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North vs South

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    @Bovidae the Jordie at fullback discussion is an interesting one. I think there is a very real chance in an AB setting that Jordie plays wing because he’s in good form has the roving, kicking, high ball and chase game. But more pragmatically I think they will want to try the Mo’unga and Beaudie 10/15 again.

    If Beaudie starts at 10 then Jordie starts at fullback. Will Jordan fights it out with the other wingers.

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    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

      @Bovidae the Jordie at fullback discussion is an interesting one. I think there is a very real chance in an AB setting that Jordie plays wing because he’s in good form has the roving, kicking, high ball and chase game. But more pragmatically I think they will want to try the Mo’unga and Beaudie 10/15 again.

      If Beaudie starts at 10 then Jordie starts at fullback. Will Jordan fights it out with the other wingers.

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      @ACT-Crusader does Beauden deserve the 15 jersey on anything except reputation?

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      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

        @Bovidae the Jordie at fullback discussion is an interesting one. I think there is a very real chance in an AB setting that Jordie plays wing because he’s in good form has the roving, kicking, high ball and chase game. But more pragmatically I think they will want to try the Mo’unga and Beaudie 10/15 again.

        If Beaudie starts at 10 then Jordie starts at fullback. Will Jordan fights it out with the other wingers.

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        @ACT-Crusader Jordie at wing also brings his strong defence into play more.

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        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

          @ACT-Crusader does Beauden deserve the 15 jersey on anything except reputation?

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          @mariner4life said in North vs South:

          @ACT-Crusader does Beauden deserve the 15 jersey on anything except reputation?

          Many an AB has made a lineup when out of form and seemingly based on reputation

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            Hard to see them dropping Beaudie , the old its harder to get out than get in cliche

            But we could end up with an interesting scenario not too far off ,if not already, with Mounga , Jordie and Jorden improving at the rate that they are .

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            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

              @mariner4life said in North vs South:

              @ACT-Crusader does Beauden deserve the 15 jersey on anything except reputation?

              Many an AB has made a lineup when out of form and seemingly based on reputation

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              @ACT-Crusader said in North vs South:

              @mariner4life said in North vs South:

              @ACT-Crusader does Beauden deserve the 15 jersey on anything except reputation?

              Many an AB has made a lineup when out of form and seemingly based on reputation

              would anyone else be keen to see selection purely on form? might see a couple of randoms get the nod

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                @Bones I can't be Mauger because I actually selected Walden.:grinning_face:

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                • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                  Hard to see them dropping Beaudie , the old its harder to get out than get in cliche

                  But we could end up with an interesting scenario not too far off ,if not already, with Mounga , Jordie and Jorden improving at the rate that they are .

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                  @kiwiinmelb said in North vs South:

                  Hard to see them dropping Beaudie , the old its harder to get out than get in cliche

                  But we could end up with an interesting scenario not too far off ,if not already, with Mounga , Jordie and Jorden improving at the rate that they are .

                  They dropped Cully back in the day. Anything is possible.

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                  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                    @ACT-Crusader said in North vs South:

                    @mariner4life said in North vs South:

                    @ACT-Crusader does Beauden deserve the 15 jersey on anything except reputation?

                    Many an AB has made a lineup when out of form and seemingly based on reputation

                    would anyone else be keen to see selection purely on form? might see a couple of randoms get the nod

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                    @Kiwiwomble said in North vs South:

                    @ACT-Crusader said in North vs South:

                    @mariner4life said in North vs South:

                    @ACT-Crusader does Beauden deserve the 15 jersey on anything except reputation?

                    Many an AB has made a lineup when out of form and seemingly based on reputation

                    would anyone else be keen to see selection purely on form? might see a couple of randoms get the nod

                    There is a balancing act , you need to be careful you dont throw all of your big match experience out with the bathwater ,

                    I can remember calls to drop Nonu for example based on super rugby form .

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                    • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                      @Kiwiwomble said in North vs South:

                      @ACT-Crusader said in North vs South:

                      @mariner4life said in North vs South:

                      @ACT-Crusader does Beauden deserve the 15 jersey on anything except reputation?

                      Many an AB has made a lineup when out of form and seemingly based on reputation

                      would anyone else be keen to see selection purely on form? might see a couple of randoms get the nod

                      There is a balancing act , you need to be careful you dont throw all of your big match experience out with the bathwater ,

                      I can remember calls to drop Nonu for example based on super rugby form .

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                      @kiwiinmelb I only mean this game, its a spectacle to start with

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                      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                        @Bovidae the Jordie at fullback discussion is an interesting one. I think there is a very real chance in an AB setting that Jordie plays wing because he’s in good form has the roving, kicking, high ball and chase game. But more pragmatically I think they will want to try the Mo’unga and Beaudie 10/15 again.

                        If Beaudie starts at 10 then Jordie starts at fullback. Will Jordan fights it out with the other wingers.

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                        @ACT-Crusader

                        I was only talking about JB playing at fullback in the NI vs SI game. I'm not a fan of JB on the wing for the ABs myself.

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                        • sparkyS sparky

                          If the Auckland lockdown continues could this game shift to Wellington or the Tron?

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                          @sparky said in North vs South:

                          If the Auckland lockdown continues could this game shift to Wellington or the Tron?

                          If this game goes ahead it's a miracle. Can't see it happening with community transmission

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                          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                            @kiwiinmelb I only mean this game, its a spectacle to start with

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                            @Kiwiwomble said in North vs South:

                            @kiwiinmelb I only mean this game, its a spectacle to start with

                            ok fair enough . picking the Abs the next day ,

                            so im guessing , its a trial of sorts

                            But i might be wrong

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                            • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                              @Kiwiwomble said in North vs South:

                              @kiwiinmelb I only mean this game, its a spectacle to start with

                              ok fair enough . picking the Abs the next day ,

                              so im guessing , its a trial of sorts

                              But i might be wrong

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                              @kiwiinmelb i think if this was really a trial they would have done probables v possibles so they could specifically see people head to head or specific combos, this has to be entertainment as much as anything

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                                i'll be kind of disappointed if the biggest talking points out of the game are is X still world class at 10? yes....is Y still the best option at 9?...yes....so, business as usual then? sure :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

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                                • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                  @kiwiinmelb i think if this was really a trial they would have done probables v possibles so they could specifically see people head to head or specific combos, this has to be entertainment as much as anything

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                                  @Kiwiwomble said in North vs South:

                                  @kiwiinmelb i think if this was really a trial they would have done probables v possibles so they could specifically see people head to head or specific combos, this has to be entertainment as much as anything

                                  It has trial elements cos the ABs coaches get a week with two teams worth to assess them in training. Then they see them in a (hopefully) high intensity game. It will be a trial for those they aren’t decided on, that week will make or break some selections, for sure.

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                                  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                    i'll be kind of disappointed if the biggest talking points out of the game are is X still world class at 10? yes....is Y still the best option at 9?...yes....so, business as usual then? sure :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

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                                    @Kiwiwomble I think it's a combo of ABs trial and an exciting, income generating event. It would be awesome if form was as important a consideration as ABs selection, but I'm not sure that will happen. If they'd select on form, then - for example - they should select Ash Dixon as the starting hooker for North, but I just can't see that happening. He might miss out of selection entirely, because they want Coles and Aumua to play.

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                                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                                      @Kiwiwomble I think it's a combo of ABs trial and an exciting, income generating event. It would be awesome if form was as important a consideration as ABs selection, but I'm not sure that will happen. If they'd select on form, then - for example - they should select Ash Dixon as the starting hooker for North, but I just can't see that happening. He might miss out of selection entirely, because they want Coles and Aumua to play.

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                                      Kiwiwomble
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                                      @Stargazer fair enough

                                      I think this is the one game i wouldn't mind if the "rested" the first string AB's...we know what they can do and will often get selected on reputation/previous form/known ability/experience anyway

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                                      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                        @kiwiinmelb i think if this was really a trial they would have done probables v possibles so they could specifically see people head to head or specific combos, this has to be entertainment as much as anything

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                                        @Kiwiwomble said in North vs South:

                                        @kiwiinmelb i think if this was really a trial they would have done probables v possibles so they could specifically see people head to head or specific combos, this has to be entertainment as much as anything

                                        The squad will probably be close to picked anyway , but it is a chance to have another look at them ,

                                        My point was more , the players that are in their selection frame,I think they will want playing where possible , i dont think there would be any doubt about that, but it also might give them a chance to try things like trying someone in a different position that appeals to them etc

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