North vs South
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Good to see the Souths rolling maul try included in the highlights :face_with_tears_of_joy:
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@Bones said in North vs South:
@kpkanz said in North vs South:
@Bones said in North vs South:
Don't think Roane or Aoane did themselves any favours today. Reiko had a couple of nice touches though and was still the best 13 on display.
Awesome to see Sotutu step up with ease. What can't he do?
How many pens and fuck ups from Ardie?
DMac is just utter shit.
Nice to see ALB get a little bit of form back.
A Smith didn't have his greatest game.
Ridiculous take
Good chat.
He was involved in 3 of the 5 north tries. Easily one of the norths best today. Amazing how you got 'utter shit' from that.
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@Bones said in North vs South:
@kpkanz said in North vs South:
@Bones said in North vs South:
Don't think Roane or Aoane did themselves any favours today. Reiko had a couple of nice touches though and was still the best 13 on display.
Awesome to see Sotutu step up with ease. What can't he do?
How many pens and fuck ups from Ardie?
DMac is just utter shit.
Nice to see ALB get a little bit of form back.
A Smith didn't have his greatest game.
Ridiculous take
Good chat.
He was involved in 3 of the 5 north tries. Easily one of the norths best today. Amazing how you got 'utter shit' from that.
@kpkanz said in North vs South:
@Bones said in North vs South:
@kpkanz said in North vs South:
@Bones said in North vs South:
Don't think Roane or Aoane did themselves any favours today. Reiko had a couple of nice touches though and was still the best 13 on display.
Awesome to see Sotutu step up with ease. What can't he do?
How many pens and fuck ups from Ardie?
DMac is just utter shit.
Nice to see ALB get a little bit of form back.
A Smith didn't have his greatest game.
Ridiculous take
Good chat.
He was involved in 3 of the 5 north tries. Easily one of the norths best today. Amazing how you got 'utter shit' from that.
Thanks, I'm pretty amazing.
How many times did he meekly turn the ball over or completely destroy any attacking play whilst losing ground? He played exactly the way he's played all year - makes the odd break or two if others put him away, but more often than not runs across field completely killing any of his teammates opportunities.
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DMac over Jordie
@Bones said in North vs South:
DMac over Jordie
For me - yes.
DMac made a number of the Norths attacks and while Jordie was a key player for the South with his kicking and size/strength when attacking, Jordie also had a period in the first half where he made a few mistakes and went quiet for 10 minutes. I'll rewatch later and make a note of when but the South were on attack around the 30 minute mark and there were back-to-back mistakes by Jordie that cost momentum.
My concern around Jordie is that he gives you a try most of the time but costs you a try more often if he hits one of those quiet periods so DMac is a little safe. He has improved this year and I would certainly want to see more of him as a utility back pressing for the starting 15 spot against some teams, but I would take DMac ahead of him on today's game.
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@Bones said in North vs South:
DMac over Jordie
For me - yes.
DMac made a number of the Norths attacks and while Jordie was a key player for the South with his kicking and size/strength when attacking, Jordie also had a period in the first half where he made a few mistakes and went quiet for 10 minutes. I'll rewatch later and make a note of when but the South were on attack around the 30 minute mark and there were back-to-back mistakes by Jordie that cost momentum.
My concern around Jordie is that he gives you a try most of the time but costs you a try more often if he hits one of those quiet periods so DMac is a little safe. He has improved this year and I would certainly want to see more of him as a utility back pressing for the starting 15 spot against some teams, but I would take DMac ahead of him on today's game.
@PecoTrain it's like I'm in reverse world.
Last year I would have agreed with you but this year Jordie has gone from strength to strength and I would say has well and truly shaken off his erratic tag while DMac has gone so far the other way it's not funny.
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@kpkanz said in North vs South:
@Bones said in North vs South:
@kpkanz said in North vs South:
@Bones said in North vs South:
Don't think Roane or Aoane did themselves any favours today. Reiko had a couple of nice touches though and was still the best 13 on display.
Awesome to see Sotutu step up with ease. What can't he do?
How many pens and fuck ups from Ardie?
DMac is just utter shit.
Nice to see ALB get a little bit of form back.
A Smith didn't have his greatest game.
Ridiculous take
Good chat.
He was involved in 3 of the 5 north tries. Easily one of the norths best today. Amazing how you got 'utter shit' from that.
Thanks, I'm pretty amazing.
How many times did he meekly turn the ball over or completely destroy any attacking play whilst losing ground? He played exactly the way he's played all year - makes the odd break or two if others put him away, but more often than not runs across field completely killing any of his teammates opportunities.
@Bones said in North vs South:
Thanks, I'm pretty amazing.
How many times did he meekly turn the ball over or completely destroy any attacking play whilst losing ground? He played exactly the way he's played all year - makes the odd break or two if others put him away, but more often than not runs across field completely killing any of his teammates opportunities.I can genuinely only remember one mistake which was the pass to ground, other than that he was consistently putting other players in open space as well as creating opportunities for himself.
There is clear bias involved here if you think his game today was 'utter shit'. He was easily top 5 on the north team. If he was utter shit today, literally 25/30 other players on the pitch must be abysmal to you.
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@Bones said in North vs South:
Thanks, I'm pretty amazing.
How many times did he meekly turn the ball over or completely destroy any attacking play whilst losing ground? He played exactly the way he's played all year - makes the odd break or two if others put him away, but more often than not runs across field completely killing any of his teammates opportunities.I can genuinely only remember one mistake which was the pass to ground, other than that he was consistently putting other players in open space as well as creating opportunities for himself.
There is clear bias involved here if you think his game today was 'utter shit'. He was easily top 5 on the north team. If he was utter shit today, literally 25/30 other players on the pitch must be abysmal to you.
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@Bones said in North vs South:
@kpkanz
what would that bias be?I can only think of external factors if you watched that game today and thought he was 'utter shit'.
@kpkanz said in North vs South:
@Bones said in North vs South:
@kpkanz
what would that bias be?I can only think of external factors if you watched that game today and thought he was 'utter shit'.
I can only think of clear bias if you watched an experienced AB play like that today and didn't think he was playing utter shit (for him). He runs across field, and unless he's put into space by someone else generally kills the attack. The most obvious one, he had three glaringly better options than running across to the sideline and popping an utter shit pass to no-one. Three! An experienced AB. He chose the fourth utter shit option. At test level, that is what all his less noticeable meanders to nowhere will result in.
But you make a good point, Mitch Hunt might be the safer option.
Oh and welcome aboard!
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Ref poor. Jordie looked great in Superrugby...now he is looking sublime...machine...Another nice tight NZ match
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@kpkanz said in North vs South:
@Bones said in North vs South:
@kpkanz
what would that bias be?I can only think of external factors if you watched that game today and thought he was 'utter shit'.
I can only think of clear bias if you watched an experienced AB play like that today and didn't think he was playing utter shit (for him). He runs across field, and unless he's put into space by someone else generally kills the attack. The most obvious one, he had three glaringly better options than running across to the sideline and popping an utter shit pass to no-one. Three! An experienced AB. He chose the fourth utter shit option. At test level, that is what all his less noticeable meanders to nowhere will result in.
But you make a good point, Mitch Hunt might be the safer option.
Oh and welcome aboard!
@Bones said in North vs South:
@kpkanz said in North vs South:
@Bones said in North vs South:
@kpkanz
what would that bias be?I can only think of external factors if you watched that game today and thought he was 'utter shit'.
I can only think of clear bias if you watched an experienced AB play like that today and didn't think he was playing utter shit (for him). He runs across field, and unless he's put into space by someone else generally kills the attack. The most obvious one, he had three glaringly better options than running across to the sideline and popping an utter shit pass to no-one. Three! An experienced AB. He chose the fourth utter shit option. At test level, that is what all his less noticeable meanders to nowhere will result in.
But you make a good point, Mitch Hunt might be the safer option.
Oh and welcome aboard!
Funny how the most obvious incident was the ONLY incident as well (the same incident you keep bringing up). Almost as if no other mistakes were made by him tonight :face_with_tears_of_joy:
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@Bones said in North vs South:
@kpkanz said in North vs South:
@Bones said in North vs South:
@kpkanz
what would that bias be?I can only think of external factors if you watched that game today and thought he was 'utter shit'.
I can only think of clear bias if you watched an experienced AB play like that today and didn't think he was playing utter shit (for him). He runs across field, and unless he's put into space by someone else generally kills the attack. The most obvious one, he had three glaringly better options than running across to the sideline and popping an utter shit pass to no-one. Three! An experienced AB. He chose the fourth utter shit option. At test level, that is what all his less noticeable meanders to nowhere will result in.
But you make a good point, Mitch Hunt might be the safer option.
Oh and welcome aboard!
Funny how the most obvious incident was the ONLY incident as well (the same incident you keep bringing up). Almost as if no other mistakes were made by him tonight :face_with_tears_of_joy:
@kpkanz said in North vs South:
@Bones said in North vs South:
@kpkanz said in North vs South:
@Bones said in North vs South:
@kpkanz
what would that bias be?I can only think of external factors if you watched that game today and thought he was 'utter shit'.
I can only think of clear bias if you watched an experienced AB play like that today and didn't think he was playing utter shit (for him). He runs across field, and unless he's put into space by someone else generally kills the attack. The most obvious one, he had three glaringly better options than running across to the sideline and popping an utter shit pass to no-one. Three! An experienced AB. He chose the fourth utter shit option. At test level, that is what all his less noticeable meanders to nowhere will result in.
But you make a good point, Mitch Hunt might be the safer option.
Oh and welcome aboard!
Funny how the most obvious incident was the ONLY incident as well (the same incident you keep bringing up). Almost as if no other mistakes were made by him tonight :face_with_tears_of_joy:
Yeah sorry for not going back and citing all the incidents. I'll probably do a rewatch but not immediately after on a Saturday morning.
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@kpkanz said in North vs South:
@Bones said in North vs South:
@kpkanz said in North vs South:
@Bones said in North vs South:
@kpkanz
what would that bias be?I can only think of external factors if you watched that game today and thought he was 'utter shit'.
I can only think of clear bias if you watched an experienced AB play like that today and didn't think he was playing utter shit (for him). He runs across field, and unless he's put into space by someone else generally kills the attack. The most obvious one, he had three glaringly better options than running across to the sideline and popping an utter shit pass to no-one. Three! An experienced AB. He chose the fourth utter shit option. At test level, that is what all his less noticeable meanders to nowhere will result in.
But you make a good point, Mitch Hunt might be the safer option.
Oh and welcome aboard!
Funny how the most obvious incident was the ONLY incident as well (the same incident you keep bringing up). Almost as if no other mistakes were made by him tonight :face_with_tears_of_joy:
Yeah sorry for not going back and citing all the incidents. I'll probably do a rewatch but not immediately after on a Saturday morning.
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Amazing try. Fuck that was awesome from TJP
@No-Quarter said in North vs South:
Amazing try. Fuck that was awesome from TJP
Awesome line to draw defence and create space.
You won't see better.
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So that "much better backrow" from the North - according to some Ferners - wasn't much better after all. Of the starting loosies, Sotutu had a very good game; but - and I'm far from a fan of Sanders - he had a good game as well. Frizell was better than AIoane, but neither really stood out. Savea was underwhelming, while youngster T Christie wasn't bad at all, especially if you take into consideration the huge difference in experience between the two.
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I remember when we used to see Read ranging on the wing, taking contact and popping passes like that....
