Blues v Crusaders
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@Bovidae Havili has hardly played at 10 for the Crusaders (only one start, ever). If he'd play more games in that position, I've no doubt he'd get better and more than adequate. His first half against the Chiefs was excellent; his second half was okay.
Cameron just doesn't have the talent. For the next few years, the Crusaders have to hope that Burke develops in a good 10 and that Campbell Parata is a super talent.
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@Stargazer Hence, my genuine question if Mo'unga doesn't play.
@Bovidae Yeah, if Havili was fit, it would be okay, but with only Cameron and Burke available to replace RM, that's a problem. I guess it depends on whether baby Mo'unga is keen to arrive on time or is staying put for a few more days. If the latter, I'd expect Richie to wear the 10 jersey. But it's a dead rubber, so not that urgent.
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@pakman said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Toddy said in Blues v Crusaders:
@pakman If the Blues lose it'll be a choke of epic proportions. They're playing at home, have the best loosies in the comp, two time worlds greatest player and playing against a team who has already won the competition.
The only thing stopping the Blues will be if the ref is biased. This has been a huge problem for them since about the start of 2004 super rugby season.
It would be a choke! Saders pack has only two AB quality players (three if Joe M makes it back). Loosies distinctly mediocre. Half backs meh, and whilst a high quality backline, only Ritchie and Sevu have X-factor.
If Blues get their big boys running at Saders they will punch holes. Sure Leon will have clocked how the Clan's offloading defused Chch D.
And Blues backs off front foot ball will be a handful.
I could see us giving Saturday's 23 a ten point beating.
If a B side then I hope they take offense and put 20 on them, which will be a nice feeling to go into the NPC with.
:fishing_pole:
@Stargazer said in Blues v Crusaders:
@pakman said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Toddy said in Blues v Crusaders:
@pakman If the Blues lose it'll be a choke of epic proportions. They're playing at home, have the best loosies in the comp, two time worlds greatest player and playing against a team who has already won the competition.
The only thing stopping the Blues will be if the ref is biased. This has been a huge problem for them since about the start of 2004 super rugby season.
It would be a choke! Saders pack has only two AB quality players (three if Joe M makes it back). Loosies distinctly mediocre. Half backs meh, and whilst a high quality backline, only Ritchie and Sevu have X-factor.
If Blues get their big boys running at Saders they will punch holes. Sure Leon will have clocked how the Clan's offloading defused Chch D.
And Blues backs off front foot ball will be a handful.
I could see us giving Saturday's 23 a ten point beating.
If a B side then I hope they take offense and put 20 on them, which will be a nice feeling to go into the NPC with.
:fishing_pole:
I know. But isn't that the whole point of the Fern?!
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@pakman said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:
@KiwiMurph said in Blues v Crusaders:
@pakman how does Jordan not have x factor?
Honestly, he's the most unconvincing game breaker to watch. Seems to just plod along and absolutely smokes people left, right and centre. It's so weird.
:fishing_pole:
Not fishing at all. He's ace - but just never looks like he's going to do anything.
@Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:
@pakman said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:
@KiwiMurph said in Blues v Crusaders:
@pakman how does Jordan not have x factor?
Honestly, he's the most unconvincing game breaker to watch. Seems to just plod along and absolutely smokes people left, right and centre. It's so weird.
:fishing_pole:
Not fishing at all. He's ace - but just never looks like he's going to do anything.
Like an invisibility cloak?
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@Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:
@pakman said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:
@KiwiMurph said in Blues v Crusaders:
@pakman how does Jordan not have x factor?
Honestly, he's the most unconvincing game breaker to watch. Seems to just plod along and absolutely smokes people left, right and centre. It's so weird.
:fishing_pole:
Not fishing at all. He's ace - but just never looks like he's going to do anything.
Like an invisibility cloak?
@pakman said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:
@pakman said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:
@KiwiMurph said in Blues v Crusaders:
@pakman how does Jordan not have x factor?
Honestly, he's the most unconvincing game breaker to watch. Seems to just plod along and absolutely smokes people left, right and centre. It's so weird.
:fishing_pole:
Not fishing at all. He's ace - but just never looks like he's going to do anything.
Like an invisibility cloak?
He appears like Michael Collins, yet tears it up like Cullen. I can't get my head around it.
Be deadly in his first year or two at international level.
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@pakman said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:
@pakman said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:
@KiwiMurph said in Blues v Crusaders:
@pakman how does Jordan not have x factor?
Honestly, he's the most unconvincing game breaker to watch. Seems to just plod along and absolutely smokes people left, right and centre. It's so weird.
:fishing_pole:
Not fishing at all. He's ace - but just never looks like he's going to do anything.
Like an invisibility cloak?
He appears like Michael Collins, yet tears it up like Cullen. I can't get my head around it.
Be deadly in his first year or two at international level.
@Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:
@pakman said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:
@pakman said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:
@KiwiMurph said in Blues v Crusaders:
@pakman how does Jordan not have x factor?
Honestly, he's the most unconvincing game breaker to watch. Seems to just plod along and absolutely smokes people left, right and centre. It's so weird.
:fishing_pole:
Not fishing at all. He's ace - but just never looks like he's going to do anything.
Like an invisibility cloak?
He appears like Michael Collins, yet tears it up like Cullen. I can't get my head around it.
Be deadly in his first year or two at international level.
Still skinny enough to squeeze through half gaps?
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@pakman said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:
@pakman said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:
@KiwiMurph said in Blues v Crusaders:
@pakman how does Jordan not have x factor?
Honestly, he's the most unconvincing game breaker to watch. Seems to just plod along and absolutely smokes people left, right and centre. It's so weird.
:fishing_pole:
Not fishing at all. He's ace - but just never looks like he's going to do anything.
Like an invisibility cloak?
He appears like Michael Collins, yet tears it up like Cullen. I can't get my head around it.
Be deadly in his first year or two at international level.
@Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:
@pakman said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:
@pakman said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:
@KiwiMurph said in Blues v Crusaders:
@pakman how does Jordan not have x factor?
Honestly, he's the most unconvincing game breaker to watch. Seems to just plod along and absolutely smokes people left, right and centre. It's so weird.
:fishing_pole:
Not fishing at all. He's ace - but just never looks like he's going to do anything.
Like an invisibility cloak?
He appears like Michael Collins, yet tears it up like Cullen. I can't get my head around it.
Be deadly in his first year or two at international level.
It's the magic of Ta$man!
They should put him in the lineout, but Shannon and PariPari are killing that!
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@Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:
@pakman said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:
@pakman said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:
@KiwiMurph said in Blues v Crusaders:
@pakman how does Jordan not have x factor?
Honestly, he's the most unconvincing game breaker to watch. Seems to just plod along and absolutely smokes people left, right and centre. It's so weird.
:fishing_pole:
Not fishing at all. He's ace - but just never looks like he's going to do anything.
Like an invisibility cloak?
He appears like Michael Collins, yet tears it up like Cullen. I can't get my head around it.
Be deadly in his first year or two at international level.
It's the magic of Ta$man!
They should put him in the lineout, but Shannon and PariPari are killing that!
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@Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Chris-B Mitch Brown one of the most dominant tacklers and most lineout takes.
Interesting that none of 'dominant' tacklers Saders?
@pakman said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Chris-B Mitch Brown one of the most dominant tacklers and most lineout takes.
Interesting that none of 'dominant' tacklers Saders?
Their loosies aren't all that great really - but then again probably also a reflection on the team. If you have a think about the absolute standouts, there's not a long list you'd write for the saders. Just everyone playing a part.
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Blues v Crusaders: Sunday 16 August, 3:35pm, Eden Park, Auckland
Referee: Ben O’Keeffe
Assistant Referee 1: Paul Williams
Assistant Referee 2: James Doleman
TMO: Mike Fraser
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Blues v Crusaders: Sunday 16 August, 3:35pm, Eden Park, Auckland
Referee: Ben O’Keeffe
Assistant Referee 1: Paul Williams
Assistant Referee 2: James Doleman
TMO: Mike Fraser
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@Chris said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Snowy said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Chris said in Blues v Crusaders:
Doesn't matter the Trophy is in Christchurch it doesn't really mean much to me as a crusaders fan it feels like the SR season is over.
Blues win good on them but the name on the trophy remains the same for the 11th title and 4 in a row.
So get your teeth into this post as I am sure some will love a bite.:fearful_face:
Gloating is just so unbecoming.
Could not help myself
Like Auckland supporters in the late 80s ... the run will never end
@nzzp said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Chris said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Snowy said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Chris said in Blues v Crusaders:
Doesn't matter the Trophy is in Christchurch it doesn't really mean much to me as a crusaders fan it feels like the SR season is over.
Blues win good on them but the name on the trophy remains the same for the 11th title and 4 in a row.
So get your teeth into this post as I am sure some will love a bite.:fearful_face:
Gloating is just so unbecoming.
Could not help myself
Like Auckland supporters in the late 80s ... the run will never end
It’s got to end sometime so I need to gloat now
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@Chris said in Blues v Crusaders:
Just what I heard
Mo’unga s wife is expecting their first baby this week and has played every minute except the last 4 min against the LandersWhen is the last time the Crusaders won without Mo'unga?
Havili and Cameron haven't been good enough in recent seasons.
@Bovidae said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Chris said in Blues v Crusaders:
Just what I heard
Mo’unga s wife is expecting their first baby this week and has played every minute except the last 4 min against the LandersWhen is the last time the Crusaders won without Mo'unga?
Havili and Cameron haven't been good enough in recent seasons.
I would hate to think it’s been awhile he is crucial for us
Cameron is just not up to it we need to develop someone else as back up. -
@Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:
@pakman said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:
@pakman said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:
@KiwiMurph said in Blues v Crusaders:
@pakman how does Jordan not have x factor?
Honestly, he's the most unconvincing game breaker to watch. Seems to just plod along and absolutely smokes people left, right and centre. It's so weird.
:fishing_pole:
Not fishing at all. He's ace - but just never looks like he's going to do anything.
Like an invisibility cloak?
He appears like Michael Collins, yet tears it up like Cullen. I can't get my head around it.
Be deadly in his first year or two at international level.
It's the magic of Ta$man!
They should put him in the lineout, but Shannon and PariPari are killing that!
@Chris-B said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:
@pakman said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:
@pakman said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:
@KiwiMurph said in Blues v Crusaders:
@pakman how does Jordan not have x factor?
Honestly, he's the most unconvincing game breaker to watch. Seems to just plod along and absolutely smokes people left, right and centre. It's so weird.
:fishing_pole:
Not fishing at all. He's ace - but just never looks like he's going to do anything.
Like an invisibility cloak?
He appears like Michael Collins, yet tears it up like Cullen. I can't get my head around it.
Be deadly in his first year or two at international level.
It's the magic of Ta$man!
They should put him in the lineout, but Shannon and PariPari are killing that!
Ha nice website
"I got ninety nine runs, but a try not one"
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@Bovidae said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Chris said in Blues v Crusaders:
Just what I heard
Mo’unga s wife is expecting their first baby this week and has played every minute except the last 4 min against the LandersWhen is the last time the Crusaders won without Mo'unga?
Havili and Cameron haven't been good enough in recent seasons.
I would hate to think it’s been awhile he is crucial for us
Cameron is just not up to it we need to develop someone else as back up.@Chris said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Bovidae said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Chris said in Blues v Crusaders:
Just what I heard
Mo’unga s wife is expecting their first baby this week and has played every minute except the last 4 min against the LandersWhen is the last time the Crusaders won without Mo'unga?
Havili and Cameron haven't been good enough in recent seasons.
I would hate to think it’s been awhile he is crucial for us
Cameron is just not up to it we need to develop someone else as back up.I think of razors 7 losses, 4 have been with mo'unga out.
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Dead rubber games have a history of the fans getting all excited but the winning players simply not having enough motivation compared to the other team whose fans pretend there's actually something on the line. There isn't.
Thinking of Waugh's Aussie cricket team, 3rd and 4th play-offs, Liverpool this season etc.
So Blues off a bye and at home should win and then their fans will have 9 months of talking up a team that yet again have won fuck all
Hope they have a final next year, not to determine the best teamm but just to give landers fans another game to watch
@Siam said in Blues v Crusaders:
Dead rubber games have a history of the fans getting all excited but the winning players simply not having enough motivation compared to the other team whose fans pretend there's actually something on the line. There isn't.
Thinking of Waugh's Aussie cricket team, 3rd and 4th play-offs, Liverpool this season etc.
So Blues off a bye and at home should win and then their fans will have 9 months of talking up a team that yet again have won fuck all
Hope they have a final next year, not to determine the best teamm but just to give landers fans another game to watch
Shhhh dont fucken spoil it
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@Chris-B said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:
@pakman said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:
@pakman said in Blues v Crusaders:
@Bones said in Blues v Crusaders:
@KiwiMurph said in Blues v Crusaders:
@pakman how does Jordan not have x factor?
Honestly, he's the most unconvincing game breaker to watch. Seems to just plod along and absolutely smokes people left, right and centre. It's so weird.
:fishing_pole:
Not fishing at all. He's ace - but just never looks like he's going to do anything.
Like an invisibility cloak?
He appears like Michael Collins, yet tears it up like Cullen. I can't get my head around it.
Be deadly in his first year or two at international level.
It's the magic of Ta$man!
They should put him in the lineout, but Shannon and PariPari are killing that!
Ha nice website
"I got ninety nine runs, but a try not one"
@Machpants said in Blues v Crusaders:
"I got ninety nine runs, but a try not one"
Do widths count? I thought you were supposed to lengthwise?
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Dead rubber games have a history of the fans getting all excited but the winning players simply not having enough motivation compared to the other team whose fans pretend there's actually something on the line. There isn't.
Thinking of Waugh's Aussie cricket team, 3rd and 4th play-offs, Liverpool this season etc.
So Blues off a bye and at home should win and then their fans will have 9 months of talking up a team that yet again have won fuck all
Hope they have a final next year, not to determine the best teamm but just to give landers fans another game to watch
