Chiefs v Lions
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Stargazer" data-cid="562626" data-time="1457157536"><p>Wow, didn't see that coming. Are the Lions the surprise package of 2016?</p></blockquote>
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They'll have a harder time of it when teams start taking them seriously.<br><br>
But sheer determination gets the Lions over the line. Not the most talented bunch but Ackermann taught them the value of offloading and keeps them going at 110% -
<p>Weber fired up the Chiefs backline when he came on, and they showed some real class in the second half, but that first 40 was dire. I have serious concerns about the Chiefs scrum. They got owned by the Crusaders last week, and same thing happened again. Too many fat marshmallows.</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Donsteppa" data-cid="562740" data-time="1457166717"><p>Trying to decide whether Rennie is increasingly relying on past glories, or whether it's just having too many powerpuffs to choose between in the tight five. :think:</p></blockquote>
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Not giving the Lions enough credit. But yes, Chiefs forwards don't look very efficient. <br><br>
The way their backs were celebrating tries while still trailing didn't say much for determination either.<br><br>
Damian McKenzie, apart from being small, has all the skills to play at a very high level but the arrogance is gonna hold him back. -
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<p>Didn't catch the game but doesn't sound like I missed much. What a shit start to what'll be a fuckin tough next few weeks, with them flying from NZ to SA (which'll at least only be the Kings), then to Argentina and then straight back to NZ.</p>
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<p>Actually Unco you missed a cracker of a game. Doesn't make it bad because the Chiefs lost, that was a bloody good performance by the Lions!</p> -
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<p>Not giving the Lions enough credit. But yes, Chiefs forwards don't look very efficient.<br><br>
The way their backs were celebrating tries while still trailing didn't say much for determination either.<br><br>
Damian McKenzie, apart from being small, has all the skills to play at a very high level <strong>but the arrogance is gonna hold him back.</strong></p>
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<p>Ok I'll play, I like to learn new things</p>
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You don't work as hard as you should. Your game doesn't evolve. Your decision making differs. The list goes on.<br><br>
You can disagree about his attitude though. Maybe I'm reading it all wrong and he's the first one at practice and the last one to leave. I'm just going by the little I've seen of him on the field. -
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<p>How does it hold anyone back?<br><br>
You don't work as hard as you should. Your game doesn't evolve. Your decision making differs. The list goes on.<br><br>
You can disagree about his attitude though. Maybe I'm reading it all wrong and he's the first one at practice and the last one to leave. I'm just going by the little I've seen of him on the field.</p>
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<p>Agree... but that's not McKenzie. Do you even know the first thing about him off the field?</p> -
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Damian McKenzie, apart from being small, has all the skills to play at a very high level but the arrogance is gonna hold him back.</p>
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<p>What arrogance?</p> -
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="bbarcs" data-cid="562754" data-time="1457170905"><p>
How does it hold anyone back?<br><br>
You don't work as hard as you should. Your game doesn't evolve. Your decision making differs. The list goes on.<br><br>
You can disagree about his attitude though. Maybe I'm reading it all wrong and he's the first one at practice and the last one to leave. I'm just going by the little I've seen of him on the field.</p></blockquote>
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He smiles when he's shooting for goal? -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="booboo" data-cid="562832" data-time="1457230453"><p>He smiles when he's shooting for goal?</p></blockquote>
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<p>The smile is weird but I'm more referring to his OTT celebration when scoring. Way he went off you'd have thought they'd just won a title.</p>
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<p>I seem to recall Breyton Paulse doing some impressive post try celebrations, but I've never thought he came across as arrogant because of them.</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="562889" data-time="1457251206"><p>I seem to recall Breyton Paulse doing some impressive post try celebrations, but I've never thought he came across as arrogant because of them.<br><br>
Each to thier own.</p></blockquote>
But hey Habana was ever the stern, humble player on the field, same with Matfield and especially Botha. Not some of the most arrogant fellas around at all, they would've been shit otherwise. I mean, who was that git who raced a cheetah? Never heard from him again.
