England v Wales
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@MiketheSnow haaaa brilliant.
How dare he make light of such a serious situation though!
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Was up at Twickenham for the game but had unfortunate seats (and a lot of beer) and really couldn’t follow the game very well. Was interested to hear the views here before watching the recorded match. Thoughts:-
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Farrell is intrinsic to much of what England do, but he behaves like a cock far too often. He really needs to rein it in.
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High and no arms tackles. Numerous instances from both sides. No issue with the red card, poor technique and a falling George North but no arms so recklessness was there. I thought the clothes line on Young’s in the build up to Daly’s try was worse, although not so dangerous. I felt the dangerous tackle issue was not handled well at all.
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Marler’s cock tickle. Stupid, no place for it but let’s not pretend anyone’s life was in danger.
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Gareth Thomas. Funny as fuck.
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@Catogrande said in England v Wales:
- High and no arms tackles. Numerous instances from both sides. No issue with the red card, poor technique and a falling George North but no arms so recklessness was there. I thought the clothes line on Young’s in the build up to Daly’s try was worse, although not so dangerous. I felt the dangerous tackle issue was not handled well at all.
Just watched the Tuilagi tackle. Red all day - flew in, no arms, and first contact is to the head. Eddie Jones has gone off the deep end, but he's dead set wrong.
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@nzzp said in England v Wales:
@Catogrande said in England v Wales:
- High and no arms tackles. Numerous instances from both sides. No issue with the red card, poor technique and a falling George North but no arms so recklessness was there. I thought the clothes line on Young’s in the build up to Daly’s try was worse, although not so dangerous. I felt the dangerous tackle issue was not handled well at all.
Just watched the Tuilagi tackle. Red all day - flew in, no arms, and first contact is to the head. Eddie Jones has gone off the deep end, but he's dead set wrong.
Yeah, no issue with it really, if North hadn’t have been tackled and was falling it was still a no arms tackle. The falling and consequent head contact made it a red. That bit was unfortunate. Nice touch between the two of them afterwards, Tuilagi obviously knew he’d fucked up and accepted it. North’s response was spot on too.
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@Catogrande said in England v Wales:
Yeah, no issue with it really, if North hadn’t have been tackled and was falling it was still a no arms tackle. The falling and consequent head contact made it a red. That bit was unfortunate. Nice touch between the two of them afterwards, Tuilagi obviously knew he’d fucked up and accepted it. North’s response was spot on too.
yep, but from a bloke with a history of concussion (and Wales putting him back out when he's been concussed) it's not what ya want to see
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@nzzp said in England v Wales:
@Catogrande said in England v Wales:
Yeah, no issue with it really, if North hadn’t have been tackled and was falling it was still a no arms tackle. The falling and consequent head contact made it a red. That bit was unfortunate. Nice touch between the two of them afterwards, Tuilagi obviously knew he’d fucked up and accepted it. North’s response was spot on too.
yep, but from a bloke with a history of concussion (and Wales putting him back out when he's been concussed) it's not what ya want to see
Yeah, it does seem that Wales keep picking him when Common sense would suggest otherwise but you’d have to think they follow protocols.
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@Catogrande said in England v Wales:
@nzzp said in England v Wales:
@Catogrande said in England v Wales:
Yeah, no issue with it really, if North hadn’t have been tackled and was falling it was still a no arms tackle. The falling and consequent head contact made it a red. That bit was unfortunate. Nice touch between the two of them afterwards, Tuilagi obviously knew he’d fucked up and accepted it. North’s response was spot on too.
yep, but from a bloke with a history of concussion (and Wales putting him back out when he's been concussed) it's not what ya want to see
Yeah, it does seem that Wales keep picking him when Common sense would suggest otherwise but you’d have to think they follow protocols.
was thinking of this to be fair
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@Crucial said in England v Wales:
Always illegal was the term used in the Canes/Blues game as well.
Seems fair. If going into contact illegally you can’t cry “but he ducked”Yep, and it makes it clear for the fans. It's better when you can look at a replay and predict what the ruling will be.
I think in past years it's been more of a lottery.
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@nzzp said in England v Wales:
@Catogrande said in England v Wales:
- High and no arms tackles. Numerous instances from both sides. No issue with the red card, poor technique and a falling George North but no arms so recklessness was there. I thought the clothes line on Young’s in the build up to Daly’s try was worse, although not so dangerous. I felt the dangerous tackle issue was not handled well at all.
Just watched the Tuilagi tackle. Red all day - flew in, no arms, and first contact is to the head. Eddie Jones has gone off the deep end, but he's dead set wrong.
Yeah - that's not a surprising red, so the question is - What's Eddie's game?
I reckon it's a bit of referee intimidation. Next time a ref's got a close penalty/yellow/red decision to make, he might think, "Eddie's going to have a crack at me" and so give a bit of benefit of the doubt.
Maybe Eddie should get a week in the bin!
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WR (or is it 6N?) don’t do themselves any favours when it comes to public perception do they?
A whole day to address the question of Marlers actions and nothing forthcoming.
I get that it was a Sunday but that shouldn’t play any part when there are citing deadlines.
They should have front-footed this even if it was just to say that the citing officials will be looking at it and have until x to report back.
Instead they let the media run with allsorts.
I don’t know many jobs where doing what he did wouldn’t result in severe disciplinary action. To act like “it’s part of the game” does rugby a disservice. It may be part of the public schoolboy culture that still hangs around the sport in England but that’s all the more reason to act -
@Crucial said in England v Wales:
I don’t know many jobs where doing what he did wouldn’t result in severe disciplinary action
dude
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@mariner4life said in England v Wales:
@Crucial said in England v Wales:
I don’t know many jobs where doing what he did wouldn’t result in severe disciplinary action
dude
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That’s gone straight past me -
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@Crucial said in England v Wales:
@mariner4life said in England v Wales:
@Crucial said in England v Wales:
I don’t know many jobs where doing what he did wouldn’t result in severe disciplinary action
dude
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That’s gone straight past methe whole "in any other workplace" thing when discussing a game of rugby
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@mariner4life said in England v Wales:
@Crucial said in England v Wales:
@mariner4life said in England v Wales:
@Crucial said in England v Wales:
I don’t know many jobs where doing what he did wouldn’t result in severe disciplinary action
dude
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That’s gone straight past methe whole "in any other workplace" thing when discussing a game of rugby
I’m talking about public perception. It’s all very well for rugby fans to brush it aside as part of the game but it doesn’t reflect well on a sport I love.
I do get that things can be a bit different when on a sports field such as copping a punch that doesn’t result in an assault charge but that is also precisely why the punishment for assault on field is dealt with in a stronger way than it used to.
I m not precious about what happened just saying that WR has allowed all and sundry to think that they don’t care much if someone grabs someone else’s cock during a game. That cat is now out of the bag and any actions now will look reactionary -
