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Crusaders v Blues

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    Chris
    wrote on last edited by Chris
    #379

    I am not sure what to make of our depth at the moment.
    Blues Developing well
    Crusaders. Still winning but weaker than previous years
    Highlander performing above their weight
    Canes weaker than previous years
    Chiefs very poor at the moment

    Add all that up we are not that strong overall,
    Still we will Put out a strong 23 in the black jersey but injuries will Hurt us.

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    • ChrisC Chris

      I am not sure what to make of our depth at the moment.
      Blues Developing well
      Crusaders. Still winning but weaker than previous years
      Highlander performing above their weight
      Canes weaker than previous years
      Chiefs very poor at the moment

      Add all that up we are not that strong overall,
      Still we will Put out a strong 23 in the black jersey but injuries will Hurt us.

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      Gunner
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      #380

      @Chris said in Crusaders v Blues:

      I am not sure what to make of our depth at the moment.
      Blues Developing well
      Crusaders. Still winning but weaker than previous years
      Highlander performing above their weight
      Canes weaker than previous years
      Chiefs very poor at the moment

      Add all that up we are not that strong overall,
      Still we will Put out a strong 23 in the black jersey but injuries will Hurt us.

      Form of super teams after 4 games is hardly a gauge on All Black depth.

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      • boobooB booboo

        @Bones said in Crusaders v Blues:

        @booboo said in Crusaders v Blues:

        Ok sort of game so fat

        Oh here come the Akira haters again 🙄

        Que?

        Am Akira fanboi

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        #381

        @booboo said in Crusaders v Blues:

        @Bones said in Crusaders v Blues:

        @booboo said in Crusaders v Blues:

        Ok sort of game so fat

        Oh here come the Akira haters again 🙄

        Que?

        Am Akira fanboi

        So fat indeed.

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        • G Gunner

          @Chris said in Crusaders v Blues:

          I am not sure what to make of our depth at the moment.
          Blues Developing well
          Crusaders. Still winning but weaker than previous years
          Highlander performing above their weight
          Canes weaker than previous years
          Chiefs very poor at the moment

          Add all that up we are not that strong overall,
          Still we will Put out a strong 23 in the black jersey but injuries will Hurt us.

          Form of super teams after 4 games is hardly a gauge on All Black depth.

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          Chris
          wrote on last edited by Chris
          #382

          @Gunner said in Crusaders v Blues:

          @Chris said in Crusaders v Blues:

          I am not sure what to make of our depth at the moment.
          Blues Developing well
          Crusaders. Still winning but weaker than previous years
          Highlander performing above their weight
          Canes weaker than previous years
          Chiefs very poor at the moment

          Add all that up we are not that strong overall,
          Still we will Put out a strong 23 in the black jersey but injuries will Hurt us.

          Form of super teams after 4 games is hardly a gauge on All Black depth.

          I know but I am looking at overall depth in our SR teams it’s weakening

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          • sparkyS Offline
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            sparky
            wrote on last edited by sparky
            #383

            Huge, huge, huge last 20 minutes from the Crusaders to secure their 36th win at home in a row. Mo'unga and Drummond were brilliant in the last quarter. Sam Whitelock's workrate is immense. Bridge was excellent in the air. Razor has developed a wonderful team spirit at the franchise. Only a matter of time until he's given the reins of a Test team.

            Lots of learnings for the Blues:

            Beauden Barrett should be at 10 or the bench. His signing looks stranger and stranger, if Rangi isn't going to trust him to lead the backline as he did at the Canes.

            The Blues celebrated Reiko Ioane's try like they'd won the World Cup. I never like that. Put the ball down. Jog back. Same as Pinetree, JK or Jonah did. The postman doesn't celebrate delivering a letter. Save the high fives for being the team with the most points at the final whistle. The Blues' premature jubilation invited a response and boy did it come.

            Mark Telea needs to work on his high ball work.

            Not convinced by the Blues' half backs.

            Title not over, but it's Advantage Crusaders.

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              #384

              Struggling to understand a lot of the rulings at the breakdown and why moody not carded. Crusaders too clinical in the end.

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              • A ARHS

                Struggling to understand a lot of the rulings at the breakdown and why moody not carded. Crusaders too clinical in the end.

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                @ARHS said in Crusaders v Blues:

                Struggling to understand a lot of the rulings at the breakdown and why moody not carded. Crusaders too clinical in the end.

                I have doubts the try by Ioane should have been scored,
                You could say Talea knocked it on in the air, then Plummer knocked it over the try line .
                Or the Crusaders should have got the penalty from the scrum as they were the dominant scrum

                Some real doubt in my mind it was a try because of the lead up to it.
                So it’s all a matter of perspective and who you support.

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                • ChrisC Chris

                  @ARHS said in Crusaders v Blues:

                  Struggling to understand a lot of the rulings at the breakdown and why moody not carded. Crusaders too clinical in the end.

                  I have doubts the try by Ioane should have been scored,
                  You could say Talea knocked it on in the air, then Plummer knocked it over the try line .
                  Or the Crusaders should have got the penalty from the scrum as they were the dominant scrum

                  Some real doubt in my mind it was a try because of the lead up to it.
                  So it’s all a matter of perspective and who you support.

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                  Old Samurai Jack
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                  #386

                  @Chris Yeah, that period of play was baffling to say the least. Not the refs fault, he was was let down by his officials.

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                  • ChrisC Chris

                    @ARHS said in Crusaders v Blues:

                    Struggling to understand a lot of the rulings at the breakdown and why moody not carded. Crusaders too clinical in the end.

                    I have doubts the try by Ioane should have been scored,
                    You could say Talea knocked it on in the air, then Plummer knocked it over the try line .
                    Or the Crusaders should have got the penalty from the scrum as they were the dominant scrum

                    Some real doubt in my mind it was a try because of the lead up to it.
                    So it’s all a matter of perspective and who you support.

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                    Bones
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                    #387

                    @Chris knock ons get missed, sure. But you can't quibble with not back off a quick tap 5m out results in a PT and a yellow card.

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      @Chris knock ons get missed, sure. But you can't quibble with not back off a quick tap 5m out results in a PT and a yellow card.

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                      @Bones said in Crusaders v Blues:

                      @Chris knock ons get missed, sure. But you can't quibble with not back off a quick tap 5m out results in a PT and a yellow card.

                      May not have been an issue if the other things were picked up, so it’s whichever way you look at it .
                      A counter argument to a yellow card theory that may not have been in play if the officials had done their job better not one knock but 2.

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                      • ChrisC Chris

                        @Bones said in Crusaders v Blues:

                        @Chris knock ons get missed, sure. But you can't quibble with not back off a quick tap 5m out results in a PT and a yellow card.

                        May not have been an issue if the other things were picked up, so it’s whichever way you look at it .
                        A counter argument to a yellow card theory that may not have been in play if the officials had done their job better not one knock but 2.

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                        Bones
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #389

                        @Chris said in Crusaders v Blues:

                        @Bones said in Crusaders v Blues:

                        @Chris knock ons get missed, sure. But you can't quibble with not back off a quick tap 5m out results in a PT and a yellow card.

                        May not have been an issue if the other things were picked up, so it’s whichever way you look at it .
                        A counter argument to a yellow card theory that may not have been in play if the officials had done their job better not one knock but 2.

                        That's a pretty poor argument for not following regular protocol.

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                        • BonesB Bones

                          @Chris said in Crusaders v Blues:

                          @Bones said in Crusaders v Blues:

                          @Chris knock ons get missed, sure. But you can't quibble with not back off a quick tap 5m out results in a PT and a yellow card.

                          May not have been an issue if the other things were picked up, so it’s whichever way you look at it .
                          A counter argument to a yellow card theory that may not have been in play if the officials had done their job better not one knock but 2.

                          That's a pretty poor argument for not following regular protocol.

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                          Chris
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #390

                          @Bones said in Crusaders v Blues:

                          @Chris said in Crusaders v Blues:

                          @Bones said in Crusaders v Blues:

                          @Chris knock ons get missed, sure. But you can't quibble with not back off a quick tap 5m out results in a PT and a yellow card.

                          May not have been an issue if the other things were picked up, so it’s whichever way you look at it .
                          A counter argument to a yellow card theory that may not have been in play if the officials had done their job better not one knock but 2.

                          That's a pretty poor argument for not following regular protocol.

                          Exactly do your job officials don’t let 2 knock ons go that lead to a try.
                          still would not have mattered the Crusaders were too good when it mattered in fact that try sparked the Crusaders to take control and take the game away from the Blues.

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                          • ChrisC Chris

                            @Bones said in Crusaders v Blues:

                            @Chris said in Crusaders v Blues:

                            @Bones said in Crusaders v Blues:

                            @Chris knock ons get missed, sure. But you can't quibble with not back off a quick tap 5m out results in a PT and a yellow card.

                            May not have been an issue if the other things were picked up, so it’s whichever way you look at it .
                            A counter argument to a yellow card theory that may not have been in play if the officials had done their job better not one knock but 2.

                            That's a pretty poor argument for not following regular protocol.

                            Exactly do your job officials don’t let 2 knock ons go that lead to a try.
                            still would not have mattered the Crusaders were too good when it mattered in fact that try sparked the Crusaders to take control and take the game away from the Blues.

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                            Bones
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                            #391

                            @Chris yeah true being an extra two points and a man down has never effected a team before eh.

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                            • ChrisC Chris

                              @ARHS said in Crusaders v Blues:

                              Struggling to understand a lot of the rulings at the breakdown and why moody not carded. Crusaders too clinical in the end.

                              I have doubts the try by Ioane should have been scored,
                              You could say Talea knocked it on in the air, then Plummer knocked it over the try line .
                              Or the Crusaders should have got the penalty from the scrum as they were the dominant scrum

                              Some real doubt in my mind it was a try because of the lead up to it.
                              So it’s all a matter of perspective and who you support.

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                              Bovidae
                              wrote on last edited by
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                              @Chris To me it looked like Havili knocked the ball on first, and the ball was then propelled forward off Telea's head. So scrum to the Blues on that spot would have been the correct call.

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                              • ChrisC Chris

                                @ARHS said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                Struggling to understand a lot of the rulings at the breakdown and why moody not carded. Crusaders too clinical in the end.

                                I have doubts the try by Ioane should have been scored,
                                You could say Talea knocked it on in the air, then Plummer knocked it over the try line .
                                Or the Crusaders should have got the penalty from the scrum as they were the dominant scrum

                                Some real doubt in my mind it was a try because of the lead up to it.
                                So it’s all a matter of perspective and who you support.

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                                antipodean
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                                @Chris said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                @ARHS said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                Struggling to understand a lot of the rulings at the breakdown and why moody not carded. Crusaders too clinical in the end.

                                I have doubts the try by Ioane should have been scored,
                                You could say Talea knocked it on in the air, then Plummer knocked it over the try line .
                                Or the Crusaders should have got the penalty from the scrum as they were the dominant scrum

                                I was with you until you said the Crusaders had the dominant scrum.

                                Some real doubt in my mind it was a try because of the lead up to it.
                                So it’s all a matter of perspective and who you support.

                                I felt the Blues got the rub on a couple of contentious knock-on calls (or non-calls) and the Crusaders benefitted from sympathetic interpretations of the offside line and ruck calls.

                                Biggest differences were the Crusaders won the kicking contest and didn't switch off.

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  @Chris yeah true being an extra two points and a man down has never effected a team before eh.

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                                  @Bones said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                  @Chris yeah true being an extra two points and a man down has never effected a team before eh.

                                  Not us mate you are correct there

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    @Chris To me it looked like Havili knocked the ball on first, and the ball was then propelled forward off Telea's head. So scrum to the Blues on that spot would have been the correct call.

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                                    Chris
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #395

                                    @Bovidae said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                    @Chris To me it looked like Havili knocked the ball on first, and the ball was then propelled forward off Telea's head. So scrum to the Blues on that spot would have been the correct call.

                                    Ok then Plummer knocked it on and over the crusaders line scrum to the Crusaders

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                                      Siam
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                                      #396

                                      The camera view from between the posts clearly showed Plummer knocking on, his second touch in that movement.

                                      That the refs got distracted by Telea's falcon was pretty piss poor. The camera footage was clear

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        @booboo said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                        @Bones said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                        @booboo said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                        Ok sort of game so fat

                                        Oh here come the Akira haters again 🙄

                                        Que?

                                        Am Akira fanboi

                                        So fat indeed.

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                                        @Bones said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                        @booboo said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                        @Bones said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                        @booboo said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                        Ok sort of game so fat

                                        Oh here come the Akira haters again 🙄

                                        Que?

                                        Am Akira fanboi

                                        So fat indeed.

                                        Ash.. missed the auto correct.

                                        D'oh

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                                        • SiamS Siam

                                          @booboo said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                          @Bones said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                          @booboo said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                          Ok sort of game so fat

                                          Oh here come the Akira haters again 🙄

                                          Que?

                                          Am Akira fanboi

                                          You had too much or you need more red mate?
                                          Bones has captured your penchant for grammatical pedantry perfectly😁

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                                          booboo
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                                          #398

                                          @Siam said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                          @booboo said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                          @Bones said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                          @booboo said in Crusaders v Blues:

                                          Ok sort of game so fat

                                          Oh here come the Akira haters again 🙄

                                          Que?

                                          Am Akira fanboi

                                          You had too much or you need more red mate?
                                          Bones has captured your penchant for grammatical pedantry perfectly😁

                                          Auto
                                          Correct

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