marchant at 13 and Rieko on wing. Telea is real star, and reeks of X factor.
    For Canes, really liked the look of Kirifi. Bloody nuisance in first half. Laumape liklewise, albeit fairly quiet in second.

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    @pakman Telea has a big workrate too.

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      He looks a fantastic prospect, power, finesse and seems keen to go looking for work.

      Wiki says he was born in Auckland and is of Samoan and SA heritage.

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        Well that was ugly and I bet MacDonald was not very happy. Not sure about all the kicking when you have a 3 man advantage. Lacking a good hooker. Akira acquitted himself well tonight and I hope he is getting the message. His work rate was a lot higher. He is always impressive in tackling as is PT.

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          @nzzp said in Hurricanes v Blues:

          Also, Akira played really well. That try was superb, but he was strong all game. Godo coming back with no matches under his belt

          Unplayable at times. NZ's Billy Vunipola. Must be in the ABs squad.

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          @sparky He has to string a few games together to show consistency. Telea should have passed that ball to him. Sure it would have ended in a try.

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          • HoorooH Hooroo

            @jegga said in Hurricanes v Blues:

            @Hooroo said in Hurricanes v Blues:

            What was the red card for?

            Thalidomide tackle

            A what?

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            @Hooroo no arms

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                Listening in to Radio Sport this , heaps of blame being lumped on Fraser which is totally unfair, apart from several side entries from both teams that were missed and I put that down to the official having to look at so many other things, in the main, he was transparent and wether you like it or not re the cards , he was spot on..

                My personal take , the Blues defence in the first half especially was the catalyst for the victory , and once the visitors did get possession, it was the home sides discipline that let them down, end of story..I actually believe if the Canes had kept their discipline, they would have probably won this game going away, I have no doubt that while the Blues did not fully put the boot on the throat , I believe the travel factor had caught up with them in the last 15 minutes...it’s a bloody good feeling to wake up this morning knowing the team you support is finally starting show what they are capable of and the positions that have been contentious, 9,10 and 15 are starting look a little more stable .not perfect by any stretch, but on the improve ..
                Que Chris Rattue to be in love with the Blues again

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                    Great coaching.

                    @Steven-Harris I thought the defensive pattern and alignment from the Blues in the first half was very good. Other than that very early Lam try, they were well organised. Not sure if that’s because the 9-10 combo are better communicators, but it was good.

                    Blues still a little stunted in attack though, but I think that will come as they build confidence from their defensive efforts.

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                    • broughieB broughie

                      Well that was ugly and I bet MacDonald was not very happy. Not sure about all the kicking when you have a 3 man advantage. Lacking a good hooker. Akira acquitted himself well tonight and I hope he is getting the message. His work rate was a lot higher. He is always impressive in tackling as is PT.

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                      @broughie said in Hurricanes v Blues:

                      Well that was ugly and I bet MacDonald was not very happy. Not sure about all the kicking when you have a 3 man advantage. Lacking a good hooker. Akira acquitted himself well tonight and I hope he is getting the message. His work rate was a lot higher. He is always impressive in tackling as is PT.

                      Their ability to think how to take advantage of the numbers was terrible. Kicking the ball away from where the advantage was all the time instead of just pressuring the breakdown over and over until gaps appeared.

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                      • CrucialC Crucial

                        @broughie said in Hurricanes v Blues:

                        Well that was ugly and I bet MacDonald was not very happy. Not sure about all the kicking when you have a 3 man advantage. Lacking a good hooker. Akira acquitted himself well tonight and I hope he is getting the message. His work rate was a lot higher. He is always impressive in tackling as is PT.

                        Their ability to think how to take advantage of the numbers was terrible. Kicking the ball away from where the advantage was all the time instead of just pressuring the breakdown over and over until gaps appeared.

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                        @Crucial Exactly. You almost thought they were trying to intentionally throw the game away instead of adding points.

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                          I didn't mind the kicking. The breakdown was a lottery with that ref. Holding the ball was a reasonable chance of a penalty to the defence.
                          The Canes were struggling to get the ball through the midfield so tackling was easy

                          The quality of the kicking could have been better though

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                            I didn't mind the kicking. The breakdown was a lottery with that ref. Holding the ball was a reasonable chance of a penalty to the defence.
                            The Canes were struggling to get the ball through the midfield so tackling was easy

                            The quality of the kicking could have been better though

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                            @Duluth said in Hurricanes v Blues:

                            I didn't mind the kicking. The breakdown was a lottery with that ref. Holding the ball was a reasonable chance of a penalty to the defence.
                            The Canes were struggling to get the ball through the midfield so tackling was easy

                            The quality of the kicking could have been better though

                            Are you sure that the best way to take advantage of having three more players is to kick the ball away?
                            Surely holding onto the ball and playing with it ups yours odds considerably?

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                              @Crucial Exactly. You almost thought they were trying to intentionally throw the game away instead of adding points.

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                              @broughie I'd say it was lack of cool heads, making good decisions, Blues were in a position to beat a NZ team, something they hadnt done for a long time, i expect that carries some mental baggage.

                              That is where Parsons should be earning his coin.

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                                @broughie I'd say it was lack of cool heads, making good decisions, Blues were in a position to beat a NZ team, something they hadnt done for a long time, i expect that carries some mental baggage.

                                That is where Parsons should be earning his coin.

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                                @taniwharugby might be right on the mental mind fuck of not beating a NZ team but 12 men?

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                                • CrucialC Crucial

                                  @Duluth said in Hurricanes v Blues:

                                  I didn't mind the kicking. The breakdown was a lottery with that ref. Holding the ball was a reasonable chance of a penalty to the defence.
                                  The Canes were struggling to get the ball through the midfield so tackling was easy

                                  The quality of the kicking could have been better though

                                  Are you sure that the best way to take advantage of having three more players is to kick the ball away?
                                  Surely holding onto the ball and playing with it ups yours odds considerably?

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                                  @Crucial said in Hurricanes v Blues:

                                  Are you sure that the best way to take advantage of having three more players is to kick the ball away?
                                  Surely holding onto the ball and playing with it ups yours odds considerably?

                                  It was very conservative. Yes holding the ball would have been the best way to take advantage.

                                  However the Canes had the rub of the green at the breakdown all night. The best chance the Canes had of getting back into was penalties giving them easy field position

                                  They had zero chance of scoring 80m tries with how their attack was going

                                  It was about the best way of not losing. Not the best way of (maybe) racking up points

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                                  • broughieB broughie

                                    @taniwharugby might be right on the mental mind fuck of not beating a NZ team but 12 men?

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                                    @broughie that probably presents another issue in your mind in that you MUST take advantage of it...I very much doubt you do much practice of 15 v 12...Hansen said they had planned in the RWC for losing a player, I expect that would be offensively and defensively, but having such a massive advantage would be interesting problem to have too.

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                                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                      @broughie that probably presents another issue in your mind in that you MUST take advantage of it...I very much doubt you do much practice of 15 v 12...Hansen said they had planned in the RWC for losing a player, I expect that would be offensively and defensively, but having such a massive advantage would be interesting problem to have too.

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                                      @taniwharugby true. How about the KISS principle and just pound it in the forwards. Any way you slice it it did not reek of confidence.

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                                      • broughieB broughie

                                        @taniwharugby true. How about the KISS principle and just pound it in the forwards. Any way you slice it it did not reek of confidence.

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                                        @broughie again, cool heads and good decisions?

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                                        • broughieB broughie

                                          @taniwharugby true. How about the KISS principle and just pound it in the forwards. Any way you slice it it did not reek of confidence.

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                                          @broughie of course you have to have a good halfback who can read the game and organize this. The blues are lacking in that area as well.

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