North vs South
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@junior said in North vs South:
@Hooroo said in North vs South:
@Tim said in North vs South:
@Machpants This is more important.
How so? This is a nothing game with no meaning to it. Who cares if North or South win?
It's an All Blacks trial, that's why.
Who really gives a toss about Waikato playing Hawkes Bay?
Is it though? If that is the case then why a mickey mouse selection of North and South?
@Hooroo said in North vs South:
@junior said in North vs South:
@Hooroo said in North vs South:
@Tim said in North vs South:
@Machpants This is more important.
How so? This is a nothing game with no meaning to it. Who cares if North or South win?
It's an All Blacks trial, that's why.
Who really gives a toss about Waikato playing Hawkes Bay?
Is it though? If that is the case then why a mickey mouse selection of North and South?
So what would be your selection criteria?
Birth?
3 years residency?
Where a grandparent was born? -
@Hooroo said in North vs South:
@junior said in North vs South:
@Hooroo said in North vs South:
@Tim said in North vs South:
@Machpants This is more important.
How so? This is a nothing game with no meaning to it. Who cares if North or South win?
It's an All Blacks trial, that's why.
Who really gives a toss about Waikato playing Hawkes Bay?
Is it though? If that is the case then why a mickey mouse selection of North and South?
Presumably because it then has some meaning behind it and so it doubles as an attractive product at a time when NZR are trying to get as much revenue as possible. They had sold 30k+ tickets to the fixture before the covid outbreak.
@KiwiMurph said in North vs South:
@Hooroo said in North vs South:
@junior said in North vs South:
@Hooroo said in North vs South:
@Tim said in North vs South:
@Machpants This is more important.
How so? This is a nothing game with no meaning to it. Who cares if North or South win?
It's an All Blacks trial, that's why.
Who really gives a toss about Waikato playing Hawkes Bay?
Is it though? If that is the case then why a mickey mouse selection of North and South?
Presumably because it then has some meaning behind it and so it doubles as an attractive product at a time when NZR are trying to get as much revenue as possible. They had sold 30k+ tickets to the fixture before the covid outbreak.
That's a fair point. It looks as though it would have sold out.
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@Hooroo said in North vs South:
@junior said in North vs South:
@Hooroo said in North vs South:
@Tim said in North vs South:
@Machpants This is more important.
How so? This is a nothing game with no meaning to it. Who cares if North or South win?
It's an All Blacks trial, that's why.
Who really gives a toss about Waikato playing Hawkes Bay?
Is it though? If that is the case then why a mickey mouse selection of North and South?
So what would be your selection criteria?
Birth?
3 years residency?
Where a grandparent was born?@booboo said in North vs South:
@Hooroo said in North vs South:
@junior said in North vs South:
@Hooroo said in North vs South:
@Tim said in North vs South:
@Machpants This is more important.
How so? This is a nothing game with no meaning to it. Who cares if North or South win?
It's an All Blacks trial, that's why.
Who really gives a toss about Waikato playing Hawkes Bay?
Is it though? If that is the case then why a mickey mouse selection of North and South?
So what would be your selection criteria?
Birth?
3 years residency?
Where a grandparent was born?Well I would gear it so that the likes of DMac plays for the south, the Barrets would be in the same team and I'm unsure on Aaron Smith
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@booboo said in North vs South:
@Hooroo said in North vs South:
@junior said in North vs South:
@Hooroo said in North vs South:
@Tim said in North vs South:
@Machpants This is more important.
How so? This is a nothing game with no meaning to it. Who cares if North or South win?
It's an All Blacks trial, that's why.
Who really gives a toss about Waikato playing Hawkes Bay?
Is it though? If that is the case then why a mickey mouse selection of North and South?
So what would be your selection criteria?
Birth?
3 years residency?
Where a grandparent was born?Well I would gear it so that the likes of DMac plays for the south, the Barrets would be in the same team and I'm unsure on Aaron Smith
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Not feeling overly confident with the trio of halfbacks in the South squad.
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Not feeling overly confident with the trio of halfbacks in the South squad.
@ACT-Crusader North missing half their squad from training until Weds, including the one and only 10!
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personally i would have prefered either
A ) Probables v Possibles - if they actually want any trial aspects, they were good, there was always a bit of an underdog vibe for the possibles, will they get one over on the incumbents
B ) final First XV - if this is supposed to be a bit more of a spectical, high schools love bragging about their old boys that have done well, COVID aside, they could have had videos in the lead up of the big names going back to these schools, watch parties, training/team photos in their old jerseys, rivals schools from the same island getting behind the same team or conversely lots of banter about "my school has three in the team where yours only has one" kind of shit
currently....its just this game, which will be great im sure...but it could ave been a bit more
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@ACT-Crusader North missing half their squad from training until Weds, including the one and only 10!
@Machpants BB isn't the one and only 10. They've just hidden Mitch Hunt in the list of the outside backs.
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@Machpants BB isn't the one and only 10. They've just hidden Mitch Hunt in the list of the outside backs.
@Stargazer yeah, RugbyPass made a headline about it on facebook...until everyone point out Hunt...and Dmac...who's played 10 for the AB's...
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Just an aside.
I am (was) looking forward to the match.
A rep match with a bit of parochialism about it.
Regardless of the selection qualification it was/Is still us versus the inbreds. And we'll show them that their precious Saders apparent dominance is built on the back of the size of their cheque book. Ha! Take that you poxy little island at the bottom of the world.
But I digress ...
I think they've pick a good qualifier with first provincial team.
If they'd picked place of birth, current province or current SR franchise we'd hear the same whinging.
Draw a line somewhere and they have.
Good concept especially in this environment.
Much better than a god awful borefest probables v possibles with absolutely nothing on it.
@booboo said in North vs South:
Just an aside.
I am (was) looking forward to the match.
A rep match with a bit of parochialism about it.
Regardless of the selection qualification it was/Is still us versus the inbreds. And we'll show them that their precious Saders apparent dominance is built on the back of the size of their cheque book. Ha! Take that you poxy little island at the bottom of the world.
But I digress ...
I think they've pick a good qualifier with first provincial team.
If they'd picked place of birth, current province or current SR franchise we'd hear the same whinging.
Draw a line somewhere and they have.
Good concept especially in this environment.
Much better than a god awful borefest probables v possibles with absolutely nothing on it.
Now that the Blues seem to be buying their way to title contention I am looking forward these accusations thrown at them too, much like England is now accused of poaching...
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personally i would have prefered either
A ) Probables v Possibles - if they actually want any trial aspects, they were good, there was always a bit of an underdog vibe for the possibles, will they get one over on the incumbents
B ) final First XV - if this is supposed to be a bit more of a spectical, high schools love bragging about their old boys that have done well, COVID aside, they could have had videos in the lead up of the big names going back to these schools, watch parties, training/team photos in their old jerseys, rivals schools from the same island getting behind the same team or conversely lots of banter about "my school has three in the team where yours only has one" kind of shit
currently....its just this game, which will be great im sure...but it could ave been a bit more
@Kiwiwomble said in North vs South:
personally i would have prefered either
A ) Probables v Possibles - if they actually want any trial aspects, they were good, there was always a bit of an underdog vibe for the possibles, will they get one over on the incumbents
B ) final First XV - if this is supposed to be a bit more of a spectical, high schools love bragging about their old boys that have done well, COVID aside, they could have had videos in the lead up of the big names going back to these schools, watch parties, training/team photos in their old jerseys, rivals schools from the same island getting behind the same team or conversely lots of banter about "my school has three in the team where yours only has one" kind of shit
currently....its just this game, which will be great im sure...but it could ave been a bit more
I'd be vehemently against that. That rewards poaching schools. Not that players are often poached from a school from the other Island, but still. It should either be the school which they first played 1st XV for (so the poached school, not the poaching school), or the school they spent most time at for their education.
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@booboo said in North vs South:
@Hooroo based on what?
Loosely, where they are from. I haven't thought about it too hard. I find it weird that DMac is in the North team.
@Hooroo said in North vs South:
Well I would gear it so that the likes of DMac plays for the south, the Barrets would be in the same team and I'm unsure on Aaron Smith
@booboo said in North vs South:
@Hooroo based on what?
@Hooroo said in North vs South:
Loosely, where they are from. I haven't thought about it too hard. I find it weird that DMac is in the North team.
I think that's what @booboo is getting at.
No matter what criteria/cut-off you came up with to define "where they are from" - there's going to be one or two, or more, which "don't seem right", at least to somebody.@Kiwiwomble 's suggestion of final First XV - probably has slightly more meaning, but you'd still have people claiming it is a "Mickey Mouse" criteria, and "such-and-such has spent his entire 20 years professional career in the South, but is playing for the North - ridiculous!"
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@Kiwiwomble said in North vs South:
personally i would have prefered either
A ) Probables v Possibles - if they actually want any trial aspects, they were good, there was always a bit of an underdog vibe for the possibles, will they get one over on the incumbents
B ) final First XV - if this is supposed to be a bit more of a spectical, high schools love bragging about their old boys that have done well, COVID aside, they could have had videos in the lead up of the big names going back to these schools, watch parties, training/team photos in their old jerseys, rivals schools from the same island getting behind the same team or conversely lots of banter about "my school has three in the team where yours only has one" kind of shit
currently....its just this game, which will be great im sure...but it could ave been a bit more
I'd be vehemently against that. That rewards poaching schools. Not that players are often poached from a school from the other Island, but still. It should either be the school which they first played 1st XV for (so the poached school, not the poaching school), or the school they spent most time at for their education.
@Stargazer school where they spent most of their time then i guess, i just suggest final because you're final years would normally be when you shone the most
...not a huge reward though is it and well after the fact...i dont think that would encourage more poaching...to be mentioned a decade after the fact before a one off game
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When I listed a NI and SI team based on 1st XV school Tokolahi was the only player that moved islands, and he isn't in either squad anyway.
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When I listed a NI and SI team based on 1st XV school Tokolahi was the only player that moved islands, and he isn't in either squad anyway.
@Bovidae said in North vs South:
When I listed a NI and SI team based on 1st XV school Tokolahi was the only player that moved islands, and he isn't in either squad anyway.
DMac?
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@Tim said in North vs South:
I think Bovidae means players that moved to a school on a different island.
Yes. Both Cane and DMac, for example, moved schools within the NI and SI, respectively.
Tokolahi went from Sacred Heart (Auckland) to St Bedes (Chch).
